| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here 08:57 - Nov 23 with 5945 views | Dubtractor |
Yesterday wasn't great, certainly not as a spectacle, and we really need to do better against that sort of team at home but.....
It was a 0-0 draw, not a defeat, and comes on the back of 10 points from the last 12. We controlled the game from start to finish (granted without a cutting edge), and ensured that we didn't do a Charlton and give them soft goals to nick the game.
Criticism of the performance yesterday is reasonable as we need to be better, but some of the comments on here last night, off the back of a run of 3 wins and 2 draws in the last 5 games, just seem a bit OTT.
Seems like there are a decent chunk of our fanbase who can't wait to jump on the negatives, just as (being balanced) there are some who are so positive as to almost feel blind to some of the issues that we are still solving.
Just think a bit more patience needs to be shown in terms of the bigger picture, when the general direction of travel seems to be in the right direction. |  |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 12:49 - Nov 23 with 716 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 12:41 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
I disagree with this, yes you're right that the likes of Philogene are there for moments of magic and we especially need that when faced with a defensive wall BUT it's not the case that if somebody doesn't score a worldie that you have to accept a draw or loss.
You can set up with your best technical players who are comfortable controlling and keeping the ball under pressure, and are quick thinkers and able to move the ball quickly. Play them together and create some understanding so that the play is not constantly predicatble and first touch football develops. Start to pull teams around when you're successfully able to retain possession near their box and gaps appear. Use a forward who is constantly on the shoulder looking to run in behind to worry the defenders and keep them penned back.
Or, heaven forbid, get a Kieffer Moore type who thrives on crosses and use your talented wingers to get to the byline and put crosses in. Maybe even, put 2 of these players up front to increase the threat attacking crosses. If this doesn't work then play cut backs instead and work on flooding the box with midfielders arriving late.
But we focus on getting wingers to cut inside and cross into a box with a set defence to an isolated forward against 3 defenders. As well as playing forward players like Akpom who yes have pace and power but technically poor and need about 10 touches to get the ball under control.
We have the personnel to be effective in these scenarios but the tactics and team selection are all wrong. And frankly the summer recruitment and decisions made didn't help the situation [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 12:44]
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We scored 9 goals in our last 3 games before yesterday. Once again you're basing everything on one game, the one that's just happened, and then extrapolating all our 'problems' from it. Almost like you have a terrible memory or the other games didn't happen.
Teams will low block against us. Sometimes we'll be able to break them down and sometimes we won't. We were a McAteer sitter away from yesterdays game being another where we were able to break them down. It's as simple as that.
Funnily enough, I don't see you disecting games in such forensic detail when we win. |  |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:01 - Nov 23 with 704 views | Dubtractor |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 12:41 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
I disagree with this, yes you're right that the likes of Philogene are there for moments of magic and we especially need that when faced with a defensive wall BUT it's not the case that if somebody doesn't score a worldie that you have to accept a draw or loss.
You can set up with your best technical players who are comfortable controlling and keeping the ball under pressure, and are quick thinkers and able to move the ball quickly. Play them together and create some understanding so that the play is not constantly predicatble and first touch football develops. Start to pull teams around when you're successfully able to retain possession near their box and gaps appear. Use a forward who is constantly on the shoulder looking to run in behind to worry the defenders and keep them penned back.
Or, heaven forbid, get a Kieffer Moore type who thrives on crosses and use your talented wingers to get to the byline and put crosses in. Maybe even, put 2 of these players up front to increase the threat attacking crosses. If this doesn't work then play cut backs instead and work on flooding the box with midfielders arriving late.
But we focus on getting wingers to cut inside and cross into a box with a set defence to an isolated forward against 3 defenders. As well as playing forward players like Akpom who yes have pace and power but technically poor and need about 10 touches to get the ball under control.
We have the personnel to be effective in these scenarios but the tactics and team selection are all wrong. And frankly the summer recruitment and decisions made didn't help the situation [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 12:44]
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"BUT it's not the case that if somebody doesn't score a worldie that you have to accept a draw or loss."
I didn't suggest that was the case at all, nor that you need a worldie, but it is the case that we aren't going to create lots of great chances. It's about finding a way to win, whether that's a worldie or a deflection or whatever it needs. Having those flair players gives you one of those options, as we've seen. | |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:25 - Nov 23 with 665 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 12:49 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We scored 9 goals in our last 3 games before yesterday. Once again you're basing everything on one game, the one that's just happened, and then extrapolating all our 'problems' from it. Almost like you have a terrible memory or the other games didn't happen.
Teams will low block against us. Sometimes we'll be able to break them down and sometimes we won't. We were a McAteer sitter away from yesterdays game being another where we were able to break them down. It's as simple as that.
