| Sindre 17:42 - Jan 31 with 6286 views | MillsTash |
Another dull performance from him. So easy to read for defenders every time cuts in on his left and plays it back or to central midfield. Burns should have played the full 90. |  | | |  |
| Sindre on 14:31 - Feb 1 with 898 views | Churchman |
| Sindre on 13:07 - Feb 1 by EddyJ |
I have no idea as to the exact details. I imagine Ashton and McKenna both have to agree to the signings. Perhaps some choices are more one and more the other.
But, Bristol fans had this exact complaint about Ashton, suggesting it’s the way he personally operates. |
You either accept how they've described the recruitment process or you call them out as liars. There is no middle ground.
But forget that, we are clearly back to swallowing the endless ravings of the monowbrow knuckledraggers from Bristol on here and their 70 plus pages of fixation and ignorance on OTIB.
Just goes to prove the power of social media. If they said it, it must be true. And of course, now Bristol City are earmarked for Champions League football all since Ashton was sacked (he resigned, but why bother with the truth) that just goes to further prove he really is the devil they paint. |  | | |
| Sindre on 14:45 - Feb 1 with 870 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sindre on 14:31 - Feb 1 by Churchman |
You either accept how they've described the recruitment process or you call them out as liars. There is no middle ground.
But forget that, we are clearly back to swallowing the endless ravings of the monowbrow knuckledraggers from Bristol on here and their 70 plus pages of fixation and ignorance on OTIB.
Just goes to prove the power of social media. If they said it, it must be true. And of course, now Bristol City are earmarked for Champions League football all since Ashton was sacked (he resigned, but why bother with the truth) that just goes to further prove he really is the devil they paint. |
There is a middle ground. As people mentioned to my post last night. What is said i. Interviews isnt what happens behind the scenes.
Personally and ive said this all through ashtons time here. It happens in all football clubs. Managers get their own players. They also have players given to them.
You only have to look at how players dont suit a managers style to guess who those players are I think it becomes really obvious tbh.
Its not the worst thing in the world. It happens at all levels from non league upwards. |  |
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| Sindre on 15:30 - Feb 1 with 803 views | Churchman |
| Sindre on 14:45 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
There is a middle ground. As people mentioned to my post last night. What is said i. Interviews isnt what happens behind the scenes.
Personally and ive said this all through ashtons time here. It happens in all football clubs. Managers get their own players. They also have players given to them.
You only have to look at how players dont suit a managers style to guess who those players are I think it becomes really obvious tbh.
Its not the worst thing in the world. It happens at all levels from non league upwards. |
‘They also have players given to them’. So you are outright calling Ashton and McKenna liars.
Can’t have it both ways. You take people at their word or you don’t.
But you might be right. Call them out. Challenge them. Let us know how you get on. If they’ve lied, I’ll be the next one to join the campaign to get rid of them both, bedsheet, crayons and all. I don’t do liars. | | | |
| Sindre on 15:41 - Feb 1 with 782 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sindre on 15:30 - Feb 1 by Churchman |
‘They also have players given to them’. So you are outright calling Ashton and McKenna liars.
Can’t have it both ways. You take people at their word or you don’t.
But you might be right. Call them out. Challenge them. Let us know how you get on. If they’ve lied, I’ll be the next one to join the campaign to get rid of them both, bedsheet, crayons and all. I don’t do liars. |
Wouldn't directly say lieing no as imo they'd have a recruitment policy in place which they've shared with the public after beint asked about our recruitment policy.
That however doesnt however mean outside of that policy other things dont happen. | |
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| Sindre on 15:49 - Feb 1 with 766 views | Churchman |
| Sindre on 15:41 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Wouldn't directly say lieing no as imo they'd have a recruitment policy in place which they've shared with the public after beint asked about our recruitment policy.
