| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? 15:45 - Dec 14 with 2200 views | Denny32 |
Considering how badly his recruitment has been. If it looks like top two are not reachable..they may just let him see can he get us up on what we have. And if we in championship Come nxt season.i Can see him gone .why spend another 20 million or more if the quality isn't incoming |  | | |  |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:47 - Dec 14 with 1785 views | BlueNomad |
Were you thinking this after Coventry and Stoke? We have so many Private Frasers on here. |  | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:49 - Dec 14 with 1766 views | J2BLUE |
Of course they will. It's 8 points not 18.
1-2 key additions could transform us. The recruitment was wrong and unbalanced in the summer but I think most of us agree on the 2-3 key areas where we could strengthen to look a lot better.
There's zero chance the club have given up on the top two. Some of the fans need to get a grip. |  |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:56 - Dec 14 with 1725 views | Denny32 |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:49 - Dec 14 by J2BLUE |
Of course they will. It's 8 points not 18.
1-2 key additions could transform us. The recruitment was wrong and unbalanced in the summer but I think most of us agree on the 2-3 key areas where we could strengthen to look a lot better.
There's zero chance the club have given up on the top two. Some of the fans need to get a grip. |
Hopefully..I fully believe he deserves a second bite at the premiership..just hope too that owners will see that | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:57 - Dec 14 with 1716 views | jasondozzell |
We are not even halfway through a championship season. It's a marathon to get halfway through and it'll be another marathon after.
We are fifth. We are 8 points off second.
KM was brought here for a project. He did such a good job that we got to the PL 3 years ahead of schedule!!!!
Everyone needs to get a grip.
It's not a sodding video game. |  | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:11 - Dec 14 with 1630 views | NthQldITFC |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:47 - Dec 14 by BlueNomad |
Were you thinking this after Coventry and Stoke? We have so many Private Frasers on here. |
Apropos of nothing, they filmed a lot of Dad's Army in Norfolk, I believe. Lovely countryside and thirty to thirty two years behind the rest of the country. |  |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:12 - Dec 14 with 1627 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Has it been bad from an owners perspective? Not great, but, they've got about £80 million back from the 3 sales over the summer. It sounds like Murica might Ven wipe his face. What about the 'flops' this season? We're not going to get mega bucks but I'm sure we could sell O shea, Jaden and Clarke for a chunk of what we bought them for, a small loss in football terms. Egili and Nunez despite being part of the less than amazing team I feel could potentially be worth more than we paid already, Matusiwa too. Mcateer and Greaves look like fairly big overspends at times, szmodic maybe too.
Hardly a terrible record, at least financially and will definitely get him more time/money. Ironically that could be part of the problem. The onus on biggish fees for young ish players for sell on value is an obvious strategy that makes sense but is maybe a bit restrictive. |  | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:14 - Dec 14 with 1614 views | OldFart71 |
Whilst I don't see us giving up on 1st and 2nd place each defeat or draw makes it that harder especially when the top two keep getting points whether that be one or three.
There's definitely the need for more firepower up front with one player on six goals and the rest with about the same between them.
But as we know strikers of quality and a guarantee of goals is almost impossible to predict or for that matter available to buy and if they are they could be beyond our reach. | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:23 - Dec 14 with 1541 views | OldFart71 |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:12 - Dec 14 by Axeldalai_lama |
Has it been bad from an owners perspective? Not great, but, they've got about £80 million back from the 3 sales over the summer. It sounds like Murica might Ven wipe his face. What about the 'flops' this season? We're not going to get mega bucks but I'm sure we could sell O shea, Jaden and Clarke for a chunk of what we bought them for, a small loss in football terms. Egili and Nunez despite being part of the less than amazing team I feel could potentially be worth more than we paid already, Matusiwa too. Mcateer and Greaves look like fairly big overspends at times, szmodic maybe too.
Hardly a terrible record, at least financially and will definitely get him more time/money. Ironically that could be part of the problem. The onus on biggish fees for young ish players for sell on value is an obvious strategy that makes sense but is maybe a bit restrictive. |
I agree about youngish players. Egeli was bought for potential. The question would be, is that potential just to sell on as I know there are teams who stay in the Premier League using that exact method. But unless you are very lucky or brilliant at spotting potential and then of course those players actual reach their potential there's a danger that one season that method fails and then you end up getting demoted.
You do of course need experience as well. But for whatever reason several of the players,as with last season, haven't produced the goods. Is that bad recruitment or just bad luck ? | | | |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 with 1534 views | Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:28 - Dec 14 with 1502 views | jasondozzell |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 by Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. |
You're entitled to your opinion but respectfully it's total nonsense. | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:42 - Dec 14 with 1447 views | Crawfordsboot |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 by Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. |
What rubbish! We failed in the Premiership not because of McKenna but because he overachieved and got us to the premiership with a squad containing a number of lg1 and Championship players plus Omari and Delap. Coming from Lg1 it was always going to take three or more years before we could assemble a squad strong enough to stand a chance of staying up. If we had Omari and Delap in the current squad we would be far better than the squad he went up with last time. Also we would be in a better place financially to strengthen further, i.e. strengthen from a stronger base.