Funnily enough, I don't see you disecting games in such forensic detail when we win. |
No, I'm really not basing everything on one game. It's a constant pattern that we struggle to create chances and break down teams in these types of games. As im sure you full well know.
We scored 8 goals in 2 away games when not facing a low block so that argument holds no water. We're not debating games where the other team actually tries to attack. We know Kierans system works there.
Your comment 'teams will low block against us. Sometimes we will break them down and sometimes we wont' is just pathetic I'm afraid. As is the attempts to censor discussion about it. No, let's not try to overcome the problem by adapting let's just accept it's how it is, keep doing the same failed plan and continue to drop points all season. Which will actually encourage even more teams to adopt this approach because they see it works. |  | | |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:27 - Nov 23 with 661 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:01 - Nov 23 by Dubtractor |
"BUT it's not the case that if somebody doesn't score a worldie that you have to accept a draw or loss."
I didn't suggest that was the case at all, nor that you need a worldie, but it is the case that we aren't going to create lots of great chances. It's about finding a way to win, whether that's a worldie or a deflection or whatever it needs. Having those flair players gives you one of those options, as we've seen. |
Yes I do agree and accept that when you're facing an ultra defensive side naturally you create fewer chances (hopefully concede fewer too) and a player who is able to conjure something out of nothing is very welcome in that situation but we appear to have little effective plan oto create good chances other than said moment of magic which is not sustainable. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 13:28]
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:29 - Nov 23 with 657 views | Herbivore |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 12:41 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
I disagree with this, yes you're right that the likes of Philogene are there for moments of magic and we especially need that when faced with a defensive wall BUT it's not the case that if somebody doesn't score a worldie that you have to accept a draw or loss.
You can set up with your best technical players who are comfortable controlling and keeping the ball under pressure, and are quick thinkers and able to move the ball quickly. Play them together and create some understanding so that the play is not constantly predicatble and first touch football develops. Start to pull teams around when you're successfully able to retain possession near their box and gaps appear. Use a forward who is constantly on the shoulder looking to run in behind to worry the defenders and keep them penned back.
Or, heaven forbid, get a Kieffer Moore type who thrives on crosses and use your talented wingers to get to the byline and put crosses in. Maybe even, put 2 of these players up front to increase the threat attacking crosses. If this doesn't work then play cut backs instead and work on flooding the box with midfielders arriving late.
But we focus on getting wingers to cut inside and cross into a box with a set defence to an isolated forward against 3 defenders. As well as playing forward players like Akpom who yes have pace and power but technically poor and need about 10 touches to get the ball under control.
We have the personnel to be effective in these scenarios but the tactics and team selection are all wrong. And frankly the summer recruitment and decisions made didn't help the situation [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 12:44]
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If only we had you, a Leicester fan, in charge of the team rather than one of the best young managers in England. |  |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:34 - Nov 23 with 642 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:29 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
If only we had you, a Leicester fan, in charge of the team rather than one of the best young managers in England. |
I agree with regards KM. He hasn't become a bad manager overnight. However it would be nice if he started to show it this season.
Ps your comment is not just boring and unconstructive, but also predictable - in keeping with most of your contributions on here I guess. | | | |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:51 - Nov 23 with 616 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:25 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
No, I'm really not basing everything on one game. It's a constant pattern that we struggle to create chances and break down teams in these types of games. As im sure you full well know.
We scored 8 goals in 2 away games when not facing a low block so that argument holds no water. We're not debating games where the other team actually tries to attack. We know Kierans system works there.
Your comment 'teams will low block against us. Sometimes we will break them down and sometimes we wont' is just pathetic I'm afraid. As is the attempts to censor discussion about it. No, let's not try to overcome the problem by adapting let's just accept it's how it is, keep doing the same failed plan and continue to drop points all season. Which will actually encourage even more teams to adopt this approach because they see it works. |
Yesterday we created chances, as we have in most games recently, we just didn't take them yesterday.
A beneficial discussion requires a modicum of facts to it. |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 14:03 - Nov 23 with 610 views | TheBoyBlue |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 11:11 - Nov 23 by Kieran_Knows |
I find Portman Road itself unbearable at the moment. Every minor mishap is greeted with the players either being ‘fcuking useless’ or, ‘no b0ll0x’ or just about any expletive going. The ‘get it forward’ brigade, who are either thick, or just haven’t watched us for 4 years and know that’s just not the way we play - and which has also bought us so much success.
Away games are far better and enjoyable at the moment. |
Yep. And absolute silence when we do put a good passage of play together. In the first half of the first half there were were some absolutely wonderful pinpoint long passes and pressure being put on. Barely a shrug of the shoulder from the fans around me in the West Stand, let alone any kind of positive appreciative reaction. First time a pass goes astray they're all up in howls of protest and disapproval.