That however doesnt however mean outside of that policy other things dont happen. |
Sorry it’s black and white. If you say something that isn’t true, it’s a lie. There’s no ‘third way’ or outside the policy. It’s truth or lies. If a process they have described, more than once, is not followed, they’ve lied and as far as I’m concerned they need to be gone.
If they’ve changed that policy to one that mirrors what the top clubs do, then your challenge to them should reveal that . | | | |
| Sindre on 15:53 - Feb 1 with 759 views | BlueForYou |
"He looks technically sound but knowwhere near the intensity required for the championship".
Think that sums up the majority of this team! |  | | |
| Sindre on 15:57 - Feb 1 with 752 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sindre on 15:49 - Feb 1 by Churchman |
Sorry it’s black and white. If you say something that isn’t true, it’s a lie. There’s no ‘third way’ or outside the policy. It’s truth or lies. If a process they have described, more than once, is not followed, they’ve lied and as far as I’m concerned they need to be gone.
If they’ve changed that policy to one that mirrors what the top clubs do, then your challenge to them should reveal that . |
Well no. They were asked how the transfer policy works and they answered it.
Should ashton sign someone himself outside of that policy thats uptop him he makes the rules. He doesnt have to answer to any body.
Ive no need to challenge them church as I know it happens across all clubs so its not an issue for me. Obv youre welcome to challenge ashton yourself if you'd like him to confirm if he signs playes outside of mentioned policy. | |
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| Sindre on 15:59 - Feb 1 with 751 views | Churchman |
| Sindre on 15:57 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Well no. They were asked how the transfer policy works and they answered it.
Should ashton sign someone himself outside of that policy thats uptop him he makes the rules. He doesnt have to answer to any body.
Ive no need to challenge them church as I know it happens across all clubs so its not an issue for me. Obv youre welcome to challenge ashton yourself if you'd like him to confirm if he signs playes outside of mentioned policy. |
I’m not the one calling them out as liars. I take people at their word until proven otherwise wise. When proven otherwise, they’re dead to me.
So you know they’ve lied, but how do you know what happens across all clubs and ITFC in particular? | | | |
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| Sindre on 16:09 - Feb 1 with 734 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sindre on 15:59 - Feb 1 by Churchman |
I’m not the one calling them out as liars. I take people at their word until proven otherwise wise. When proven otherwise, they’re dead to me.
So you know they’ve lied, but how do you know what happens across all clubs and ITFC in particular? |
You're the one keen to call them liars. Ive agreed that they have a policy and thats what they have confirmed publicly.
As a chairman/ceo ashton can action things outside of club policy, after all Hes in charge. Doesn't make him a liar. Bad guy what ever label associated. It just means hes signed someone he sees that could be beneficial for the club.
Its not a negative so im really sure why were discussing it at such level lol | |
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| Sindre on 16:52 - Feb 1 with 698 views | EddyJ |
| Sindre on 14:00 - Feb 1 by nrb1985 |
"He is far more interested in signing players with a high potential sale price than he is signing players that will benefit the team now"
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on here.
Profits on player trading pale into complete insignificance compared to the riches of getting back to the Premier League. Given the fact he's a shareholder himself as well as CEO, I can pretty much assure you he does care about the here and now. |
Unfortunately this fast descent to hyperbole and personal attack is not one of the stupidest things I’ve seen on here. It’s fairly par for the course. It does no credit to your argument. |  | | |
| Sindre on 16:59 - Feb 1 with 682 views | nrb1985 |
| Sindre on 16:52 - Feb 1 by EddyJ |
Unfortunately this fast descent to hyperbole and personal attack is not one of the stupidest things I’ve seen on here. It’s fairly par for the course. It does no credit to your argument. |
Do you know what hyperbole means?
And if you think the first part of my post does my argument no credit - how about the last paragraph which points out how Ashton's own remuneration is linked to performance in the here and now - ergo, suggesting he doesn't care would seem at odds with any logical person's way of thinking.
