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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 14:10 - Jan 22 by NedPlimpton
Sure, but there was an impact from the threat of tariffs, that obviously didn't materialise but i don't think you can deny that there was a bit of panic in the global markets at the time. That shows the impact Trump has
The Novichok poisoning wasn't a direct threat to me but you've used that as an example. Brexit has been and gone and wasn't an option in the poll. I don't think there can be much doubt that Trump is expediting the widening of the Overton Window at a rapid pace and that would have direct consequences on UK political policy
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The energy crisis was far more economically damaging than a temporary dip from soaring index levels. Both Brexit and the Energy crisis were Russian linked and are still having repercussions today. Meanwhile the markets are in and around record highs and trade continues between the Europe and US.
Novichuk not being a direct threat to you is also a daft argument. Unless you are an Inuit posting from Nuuk I doubt a mineral play is a direct threat to you either…
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 15:44 - Jan 22 with 978 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 12:02 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue
I'd say the people being 'edgy' are those who have voted for the USA over Russia, a country that has invaded a European sovereign nation, engages in the sabotage of energy pipelines supplying Europe, has sent hit squads using nerve agents to assassinate people living in the United Kingdom and launches daily cyber attacks on our banking institutions, government agencies and commercial businesses.
Seems mad to me that there’s an active invasion to our continent from a dictator who’s committed genocides, and kidnapped children to Russify them is seen as less a threat. But the media is partly to blame I guess they’ve got bored of reporting on the horrors occurring on our continent and have moved on to the next thing and people have quickly lost all sense of magnitude.
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:01 - Jan 22 with 931 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 15:43 - Jan 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna
The energy crisis was far more economically damaging than a temporary dip from soaring index levels. Both Brexit and the Energy crisis were Russian linked and are still having repercussions today. Meanwhile the markets are in and around record highs and trade continues between the Europe and US.
Novichuk not being a direct threat to you is also a daft argument. Unless you are an Inuit posting from Nuuk I doubt a mineral play is a direct threat to you either…
Again, just expressing why some may have voted for the US. Agreed that the energy crisis and Brexit had a huge impact at the time, but again, Brexit was not an option on the poll
I'm not really sure what you're suggesting with you're second point. There are clearly more US policies than Greenland and all have various implications on the UK. Directly and indirectly
FWIW I agree that Russia is a bigger threat to national security. But I can sympathise with those who may have voted for the US given how much of our way of life is dictated to an extent by what happens across the Atlantic. Our biggest tech companies, retailers, cultural influences, military contracts etc are all American. The volatile nature of Trumps presidency must surely be seen as a huge threat to daily life over here
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:11 - Jan 22 with 886 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:01 - Jan 22 by NedPlimpton
Again, just expressing why some may have voted for the US. Agreed that the energy crisis and Brexit had a huge impact at the time, but again, Brexit was not an option on the poll
I'm not really sure what you're suggesting with you're second point. There are clearly more US policies than Greenland and all have various implications on the UK. Directly and indirectly
FWIW I agree that Russia is a bigger threat to national security. But I can sympathise with those who may have voted for the US given how much of our way of life is dictated to an extent by what happens across the Atlantic. Our biggest tech companies, retailers, cultural influences, military contracts etc are all American. The volatile nature of Trumps presidency must surely be seen as a huge threat to daily life over here
“ how much of our way of life is dictated to an extent by what happens across the Atlantic. Our biggest tech companies, retailers, cultural influences, military contracts etc are all American. The volatile nature of Trumps presidency must surely be seen as a huge threat to daily life over here”
I don't really understand what threat that is? As I said earlier - there’s a two way relationship, Europe has some of the wealthiest nations in the world, if the relationship with the US were to completely collapse who are they going to sell stuff to? The US has over $1trn in assets in Europe, and trade will continue despite some of the rhetoric. That’s why the tariffs was largely bluster, as is a lot of the other issues.
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:19 - Jan 22 with 874 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:11 - Jan 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna
“ how much of our way of life is dictated to an extent by what happens across the Atlantic. Our biggest tech companies, retailers, cultural influences, military contracts etc are all American. The volatile nature of Trumps presidency must surely be seen as a huge threat to daily life over here”
I don't really understand what threat that is? As I said earlier - there’s a two way relationship, Europe has some of the wealthiest nations in the world, if the relationship with the US were to completely collapse who are they going to sell stuff to? The US has over $1trn in assets in Europe, and trade will continue despite some of the rhetoric. That’s why the tariffs was largely bluster, as is a lot of the other issues.
