| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? 07:07 - Nov 27 with 2582 views | SitfcB |
Yes please
https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/25651809.norwich-v-ipswich-match-april-moved-frida
ITFC not keen though apparently…
Engineering works on the line between Norwich and Ipswich mean the next East Anglian derby could be switched to a Friday night, sparking fears of trouble on the city streets.
Norfolk police have approached the two clubs and the football league about potentially moving the Carrow Road fixture to the evening of April 10, rather than the following afternoon as currently scheduled.
The prospect of an evening kick off has triggered concerns it could lead to more disorder, as fans would have longer to drink beforehand, while officers will also have to deal with usual Friday night activities in the city centre.
Talks between the clubs, the police and the football league are under way.
The derby is currently due to be played at 3pm on Saturday April 11, but the often fiery fixture has regularly been switched to 12pm on a Sunday to head off disorder.
However, with Network Rail due to be carrying out engineering work on the railway line between Norwich and Ipswich that weekend, it is understood that police are worried that, with train services disrupted, more fans will arrive by car - making it harder to marshal them.
Norfolk Constabulary has approached the clubs and the EFL about moving the match and it is understood one of the options is for an evening kick-off on Friday, April 10, when trains will be available.
A police spokeswoman said: “We're having ongoing conversations with all partners to explore the options available.”
Network Rail did not respond to a request for a comment, but a spokesman for Greater Anglia, which runs the trains, said: "We are aware of the gameweek when this match is scheduled and will ensure we work closely with all stakeholders involved when preparing."
Norwich City and their Suffolk rivals have not commented publicly.
But it is understood Ipswich Town Football Club is keen for the game to be played at the weekend, rather than on the Friday night - and officials are making representations about how to achieve that.
However, the prospect of a Friday night kick-off next April has raised eyebrows, given the often volatile nature of the fixture and the ground's proximity to Norwich's busy night-time district of Prince of Wales Road.
People living in the area are worried that fans from both clubs could take the Friday afternoon off and start drinking hours before kick-off.
When the two sides last met at Carrow Road - which had a 12.30pm kick-off on Saturday, April 6 and ended in a 1-0 win for the Canaries - there were ugly scenes as rival fans confronted each other.
Seventeen people were arrested over violent disorder which broke out in roads near Carrow Road and some supporters were given jail sentences.
Previous years have also seen trouble and arrests before and after games between the two sides.
During a derby match at Ipswich's Portman Road in December last year, chants of "scum" were directed at Norwich City's then joint majority shareholder Delia Smith, with a can of lager thrown at her car.
The animosity could be even fiercer this year, with Norwich City currently facing a fight against relegation and their bitter rivals chasing a return to the Premier League.
Norwich City's controversial sale of Marcelino Nunez, who scored the winner against Ipswich the last time the sides met at Carrow Road, to the Tractor Boys has also upped the ante.
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 07:17 - Nov 27 with 2129 views | Zx1988 |
I assume the club's objections are from an atmosphere perspective, rather than anything else?
If there was talk of the home derby being played on a Friday night, I assume Ashton and McKenna would be all for it. |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:02 - Nov 27 with 1928 views | victorysquad |
I think the real elephant in the room is how many hours is it possible to sing "he's in your head" before people start to suffer from:
- voice fatigue
- limitations in vocal range
- voice breaking or cracking
- changes in vocal quality
- projection difficulties | |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:06 - Nov 27 with 1895 views | southnorfolkblue |
I'd be really surprised if the Police agreed to this. It would be carnage | |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:11 - Nov 27 with 1871 views | Keno |
when its says "Talks between the clubs, the police and the football league are under way." isnt there another group of people who should be included in that? |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:20 - Nov 27 with 1819 views | noggin |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:06 - Nov 27 by southnorfolkblue |
I'd be really surprised if the Police agreed to this. It would be carnage |
No it wouldn't. There would be a handful of chavy idiots, from both sides, who can't behave themselves, as always. |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:23 - Nov 27 with 1781 views | DJR |
Coming from Kent, this is not great news for me.