Unless you think he'd rather just player trade, than get promoted as that's what gives him his kicks?! [Post edited 1 Feb 17:05]
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| Sindre on 17:10 - Feb 1 with 661 views | EddyJ |
| Sindre on 16:59 - Feb 1 by nrb1985 |
Do you know what hyperbole means?
And if you think the first part of my post does my argument no credit - how about the last paragraph which points out how Ashton's own remuneration is linked to performance in the here and now - ergo, suggesting he doesn't care would seem at odds with any logical person's way of thinking.
Unless you think he'd rather just player trade, than get promoted as that's what gives him his kicks?! [Post edited 1 Feb 17:05]
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The last paragraph IS your argument. That bit is fine. I don’t agree with it, but I don’t feel the need to try and belittle you for it either.
What I disliked was your need to prefix it with calling my argument “the stupidest thing you’d ever read”. It’s hyperbole. It’s a personal attack. And it reduces the power of your argument.
As for why I disagree with you:
1) We don’t know how Ashton is incentivised.
2) Ashton may genuinely see player trading as a viable way to get promoted
3) You are assuming there is a single logical path and Ashton must be following it.
4) Ashton has a history of prioritising player trading
But most importantly…
5) any logical person with £16m to spend and a sole aim of getting immediate promotion would not have spent all that money on an unproven teenager who had never played in England before. Therefore, they must be acting illogically, or have other goals. | | | |
| Sindre on 17:56 - Feb 1 with 625 views | GlasgowBlue |
He plays better when Nunez is in the team. Then again, so does everyone else.
No coincidence that our downturn in form has coincided with his absence. |  |
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| Sindre on 18:01 - Feb 1 with 620 views | TheBoyBlue |
Pretty sure I recall similar sentiments on players like Philogene and Jack Clarke in their first few months with us.
I'm confident he'll come good, may just take time. | |
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| Sindre on 18:28 - Feb 1 with 583 views | skinnybob72 |
| Sindre on 19:10 - Jan 31 by blueoutlook |
He is only 19. In a new country. Let him settle. What were you expecting this season, because I never expected him to play the amount of minutes he has. |
Very much this!
My son and I bumped into him near the Quayside after the Blackburn game and had a quick chat. He actually asked if we knew anywhere he could go for something to eat.
It got me wondering if he has anyone over here with him, or was he just on his own between the end of the game and the next training session. If that was the case you would hope that one of the older players, with a family, might take him under their wing a bit.
Can't be easy as a 19 year old, playing in a foreign country and left to your own devices for long periods of time. If he doesn't drive he may end up spending a lot of time just kicking about his flat. Then add on the high expectations of his price tag.
Fingers crossed it all works for the lad and he comes good. | | | |
| Sindre on 18:38 - Feb 1 with 562 views | StNeotsBlue |
| Sindre on 15:30 - Feb 1 by Churchman |
‘They also have players given to them’. So you are outright calling Ashton and McKenna liars.
Can’t have it both ways. You take people at their word or you don’t.
But you might be right. Call them out. Challenge them. Let us know how you get on. If they’ve lied, I’ll be the next one to join the campaign to get rid of them both, bedsheet, crayons and all. I don’t do liars. |
The fact that we've signed so many players from West Brom, a club he and his original cohorts know well, in his time here does suggest Ashton does more than pull a few strings when it comes to signings. |  | | |
| Sindre on 18:55 - Feb 1 with 538 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Sindre on 18:34 - Jan 31 by LankHenners |
Seems to have come right off the boil after looking like it was coming together nicely for him around December time. Looks timid and short of confidence for whatever reason. Doesn't help that thicko fans have started whinging and shouting at him when he even shapes to go inside. |
I guess poor Sindre, is now getting to feel what it's like for McAteer. I see yet another scapegoat on the horizon, that is if George Hirst doesn't get there first. | | | |
| Sindre on 19:05 - Feb 1 with 510 views | StokieBlue |
| Sindre on 17:10 - Feb 1 by EddyJ |
The last paragraph IS your argument. That bit is fine. I don’t agree with it, but I don’t feel the need to try and belittle you for it either.