McKenna has done a great job. Is he perfect ? No but i think he can get us back to the Pem and, if backed, stand a chance of staying up. |  | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:44 - Dec 14 with 1435 views | Meadowlark |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:47 - Dec 14 with 1421 views | stiff_talking |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:28 - Dec 14 by jasondozzell |
You're entitled to your opinion but respectfully it's total nonsense. |
McKenna needs to find solutions to attacking low block and improving our defending when we lose the ball. We struggle to score against low block teams despite high levels of ball possession. It’s been a problem all season. When teams attack us we boss the game and win out easily.
When we lose the ball high up we struggle to deal with long direct balls. We have to defensively work out how to make us water tight against those attacks. As against low block teams we concede too many.
Recruitment has been good in certain areas. But not all the signing we made were the upgrades we hoped for. More money will be given and what we need is a better #9 as priority. Hirst can’t hold up a ball but is fine running on to the ball. The Shark is likeable fella but the miss against Stoke tells you all you need to know. He isn’t good enough. | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 17:06 - Dec 14 with 1373 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 by Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. |
Who are the usual suspects? Given this is only your second post in 2 years (the other one suggesting replacements for McKenna) it's not like you've got a lot of grief off whoever they are! |  |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:17 - Dec 14 with 1154 views | Guthrum |
Bad recruitment?
Delap and Hutchinson, who made us big profits? Luongo, who gave a vital boost to our promotion from League One? O'Shea and Kipre, who are becoming ever more solid in defence? Davis, who has been outstanding at left back? Furlong, who is quietly developing into a good right back? Nunez, tearing games up in midfield/no.10? Walle Egeli, showing increasingly high potential? Clarke and Philogene, our top goalscorers? Taylor, who has transformed himself into a very solid midfielder? Cajuste, Akpom, Szmodics, Azon, all useful players?
But, apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us? |  |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:23 - Dec 14 with 1121 views | NthQldITFC |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:17 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
Bad recruitment?
Delap and Hutchinson, who made us big profits? Luongo, who gave a vital boost to our promotion from League One? O'Shea and Kipre, who are becoming ever more solid in defence? Davis, who has been outstanding at left back? Furlong, who is quietly developing into a good right back? Nunez, tearing games up in midfield/no.10? Walle Egeli, showing increasingly high potential? Clarke and Philogene, our top goalscorers? Taylor, who has transformed himself into a very solid midfielder? Cajuste, Akpom, Szmodics, Azon, all useful players?
But, apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us? |
I swear I hadn't seen your last paragraph when exactly the same phrase popped into my head! | |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:25 - Dec 14 with 1109 views | blueoutlook |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 by Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. |
Careful, you dare to question the messiah and the usual suspects will jump on you. I think he has struggled for 20 months now. Not a great record with the amount of money wasted. Both him and Ashton have a lot to answer for. It’s just been a scatter gun approach to new players brought in. Massive money paid for bang average players. And best of all the players brought in don’t fit Mckennas system. Couldn’t make it up………… |  | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:36 - Dec 14 with 1079 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:17 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
Bad recruitment?
Delap and Hutchinson, who made us big profits? Luongo, who gave a vital boost to our promotion from League One? O'Shea and Kipre, who are becoming ever more solid in defence? Davis, who has been outstanding at left back? Furlong, who is quietly developing into a good right back? Nunez, tearing games up in midfield/no.10? Walle Egeli, showing increasingly high potential? Clarke and Philogene, our top goalscorers? Taylor, who has transformed himself into a very solid midfielder? Cajuste, Akpom, Szmodics, Azon, all useful players?
But, apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us? |
Akpom hasn't shown any use
Azon misses the most easiest of chances
Szmodics has never worked in the town team
Cajuste has the ability but we should have known hes unable to utilise it long enough in games and appears a panic signing
Kipre solid enough but then what about the £15 mill defender hes replaced
Furlong i really like but we then have johnson
Taylor. Has looked better than cajuste because he can run but hes incredibly average with the ball and a mid table cm imo
Let's not forget we also signed ogbene then binned him a year later for a fella he plays instead of for Ireland.
Davis. Of course excellent but weve ruined his use by signing clarke and philogene
In clarke and philly two similar players. One ( jayden ) i think has far more development potential. Clarke I think had reached his heights and feel we could get better
Egeli. Love the guy. Heaps of potential but not sure why we are playing him on the right.
Nunez. Love the guy but strange signing really when km signed akpom for 10 sammy for 10 so you'd assume nunez for cm yet hes not mobile enough for the pivot role. I still think this was an ashton haha norwich signing rather than a km target.
Its been a mixed bag id say. I do tho think you overplay the usefulness if the likes of akpom etc. We just havent seen it.