Trump's policies tend to get picked up by political parties in this country. One recent example is Reform councils getting all excited for implementing their own DOGE teams. Another likely one would be around attitudes to net zero and climate change
I guess the "threat" element depends on your definition of the word but it would be naive to think what happens over there doesn't have a huge impact on what happens here, politically and culturally
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:43 - Jan 22 with 814 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:11 - Jan 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna
“ how much of our way of life is dictated to an extent by what happens across the Atlantic. Our biggest tech companies, retailers, cultural influences, military contracts etc are all American. The volatile nature of Trumps presidency must surely be seen as a huge threat to daily life over here”
I don't really understand what threat that is? As I said earlier - there’s a two way relationship, Europe has some of the wealthiest nations in the world, if the relationship with the US were to completely collapse who are they going to sell stuff to? The US has over $1trn in assets in Europe, and trade will continue despite some of the rhetoric. That’s why the tariffs was largely bluster, as is a lot of the other issues.
The threat is the weakening of the Atlantic alliance and dissolution of NATO, which then massively magnifies existing threats from Russia and China. If Russia were happy to invade mainland Europe during a period of relative NATO unity, imagine how emboldened Putin will be should Trump’s actions impact NATO’s strength. It is undeniably a significant geopolitical threat and quite possibly the largest one facing traditional allies of the US because it’s caught everyone cold.
The US home threat to way of life is the break up of norms. He’s only just started and a number of his initiatives have been predicted as increasing wealth inequality, poverty, restricting access to healthcare, etc.
And then you’ve got other current issues like women’s rights being reversed in some states operating under MAGA leadership, employment of forces against their own people, an increasingly unaccountable militarised ICE kidnapping people off the streets sometimes without warrants and no legal access and killing citizens with no due process or accountability. The threat is that these behaviours expand and escalate. These are not things that normally happen in a healthy democracy.
There’s a lot of uncertainty around what’s in store for the American people and the rest of the world. We’ll have to see how much more authoritarian he’s prepared to go. The threats are real and shouldn’t be dismissed imo.
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 12:27 - Jan 22 by lowhouseblue
it's things like that that make me think that politics on twtd often has a primarily therapeutic purpose. global events are big, scarey, and individuals are powerless, so constantly banging on about trump in the most extreme terms online is just like one of those rage rooms.
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:43 - Jan 22 by Swansea_Blue
The threat is the weakening of the Atlantic alliance and dissolution of NATO, which then massively magnifies existing threats from Russia and China. If Russia were happy to invade mainland Europe during a period of relative NATO unity, imagine how emboldened Putin will be should Trump’s actions impact NATO’s strength. It is undeniably a significant geopolitical threat and quite possibly the largest one facing traditional allies of the US because it’s caught everyone cold.
The US home threat to way of life is the break up of norms. He’s only just started and a number of his initiatives have been predicted as increasing wealth inequality, poverty, restricting access to healthcare, etc.
And then you’ve got other current issues like women’s rights being reversed in some states operating under MAGA leadership, employment of forces against their own people, an increasingly unaccountable militarised ICE kidnapping people off the streets sometimes without warrants and no legal access and killing citizens with no due process or accountability. The threat is that these behaviours expand and escalate. These are not things that normally happen in a healthy democracy.
There’s a lot of uncertainty around what’s in store for the American people and the rest of the world. We’ll have to see how much more authoritarian he’s prepared to go. The threats are real and shouldn’t be dismissed imo.
“The threat is the weakening of the Atlantic alliance and dissolution of NATO, which then massively magnifies existing threats from Russia and China. If Russia were happy to invade mainland Europe during a period of relative NATO unity, imagine how emboldened Putin will be should Trump’s actions impact NATO’s strength. It is undeniably a significant geopolitical threat and quite possibly the largest one facing traditional allies of the US because it’s caught everyone cold.”
But the proximate there is Russia not the US, Russia are the greatest threat which is what the poll was. And it shouldn’t have caught anyone cold, it was clear from his first term that he was an isolationist. Europe and the UK have been entirely complacent, even as far back as Crimea (before Trump) alarm bells should have rung. You can disagree with the US wavering on NATO, but there’s certainly merit in Europe relying on a third party country for security - not pulling its weight financially. Germany is one of the wealthiest countries in the world and all they were able to offer Ukraine initially was some helmets and mouldy missiles that turned out to be unusable.
I’m not saying the other issues aren’t geopolitical risks but compared to the Russian subversion of our democracy, engagement of a large scale invasion in a european nation and a total war economy, as well as attacks on our infrastructure, the US is much further down the list. Put it this way, UK investment plans in the US are still strong (and vice versa), and they most certainly aren’t in Russia - this is reflective of thorough risk assessment.
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 17:49 - Jan 22 with 702 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 16:46 - Jan 22 by NewcyBlue
Jeez you’re repetitively dull.
great contribution. well done you.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 17:53 - Jan 22 with 694 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 17:40 - Jan 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna
“The threat is the weakening of the Atlantic alliance and dissolution of NATO, which then massively magnifies existing threats from Russia and China. If Russia were happy to invade mainland Europe during a period of relative NATO unity, imagine how emboldened Putin will be should Trump’s actions impact NATO’s strength. It is undeniably a significant geopolitical threat and quite possibly the largest one facing traditional allies of the US because it’s caught everyone cold.”