What I disliked was your need to prefix it with calling my argument “the stupidest thing you’d ever read”. It’s hyperbole. It’s a personal attack. And it reduces the power of your argument.
As for why I disagree with you:
1) We don’t know how Ashton is incentivised.
2) Ashton may genuinely see player trading as a viable way to get promoted
3) You are assuming there is a single logical path and Ashton must be following it.
4) Ashton has a history of prioritising player trading
But most importantly…
5) any logical person with £16m to spend and a sole aim of getting immediate promotion would not have spent all that money on an unproven teenager who had never played in England before. Therefore, they must be acting illogically, or have other goals. |
Not sure you can accuse others of not having the full information and then make the assumptions you have in point (5).
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| Sindre on 19:11 - Feb 1 with 503 views | stonojnr |
| Sindre on 18:28 - Feb 1 by skinnybob72 |
Very much this!
My son and I bumped into him near the Quayside after the Blackburn game and had a quick chat. He actually asked if we knew anywhere he could go for something to eat.
It got me wondering if he has anyone over here with him, or was he just on his own between the end of the game and the next training session. If that was the case you would hope that one of the older players, with a family, might take him under their wing a bit.
Can't be easy as a 19 year old, playing in a foreign country and left to your own devices for long periods of time. If he doesn't drive he may end up spending a lot of time just kicking about his flat. Then add on the high expectations of his price tag.
Fingers crossed it all works for the lad and he comes good. |
he's pretty much on his own AIUI, I know people who have seen him in one of the local gyms, and he doesnt remotely come across as what youd think a young footballer would be like, he just gets on does his own thing like a regular 19 year old.
so he's really just a young kid in a different country, living away from family and friends, learning his trade, I cant believe our fans give him so much grief.
and its like why do you think he cuts back in all the time, he's left footed on the right wing, work it out. | | | |
| Sindre on 19:17 - Feb 1 with 485 views | pointofblue |
| Sindre on 19:11 - Feb 1 by stonojnr |
he's pretty much on his own AIUI, I know people who have seen him in one of the local gyms, and he doesnt remotely come across as what youd think a young footballer would be like, he just gets on does his own thing like a regular 19 year old.
so he's really just a young kid in a different country, living away from family and friends, learning his trade, I cant believe our fans give him so much grief.
and its like why do you think he cuts back in all the time, he's left footed on the right wing, work it out. |
If this is the case, the club should be questioned about the treatment of him - both on and off the pitch. Where's his mentor to help him settle in a new country? To show him around, to ensure he doesn't feel alone? To give him support considering the criticism being thrown in his direction at the moment?
And if he's being played out of position time and time again, that's not going to help either. | |
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| Sindre on 19:36 - Feb 1 with 460 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sindre on 19:11 - Feb 1 by stonojnr |
he's pretty much on his own AIUI, I know people who have seen him in one of the local gyms, and he doesnt remotely come across as what youd think a young footballer would be like, he just gets on does his own thing like a regular 19 year old.
so he's really just a young kid in a different country, living away from family and friends, learning his trade, I cant believe our fans give him so much grief.
and its like why do you think he cuts back in all the time, he's left footed on the right wing, work it out. |
Hopefully this is where someone like young takes him under his wing and looks after him.
I feel for egeli. Beginning of the season excitement lead to fans watching with intrigue but the way hes not progressed in the role has resulted in moans about the way he's being deployed being mixed up with thoughts on he as a player. | |
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| Sindre on 05:57 - Feb 2 with 321 views | nrb1985 |
| Sindre on 17:10 - Feb 1 by EddyJ |
The last paragraph IS your argument. That bit is fine. I don’t agree with it, but I don’t feel the need to try and belittle you for it either.