Perhaps efforts should be made to get Greater Anglia to shift the dates of their works, or at least not carry them out on the Saturday. After all, there have been much fewer works on the line to Ipswich so far this season compared to recent seasons. |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:24 - Nov 27 with 1768 views | Edmundo |
Would be awesome. Especially if Nacho bangs in a 5th at the end. |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:25 - Nov 27 with 1772 views | Bobbychase |
During a derby match at Ipswich's Portman Road in December last year, chants of "scum" were directed at Norwich City's then joint majority shareholder Delia Smith, with a can of lager thrown at her car after she chose to ignore police advice when offered a safe route into the stadium area and instead decided to drive through thousands of Ipswich fans who had just welcomed their team coach. Some at the scene said her driver used his vehicle to nudge Town fans out of the road.
Fixed it |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:38 - Nov 27 with 1647 views | EJP |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:23 - Nov 27 by DJR |
Coming from Kent, this is not great news for me.
Perhaps efforts should be made to get Greater Anglia to shift the dates of their works, or at least not carry them out on the Saturday. After all, there have been much fewer works on the line to Ipswich so far this season compared to recent seasons. |
It's not Greater Anglia, it's Network Rail, and they're planned months in advance. It's not as simple as postponing a weekend as it causes a knock-on effect to the other works. |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:42 - Nov 27 with 1620 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 07:17 - Nov 27 by Zx1988 |
I assume the club's objections are from an atmosphere perspective, rather than anything else?
If there was talk of the home derby being played on a Friday night, I assume Ashton and McKenna would be all for it. |
Would’ve thought so, probably becomes a tougher proposition than Saturday lunchtime at that morgue. |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:07 - Nov 27 with 1457 views | SitfcB |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:06 - Nov 27 by southnorfolkblue |
I'd be really surprised if the Police agreed to this. It would be carnage |
It’s so exaggerated.
It would be fine on the Friday, probably better, yeah some will take the day/afternoon off but most wouldn’t.
Just train from Ipswich after a couple of shandy’s in the station hotel as per. | |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:09 - Nov 27 with 1436 views | WD19 |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:11 - Nov 27 by Keno |
when its says "Talks between the clubs, the police and the football league are under way." isnt there another group of people who should be included in that? |
The EU? |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:20 - Nov 27 with 1364 views | JakeITFC |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:07 - Nov 27 by SitfcB |
It’s so exaggerated.
It would be fine on the Friday, probably better, yeah some will take the day/afternoon off but most wouldn’t.
Just train from Ipswich after a couple of shandy’s in the station hotel as per. |
Think either way they’ll stop the Town fans going to the Townhouse this year to avoid the flash point (that was entirely created by the police’s incompetence) that happened last time. People being more drunk on the walk to the ground from the station and in the ground won’t make much difference I wouldn’t have thought so it’ll just be whether pockets of fans fancy a go at having drinks in Norwich before or after. |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:41 - Nov 27 with 1237 views | JammyDodgerrr |
I'd be stunned in Norfolk Constabulary are pushing for this, Prince of Wales is a nightmare on a friday night generally, without football. |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:48 - Nov 27 with 1179 views | SitfcB |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 09:20 - Nov 27 by JakeITFC |
Think either way they’ll stop the Town fans going to the Townhouse this year to avoid the flash point (that was entirely created by the police’s incompetence) that happened last time. People being more drunk on the walk to the ground from the station and in the ground won’t make much difference I wouldn’t have thought so it’ll just be whether pockets of fans fancy a go at having drinks in Norwich before or after. |
They probably did it on purpose so they could then put a stop to it.