But the proximate there is Russia not the US, Russia are the greatest threat which is what the poll was. And it shouldn’t have caught anyone cold, it was clear from his first term that he was an isolationist. Europe and the UK have been entirely complacent, even as far back as Crimea (before Trump) alarm bells should have rung. You can disagree with the US wavering on NATO, but there’s certainly merit in Europe relying on a third party country for security - not pulling its weight financially. Germany is one of the wealthiest countries in the world and all they were able to offer Ukraine initially was some helmets and mouldy missiles that turned out to be unusable.
I’m not saying the other issues aren’t geopolitical risks but compared to the Russian subversion of our democracy, engagement of a large scale invasion in a european nation and a total war economy, as well as attacks on our infrastructure, the US is much further down the list. Put it this way, UK investment plans in the US are still strong (and vice versa), and they most certainly aren’t in Russia - this is reflective of thorough risk assessment.
Fair enough. I view Russia as a constant and something we’re adjusted to and have plans to deal with. Trump is a wildcard that undermines those plans and furthers Russia’s interests. MAGA mentality and their networks that have influence here in the UK are also undermining our democracy, again aligning with Russian interests. I think we’re just coming from slightly different angles. I agree Russia is the prime issue, but think America’s role as useful idiot shouldn’t be underestimated and offers some more immediate, less predictable threats.
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 10:08 - Jan 26 by Swansea_Blue
Fair enough. I view Russia as a constant and something we’re adjusted to and have plans to deal with. Trump is a wildcard that undermines those plans and furthers Russia’s interests. MAGA mentality and their networks that have influence here in the UK are also undermining our democracy, again aligning with Russian interests. I think we’re just coming from slightly different angles. I agree Russia is the prime issue, but think America’s role as useful idiot shouldn’t be underestimated and offers some more immediate, less predictable threats.
Does Russia still exist? I remember several economists stating that Russia would "run out of money" because of Western sanctions and we all know how brilliant economists are at explaining money to people.
I saw poor old Lowers was pumping out the Lionel Robbins nonsense the other day, but some winners of the top prize in economics are starting to come out against mainstream economics. Angus Deaton(not him!) stated,"...today we are in some disarray." Will I get my wish that this nonsense is finally put in the dustbin?
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 10:32 - Jan 26 by CoachRob
Does Russia still exist? I remember several economists stating that Russia would "run out of money" because of Western sanctions and we all know how brilliant economists are at explaining money to people.
I saw poor old Lowers was pumping out the Lionel Robbins nonsense the other day, but some winners of the top prize in economics are starting to come out against mainstream economics. Angus Deaton(not him!) stated,"...today we are in some disarray." Will I get my wish that this nonsense is finally put in the dustbin?
I don't know much about economics, but my impression is that has two major, major faults:
1. It's treated as a 'science' - there are elements of science to it, but nothing like the precision or reliable measurability of a proper science, and yet conclusions are drawn and adhered to based on woolliness. It's as much of an art as a science, but economists won't accept that.
2. Old, outdated, irrelevant models are stuck to - almost religiously - in a rapidly changing environment, with the dogma of "That's how things are done". Vested interests, both intellectual and financial. These models are dangerously - highly dangerously - unsuited to the extremely fragile societal and environmental infrastructure we and everything else on Earth depends upon.
How far wide of the mark am I with that? What else?
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
The biggest threat to the UK is the UK itself. Do I like Trump ? No. But what he says with regards to how we are shooting ourselves in the foot ( Better than shooting anything that moves or disagrees though). Common sense has to prevail with things like NET ZERO. Why buy gas and oil from other Countries when it's on our doorstep. Why buy windmills and solar panels from a country producing them with coal fired power stations. Why run an army down by 50,000 when dangers are ever present. Why just rely on Services and run industry into the ground. I remember the days when in Stowmarket you have the Lawnmowers factory and I.C.I. employing around 1700 between them. Now the Lawnmowers have long gone and the old I.C.I. factory now PPG Industries and Akzo Nobel employing probably 500.
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Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 12:22 - Jan 26 with 277 views
Who is the greatest threat to the UK right now? on 11:42 - Jan 26 by OldFart71
The biggest threat to the UK is the UK itself. Do I like Trump ? No. But what he says with regards to how we are shooting ourselves in the foot ( Better than shooting anything that moves or disagrees though). Common sense has to prevail with things like NET ZERO. Why buy gas and oil from other Countries when it's on our doorstep. Why buy windmills and solar panels from a country producing them with coal fired power stations. Why run an army down by 50,000 when dangers are ever present. Why just rely on Services and run industry into the ground. I remember the days when in Stowmarket you have the Lawnmowers factory and I.C.I. employing around 1700 between them. Now the Lawnmowers have long gone and the old I.C.I. factory now PPG Industries and Akzo Nobel employing probably 500.
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