What I disliked was your need to prefix it with calling my argument “the stupidest thing you’d ever read”. It’s hyperbole. It’s a personal attack. And it reduces the power of your argument.
As for why I disagree with you:
1) We don’t know how Ashton is incentivised.
2) Ashton may genuinely see player trading as a viable way to get promoted
3) You are assuming there is a single logical path and Ashton must be following it.
4) Ashton has a history of prioritising player trading
But most importantly…
5) any logical person with £16m to spend and a sole aim of getting immediate promotion would not have spent all that money on an unproven teenager who had never played in England before. Therefore, they must be acting illogically, or have other goals. |
A few points:
1) we don’t know how Ashton is incentivized:
Given we are owned by two investment firms whose sole purpose is to generate profits for its stakeholders - how else do you think he’s incentivized?!
2) he may view player trading as the most viable route back to the premier league
Ah ok - so he does care about the here and now then and going back up?
3) he has a history of prioritizing player trading
He’s been fully in post for just over 4 years and we’ve been promoted twice. Where are you getting that he prioritizes player trading from?
Ps slight distinction - I said it was the stupidest thing I’ve seen on here, I didn’t call you stupid if that helps. [Post edited 2 Feb 5:57]
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| Sindre on 07:29 - Feb 2 with 248 views | Vic |
| Sindre on 22:11 - Jan 31 by algy |
I think he's a better player than he's looked but is being stifled by poor robotic coaching and not had the benefit of having a proper manager skilled in managing people. That's what comes from having a training ground coach in charge. Professional football is as much about what goes on in the head as it is with the feet. |
Do you really believe that Algy, or are you just on the wind up? Genuine question! |  |
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| Sindre on 07:30 - Feb 2 with 248 views | tractorshark |
I had a chat with the chief scout of FC Midtjylland earlier in the season when they were over here and he knew all about Sindre.
Said he was very highly rated and highly in demand so I don’t think we have been mugged off at all.
Comparing him to Omari is not really fair as they’re not the same type of player. In old money as wide players, Omari is a Giggs, Sindre is a Beckham.
Undoubtedly, he is struggling at the moment and of course there is the possibility it won’t work out for him here. But we are nowhere near that point yet.
People say he should be playing as a 10 but when he has moved into that position, he’s looked lost and lightweight.
McKenna clearly thinks playing him on the right is the best way for him to develop and he knows far more than me.
As fans, it’s natural to assume if you just change a few positions or personnel, all will be well.
In the eyes of some, Sindre becomes a better 10 the more he plays on the right and McAteer becomes a better player, the more he’s out the side.
But it’s never as simple as that.
I have more faith in Sindre than I do with McAteer right now but, hopefully, with a little bit of patience and development, both will come good for us.
McKenna has done some amazing things with our players but some have taken longer to shine than others.
I’ll trust him on this one. | | | |
| Sindre on 07:33 - Feb 2 with 242 views | itfcsuth |
| Sindre on 13:24 - Feb 1 by Nutkins_Return |
Most depressing thread in a while. He's one of the best prospects in Europe outside of the top clubs and we've attracted him here. Done fantastic for a young kid up to now and got a transfer to us.
He's hot and cold. He has some development to do in terms of the physical demands in England. But his ability looks fantastic. Ffs give him a bit of time!!
The entitlement and expectation that a kid coming over from Denmark should just be ripping up the Champ immediately is nothing short of ridiculous. Yes he cost a lot of money. But it's an investment on his big big potential. |
Not to sound too harsh on Sindre, he’s got a bright future I have no doubt. The fee is not a reflection on Sindre at all, it’s a reflection of the clubs recruitment. We are in the Championship and spending £20m you really need to see a greater output.
He looks a long way off Championship football, he’s largely looked ineffective if we’re being honest, and for the outlay we’ve needed more this season.
I’m not sure we are in a position as a football club trying to battle out of the Championship to be spending £20m on potential. |  | | |
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