| Sunderland having a dream season 19:36 - Nov 8 with 1997 views | bournemouthblue |
fair play to them, their recruitment has been exceptional
Their manager is defensively very astute [Post edited 8 Nov 19:48]
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:39 - Nov 8 with 1799 views | Dubtractor |
Excellent performance from them tonight.
They decided to gamble on the higher risk (salaries) recruitment, but it's paying off big time. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:44 - Nov 8 with 1752 views | Illinoisblue |
Having a dream season. Proper club. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:50 - Nov 8 with 1710 views | bournemouthblue |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:39 - Nov 8 by Dubtractor |
Excellent performance from them tonight.
They decided to gamble on the higher risk (salaries) recruitment, but it's paying off big time. |
It certainly is, wasn't Ashton saying he didn't want to do that despite us paying about £130 million?
I do think if we go up with the current squad, we are at least in a better place to kick on. We would go up with more solid foundations of a squad | |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:54 - Nov 8 with 1668 views | Garv |
You could feel their equalizer was coming. They just had a good atmosphere around them tonight and probably all season.
Always felt their home advantage could be massive this season. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 20:44 - Nov 8 with 1553 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Doing an Ipswich 2001 |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 20:46 - Nov 8 with 1542 views | Churchman |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 20:44 - Nov 8 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Doing an Ipswich 2001 |
It reminds me of that a lot.
Well done them. I’m so pleased for a couple of chums of mine.
Edit: one of them is seriously unwell. If they make it to Champions League or Europe I’ll be over the moon for him. Yes, some things are more important than football, but if your team gives you smiles, it can only help. [Post edited 8 Nov 23:47]
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 20:54 - Nov 8 with 1496 views | ITFCson |
I’m not surprised they are thriving. They bought a lot of players but players with real proven pedigree. They were heavy odds on favorites to get relegated - madness |  | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 21:05 - Nov 8 with 1453 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
If we go up this season, we really need to get in 2-3 really good signings like they have done with the likes of Xhaka. A different level of signing to Phillips which was always going to be a gamble. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 21:20 - Nov 8 with 1417 views | GlasgowBlue |
He who dares Rodders. He who dares. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 21:28 - Nov 8 with 1389 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 21:05 - Nov 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If we go up this season, we really need to get in 2-3 really good signings like they have done with the likes of Xhaka. A different level of signing to Phillips which was always going to be a gamble. |
Gonna need more than 2/3. Only really Isidor Hume Ballard and Le Fee (who shouldn’t have been in the championship anyway) who played for them last season.
The pedigree of player they have signed is remarkable really. Players who wouldn’t look out of place in the traditional top 6/8 teams. Superb recruitment. [Post edited 8 Nov 21:29]
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 21:44 - Nov 8 with 1330 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 21:05 - Nov 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If we go up this season, we really need to get in 2-3 really good signings like they have done with the likes of Xhaka. A different level of signing to Phillips which was always going to be a gamble. |
Two or three?
New keeper
right back
centreback
2 midfielders
two forwards
at least.
Of those we think can cut it in the premier league:
Davis defensive frailties were exposed
Philogene and Clarke found the Premier League hard going
I'd say a minimum of thirteen signings. | |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:02 - Nov 8 with 1287 views | Bigalhunter |
They’ve recruited brilliantly in just about every area with a combination of flair and big fit running units.
Everything that undid us last season.
Granit Xhaka is both a coup and a master stroke.
KM will be acutely aware of our deficiencies last time round, hopefully he can reign Ashton in a bit if we manage to get back up this season. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:07 - Nov 8 with 1272 views | jas0999 |
Considering how much we paid McKenna last season - puts it in perspective. Nine straight home defeats for us - hammered by Arsenal. | | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:52 - Nov 8 with 1185 views | bournemouthblue |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:02 - Nov 8 by Bigalhunter |
They’ve recruited brilliantly in just about every area with a combination of flair and big fit running units.
Everything that undid us last season.
Granit Xhaka is both a coup and a master stroke.
KM will be acutely aware of our deficiencies last time round, hopefully he can reign Ashton in a bit if we manage to get back up this season. |
You do hope we have learned from that first experience | |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 23:23 - Nov 8 with 1134 views | strikalite |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:02 - Nov 8 by Bigalhunter |
They’ve recruited brilliantly in just about every area with a combination of flair and big fit running units.
Everything that undid us last season.
Granit Xhaka is both a coup and a master stroke.
KM will be acutely aware of our deficiencies last time round, hopefully he can reign Ashton in a bit if we manage to get back up this season. |
Agree, we gambled on Phillips hoping he'd turn back into the player that City paid big bucks for...him at his best could have made a difference, Muric too, who is now showing us what Burnley fans were saying about him, hindsight and all that... |  | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 00:02 - Nov 9 with 1066 views | Churchman |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:02 - Nov 8 by Bigalhunter |
They’ve recruited brilliantly in just about every area with a combination of flair and big fit running units.