That's not to say what was on the pitch was particularly exciting, it was far too slow and predictable at times, but the atmosphere went very flat very quickly. | |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 14:12 - Nov 23 with 597 views | SmithersJones |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:51 - Nov 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Yesterday we created chances, as we have in most games recently, we just didn't take them yesterday.
A beneficial discussion requires a modicum of facts to it. |
Fully agree. Games get rewritten based on goals. Yesterday reminded me a lot of the West Brom game. The major difference of course being that against West Brom Clarke sticks one in near the end whereas yesterday McAteer misses. But neither instance changes what went on before. Of course it’s all about winning, three points etc etc but there’s a lot of post event rationalisation going on here. | | | |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 14:43 - Nov 23 with 569 views | Herbivore |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:34 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
I agree with regards KM. He hasn't become a bad manager overnight. However it would be nice if he started to show it this season.
Ps your comment is not just boring and unconstructive, but also predictable - in keeping with most of your contributions on here I guess. |
When you come on another team's forum and offer little other than relentless negativity you don't really deserve much more than repetitive pointing out that you're a Leicester fan who doesn't really understand what's going on at Portman Road. | |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 14:49 - Nov 23 with 552 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:25 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
No, I'm really not basing everything on one game. It's a constant pattern that we struggle to create chances and break down teams in these types of games. As im sure you full well know.
We scored 8 goals in 2 away games when not facing a low block so that argument holds no water. We're not debating games where the other team actually tries to attack. We know Kierans system works there.
Your comment 'teams will low block against us. Sometimes we will break them down and sometimes we wont' is just pathetic I'm afraid. As is the attempts to censor discussion about it. No, let's not try to overcome the problem by adapting let's just accept it's how it is, keep doing the same failed plan and continue to drop points all season. Which will actually encourage even more teams to adopt this approach because they see it works. |
I've not remotely censored anything, I'm just offering my opinion. And saying "Sometimes we will break them down and sometimes we wont" is just stating a fact and not remotely suggesting we shouldn't try to overcome the problem.
As I've said, McAteer's sitter goes in and you wouldn't even be here. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 14:51 - Nov 23 with 552 views | AVJones |
All very balanced, as are most of the comments.
I have a slightly different view. I just find a lot of our play rather boring.
The excitement is not there. It looks to me like systems and processes and playbooks.
And I don’t mean just yesterday, it’s my general feeling on the season so far.
Two seasons ago we seemed to play with a smile on our face, full of gusto, risk taking, always going for it. That’s not what it feels like now.
Vibes, rather than facts? Possibly. But I’m not feeling the fun. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 14:52]
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 14:55 - Nov 23 with 529 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 13:27 - Nov 23 by BouncebackIpswich |
Yes I do agree and accept that when you're facing an ultra defensive side naturally you create fewer chances (hopefully concede fewer too) and a player who is able to conjure something out of nothing is very welcome in that situation but we appear to have little effective plan oto create good chances other than said moment of magic which is not sustainable. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 13:28]
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We did create good chances yesterday. | |
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| 63% poss; 1.69 XG; 19 shots; 8 on target; 2 big chances; 5 corners on 14:59 - Nov 23 with 513 views | unstableblue |
Just needed someone to grab a chance - Akpom, Egeli, McAteer
We need Jack Clarke in the team. |  |
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| As I noted yesterday…. on 15:00 - Nov 23 with 509 views | Dubtractor |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 14:55 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We did create good chances yesterday. |
Not sure I agree that we created 'good' chances, but we definitely created enough openings and half chances that we should have scored from at least one of them. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 15:00 - Nov 23 with 509 views | billlm |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:33 - Nov 23 by MattinLondon |
In isolation nil-nils like yesterday happen - sometimes a team simply fails to take their chances. But yesterday’s match, in context of so many, follows a pattern of slow ponderous play with the imagination and flair of Baldrick’s poetry. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:34]
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Agree, We have good players but soon slow,
If we seed up the play most teams would struggle to know where the ball is,
It is our major flaw slow football gives the opponent every chance, |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 15:17 - Nov 23 with 471 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:26 - Nov 23 by Churchman |
The relegation squad tore itself down. Morsy saw an opportunity and took it, Delap and Hutchinson wanted out to the point where one refused to play. Burns has been injured, nobody is mentioning Burgess because he was poor the other week and Woolfenden can’t get in the team. Cajuste (who I don’t rate) is still with the club, Luongo all but retired, Phillips was a disaster, Tuanzebe wanted Prem football.
I’d like us to have retained Chaplin and Broadhead, if they wanted to stay. Davis, Hirst, Walton, Palmer and Burns are still with us. O’Shea, and Greaves are, but they’re loathed by many so don’t count.