Worst away day of the season and not enjoyable at all. | |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:01 - Nov 27 with 1068 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 08:06 - Nov 27 by southnorfolkblue |
I'd be really surprised if the Police agreed to this. It would be carnage |
In 2011 we played them in a Thursday night running into a four day bank holiday weekend (Easter), and the only carnage was in our defence on the pitch. I don’t remember any more trouble than usual, especially as lots of people would be coming from work.
Friday night would be absolutely fine. |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:01 - Nov 27 with 1062 views | Basuco |
I think there was a Friday night game at PR a few years ago, I seem to remember a group of Town fans not attending the match stopped the nodge fans in the police escorted bubble, getting to the ground until 10 or 15 minutes after kick-off. |  | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:04 - Nov 27 with 1034 views | SitfcB |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:01 - Nov 27 by Basuco |
I think there was a Friday night game at PR a few years ago, I seem to remember a group of Town fans not attending the match stopped the nodge fans in the police escorted bubble, getting to the ground until 10 or 15 minutes after kick-off. |
It was the 5-1 shíte on Good Friday over 10(?) years ago now.
They got blocked in after the game as well with ITFC fans sitting in the middle of the road on Princes St bridge. | |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:07 - Nov 27 with 1013 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:01 - Nov 27 by Matt_Netherlands |
In 2011 we played them in a Thursday night running into a four day bank holiday weekend (Easter), and the only carnage was in our defence on the pitch. I don’t remember any more trouble than usual, especially as lots of people would be coming from work.
Friday night would be absolutely fine. |
19 arrests that night, it certainly felt worse than normal, which you would expect when so many people were around drinking from lunchtime for an evening kick off ahead of a bank holiday weekend.
As much as I'd like it to happen, I don't think its a stretch to suggest a midday Saturday is going to be much, much easier to police. Not just booze but time wise you just avoid the risk of Town fans in norwich for hours pre match. | | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:09 - Nov 27 with 996 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
It does baffle me how the Merseyside derby is regularly an evening kick-off, and the North London derby just had a 4.30 Sunday KO, but if Ipswich vs Norwich starts any later than midday it would supposedly lead to some sort of purge-type event. Idiots will be idiots, regardless of the time of day. | | | |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:35 - Nov 27 with 866 views | Radlett_blue |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:09 - Nov 27 by SWLondonBlue93 |
It does baffle me how the Merseyside derby is regularly an evening kick-off, and the North London derby just had a 4.30 Sunday KO, but if Ipswich vs Norwich starts any later than midday it would supposedly lead to some sort of purge-type event. Idiots will be idiots, regardless of the time of day. |
Liverpool is split between reds & blues so it's a totally different policing matter from controlling 2,000 fans from another town or city. Same with the Sheffield derby. |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:42 - Nov 27 with 840 views | Zx1988 |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:09 - Nov 27 by SWLondonBlue93 |
It does baffle me how the Merseyside derby is regularly an evening kick-off, and the North London derby just had a 4.30 Sunday KO, but if Ipswich vs Norwich starts any later than midday it would supposedly lead to some sort of purge-type event. Idiots will be idiots, regardless of the time of day. |
As Radlett aludes to, derbies within the same city are a different kettle of fish. There's certainly the needle aspect, but the fans will generally live with each other in daily life, work with each other, and form friendships across the divide. It all probably serves to dampen down some of the 'hate'.
Longer-distance derbies such as ours, Newcastle v Sunderland, Man Utd v Leeds etc., are potentially harder to police owing to the distance between the fans and the fact that, typically, there won't be too much mixing of the fans in day-to-day life. | |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:53 - Nov 27 with 790 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:04 - Nov 27 by SitfcB |
It was the 5-1 shíte on Good Friday over 10(?) years ago now.
They got blocked in after the game as well with ITFC fans sitting in the middle of the road on Princes St bridge. |
Maundy Thursday. |  |
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| Norwich (A) on a Friday night? on 10:54 - Nov 27 with 782 views | chantryblueboy |
Wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up getting ‘bussed’ there if there are no trains and it remains on the Saturday/Sunday | | | |
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