To the op. Yes the owners will make money |  |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:40 - Dec 14 with 1068 views | NthQldITFC |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 by Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. |
Where were you? | |
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:41 - Dec 14 with 1067 views | itfcsuth |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:17 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
Bad recruitment?
Delap and Hutchinson, who made us big profits? Luongo, who gave a vital boost to our promotion from League One? O'Shea and Kipre, who are becoming ever more solid in defence? Davis, who has been outstanding at left back? Furlong, who is quietly developing into a good right back? Nunez, tearing games up in midfield/no.10? Walle Egeli, showing increasingly high potential? Clarke and Philogene, our top goalscorers? Taylor, who has transformed himself into a very solid midfielder? Cajuste, Akpom, Szmodics, Azon, all useful players?
But, apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us? |
Like any recruitment team, you get some right, some wrong, and we have probably got more wrong than right in the past 18 months.
You make good pointers, but this flip side is that of course, Greaves is a £15m supposed PL upgrade on Burgess, but he looked a long way off PL, and would need better if we were to return to PL, not even first choice in the Championship.
Ben Johnson & Kalvin Phillips proved very poor PL expirience additions.
Aro Muric cost £10m or so and is now being loaned out, doesn’t get into our Championship team.
Ogbene, another £8m down the drain and since loaned out.
McAteer at £13m looks mind blowing, struggled in our Championship team.
Jack Clarke and Jaden Philogene, at a cost of £30m, both looked miles off the pace at PL, but you’d hope they would be consistently shine at this level, they play in flashes.
Szmodics at £8m, is he a good fit for our system in the 10, can he stay fit at all.
Azon and Akpom, a pair of panic signings really. [Post edited 15 Dec 0:22]
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| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 20:05 - Dec 14 with 974 views | ITFCSG |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 19:41 - Dec 14 by itfcsuth |
Like any recruitment team, you get some right, some wrong, and we have probably got more wrong than right in the past 18 months.
You make good pointers, but this flip side is that of course, Greaves is a £15m supposed PL upgrade on Burgess, but he looked a long way off PL, and would need better if we were to return to PL, not even first choice in the Championship.
Ben Johnson & Kalvin Phillips proved very poor PL expirience additions.
Aro Muric cost £10m or so and is now being loaned out, doesn’t get into our Championship team.
Ogbene, another £8m down the drain and since loaned out.
McAteer at £13m looks mind blowing, struggled in our Championship team.
Jack Clarke and Jaden Philogene, at a cost of £30m, both looked miles off the pace at PL, but you’d hope they would be consistently shine at this level, they play in flashes.
Szmodics at £8m, is he a good fit for our system in the 10, can he stay fit at all.
Azon and Akpom, a pair of panic signings really. [Post edited 15 Dec 0:22]
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Its fooking Murphy's Law innit
And also who are the scouts, beggars belief what did they see in McAteer, Akpom, Azon etc. to be convinced that they would improve our team? | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 20:19 - Dec 14 with 934 views | Denny32 |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 20:05 - Dec 14 by ITFCSG |
Its fooking Murphy's Law innit
And also who are the scouts, beggars belief what did they see in McAteer, Akpom, Azon etc. to be convinced that they would improve our team? |
I don't think anyone else was prepared to come..remember most players are influenced by the wags ..the aforementioned have to be with a big club near a big city ..handbags and gladrags.. | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 20:50 - Dec 14 with 848 views | Blue_Moses |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:47 - Dec 14 by BlueNomad |
Were you thinking this after Coventry and Stoke? We have so many Private Frasers on here. |
I was | | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 21:25 - Dec 14 with 748 views | Churchman |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 16:25 - Dec 14 by Iwasthere |
Not if they have any sense.
I expect the usual defamatory replies from the usual suspects, but McKenna has taken us a far as he can. His record over the past 18 months proves that.
If he is lucky he will get to the end of the season, which I sadly expect.to happen.
He needs fresh ideas and an experienced new first team coach to be appointed along side him. He is probably too stubborn to let that happen. |
Yay! ‘Has taken us as far as he can’. The old Charlton Curbishley line. I wondered which of you would be the first with that. Well done!!!
Didn’t see you post last week or any other week. Probably me or maybe you were busy with the washing.
But don’t wet the bed - your, and many others besides, dearest wish will be fulfilled. McKenna fully knows he is not wanted here and will be gone before the season’s end or at it. There will be a queue of better clubs than this crawling over broken glass for his services.
So who do you want to replace him who will actually come here? Off you go. Let’s have a list. |  | | |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 21:28 - Dec 14 with 744 views | Churchman |
| Just wonder will owners give money to mckenna in January? on 15:47 - Dec 14 by BlueNomad |
Were you thinking this after Coventry and Stoke? We have so many Private Frasers on here. |
Of course he wasn’t thinking this after Coventry and Stoke. He was too disappointed. | | | |
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