There was far more change than I’d have liked, but some of it was unavoidable. Are we under achieving? Obviously, but since when was sport an exact science? As for the owners, they seem far more patient than the supporters. Many on here want McKenna out ASAP. I don’t. Not because he’s the best manager I’ve ever seen, but because it’s clear what he and the club are trying to do, unlike most clubs, and he’s a good fit.
If we fail this year, it’ll be under achieving by a long way. Everyone knows that, but like KMs promotion team, I suspect it’ll do a lot better next season.
As it goes, KM has already picked up on lack of support by the fans and I think he will go when the right opportunity comes his way, probably before the seasons end. Much of the forum will be overjoyed and be all slapped @rse faced with excitement for a new manager.
I won’t be. BCWYWF
Edit: spot on OP btw. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:26]
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It of hyperbole in there.
Luongo was playing regularly for Milwall before getting injured
The crowd have largely been supportive and patient.
O'Shea isn't loathed.
We have spent shed loads of cash and the sum is still way less than the parts |  | | |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 15:19 - Nov 23 with 468 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 15:00 - Nov 23 by Dubtractor |
Not sure I agree that we created 'good' chances, but we definitely created enough openings and half chances that we should have scored from at least one of them. |
Depends how you define a good chance. I'd say Akpom's one on one with the keeper and McAteer's were exceptional chances. Akpom's long run (blocked), Egeli's just over effort, a couple of Philogene's saved... I'd say all of those were pretty good chances. | |
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| 63% poss; 1.69 XG; 19 shots; 8 on target; 2 big chances; 5 corners on 15:23 - Nov 23 with 448 views | Blue_Heath |
| 63% poss; 1.69 XG; 19 shots; 8 on target; 2 big chances; 5 corners on 14:59 - Nov 23 by unstableblue |
Just needed someone to grab a chance - Akpom, Egeli, McAteer
We need Jack Clarke in the team. |
Agree, try Egeli at 10 Clarke and Philly on the wings. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 15:38 - Nov 23 with 418 views | Pique |
Completely agree with the OP.
There's such a long way to go. It's the same Championship it always is, incredibly tight. Six points currently separate 2nd and 10th. Anyone that puts three or four wins together is going to be right up there in no time.
And we have a game in hand. I know that's doing a lot of heavy lifting at the moment, but I fancy us to win it under normal circumstances, especially following the QPR and Swansea results.
And let's not forget, while a win at Ewood Park would take us third, even scraping a draw will put us in sixth place. We're really not that far off it.
I do think it's time to stop playing Akpom as a 10 though... |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 15:40 - Nov 23 with 408 views | backwaywhen |
Spot on ….too many bedwetters . | | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 15:55 - Nov 23 with 388 views | itfcsuth |
0-0 like yesterday can happen in a season, we had them in 23-24, the performances levels across the 15 games so far have been miles away though more often than not.
We look like a side without cohesion and consistency., and more often than not we look like a side lacking quality in key areas.
13 points off the pace setters after 15 games is really poor, you’d have thought we’d have want to be right up there with them.
Long way to go this season, but also so much work to do to build KMc 2.0 team. |  | | |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 16:23 - Nov 23 with 374 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 14:43 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
When you come on another team's forum and offer little other than relentless negativity you don't really deserve much more than repetitive pointing out that you're a Leicester fan who doesn't really understand what's going on at Portman Road. |
Well at least I offer a viewpoint and discuss the football as you're supposed to on a football forum, instead of spending all my time in here adding nothing to discussions other than petty sneering comments at others and holding grudges against people who see things differently to you. Im just glad your ilk (see also the Flashing Smile) is a minority and most people on here are reasonable and willing to discuss the good and the bad. Which I am too despite your bs about 'relentless negativity'. When KM sorts out the many problems this team are currently suffering, and I have faith he eventually will, then I'll be just as delighted as everyone else. But as things stands we risk blowing a position of superiority and I'll continue to call it as I see it. | | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 16:29 - Nov 23 with 356 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 15:55 - Nov 23 by itfcsuth |
0-0 like yesterday can happen in a season, we had them in 23-24, the performances levels across the 15 games so far have been miles away though more often than not.
We look like a side without cohesion and consistency., and more often than not we look like a side lacking quality in key areas.
13 points off the pace setters after 15 games is really poor, you’d have thought we’d have want to be right up there with them.
Long way to go this season, but also so much work to do to build KMc 2.0 team. |
We had a slow start, due in no small part to a huge turnover of players. We're unbeaten in 5 and scored 9 in the three games before yesterday. That doesn't suggest "more often than not we look like a side lacking quality in key areas." | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 16:33 - Nov 23 with 348 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I think that’s very fair but I also do think there’s a bit of a worrying trend at home against very average teams. |  |
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