Everything that undid us last season.
Granit Xhaka is both a coup and a master stroke.
KM will be acutely aware of our deficiencies last time round, hopefully he can reign Ashton in a bit if we manage to get back up this season. |
McKenna approves the signings. They’ve explained the process. You either take their word or the Bristol City monobrow knuckle draggers word on ‘Ashton signings’ which I suspect you are alluding to. Up to you. If it’s the latter, write to Ashton and let us know the response because if that’s the case, they both lied. I don’t do liars.
To the point, Phillips was a total disaster. A really poor gamble - with the gift of hindsight. Cajuste didn’t do much which essentially left us no midfield, given Luongo’s stage in his career and Morsy’s too (I’d still bring Sam back in Jan. Great leader).
Sunderland have recruited in a different way to us and it’s going to be more successful. I suspect the managers knowledge helped, but I don’t know.
But given the resale of the £150m invested isn’t great they took a gamble. It’s paid off. Well done them! You won’t find many clubs that have gone even close since a certain East Anglian team did something similar in 2000/01, but the gap was a lot less then and we had a team and way of playing that always gave us a chance.
Anyway, it’s a rare event and no benchmark. [Post edited 9 Nov 0:03]
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 06:32 - Nov 9 with 913 views | ernie |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:50 - Nov 8 by bournemouthblue |
It certainly is, wasn't Ashton saying he didn't want to do that despite us paying about £130 million?
I do think if we go up with the current squad, we are at least in a better place to kick on. We would go up with more solid foundations of a squad |
If we go up again this season very few of the current squad would survive the cut again. It’s the way it has to be. | | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 07:21 - Nov 9 with 836 views | cressi |
They did what others and myself have said got some French/African players big strong athletes who can also play a bit. Regards Xkaka difference to Phillips not been injury prone and still playing internationally a modern day John Wark in terms of longevity. | | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 12:37 - Nov 9 with 665 views | Facefacts |
This thread is missing a Dark Horse comment/unload about KM, MA and why it won't be any different (to last time) if we get back to the 'brutal' Premier League, unless we can upgrade the club management structure and find an overseas manager as good as Monsieur Le Bris.
But TWTDers hounded him off their site.
Sunderland and Arsenal was a great watch on MotD, even Alan Shearer praising Sunderland's performance. Arsenal fan Theo Walcott not quite so much. |  | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 12:47 - Nov 9 with 645 views | Benters |
Just watched the highlights fair play to them. |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 13:01 - Nov 9 with 606 views | Hciwspi |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 20:46 - Nov 8 by Churchman |
It reminds me of that a lot.
Well done them. I’m so pleased for a couple of chums of mine.
Edit: one of them is seriously unwell. If they make it to Champions League or Europe I’ll be over the moon for him. Yes, some things are more important than football, but if your team gives you smiles, it can only help. [Post edited 8 Nov 23:47]
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Apologies. Accidental down arrow. Thought I’d given you an uppie ☹️ |  | | |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 13:22 - Nov 9 with 573 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 06:32 - Nov 9 by ernie |
If we go up again this season very few of the current squad would survive the cut again. It’s the way it has to be. |
Pretty much agree. But the difference is most of this team could be back ups for the prem. At least to some extent. Egeli, matusiwa, Clarke, philogene, o Shea, Davis, wouldn't necessarily be amazing players to keep us up in the prem, but as back up Vs the like of AAH, harry Clarke, luongo, and let's face it the likes of Woolf, Townsend and even Chaplin as much as we love them, strength in depth would be night and day if we did replace the vast majority of the first team next time round.
That was a huge problem last time after going up twice. Realistically we needed 15 up to speed full first team squad players. On the pitch and bench. Next time we'd need a 'mere' 10 or so!! [Post edited 9 Nov 13:25]
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 13:35 - Nov 9 with 541 views | Vic |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 22:52 - Nov 8 by bournemouthblue |
You do hope we have learned from that first experience |
I think we will have - just as other teams (like Sunderland) will have looked at us and thought ‘We ain’t doing that’! |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 13:44 - Nov 9 with 524 views | MVBlue |
| Sunderland having a dream season on 19:54 - Nov 8 by Garv |
You could feel their equalizer was coming. They just had a good atmosphere around them tonight and probably all season.
Always felt their home advantage could be massive this season. |
They didn't play Liverpool and Man City first 2 games.
Their big number 40'000 fans are always noisy and raucus for home games
Big name signing, They Got Granit Xhaka we got Kalvin Phillips
Good on them, they had a bit longer in Championship, and that was after their terrible seasons and players sitting on contracts as shown on 'Sunderland Til I Die'. back in 2019/2020 |  |
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| Sunderland having a dream season on 14:11 - Nov 9 with 475 views | andytown |
They’ve also got someone looking at anything possible to get an advantage. Moved the advertisement boards closer to the pitch yesterday to stop the long throw run ups. | | | |
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