| The split in the far-right vote 04:10 - Feb 18 with 7696 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Great to see. Albeit Lowe on Twitter is disturbing.
Anyone on here willing to admit they would vote Restore? Makes Farage and his lot look moderate in comparison some of that nazi sh** coming from Lowe. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 20:30 - Feb 19 with 577 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 11:18 - Feb 19 by JackNorthStand |
Remove on arrival, to locations outside of the UK. A plan which the Tories briefly had in place until Labour stopped it. |
You realise that is totally illegal right? Or do you not care about such things? | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 20:38 - Feb 19 with 550 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:18 - Feb 19 by noggin |
Most of these asylum seekers will have crossed at least one "safe country" to reach France, so why doesn't France return them to Spain or Italy? This is so much more complex than The Mail will have you believe. The vast majority of asylum seekers don't attempt to reach the UK. |
The vast majority are in Egypt, 4 times as many as the UK or 3 times as many per person in population terms. Applications (not those granted it but only those applying) are 1.5 people per thousand people already living here. That is like 4 or 5 people at Portman Road would be applying for asylum. https://www.worlddata.info/ref
Refugee data (including internally displaced) is here: https://worldpopulationreview.
International refugees is here: https://worldpopulationreview.
Hopefully people can clearly see from the data that the UK is far from a "soft touch" and that European countries like France and Germany (indeed per capita pretty much every other western European country) are taking many more than the UK. The demonisation of immigrants is absolutely blowing the scale of it out of all proportion. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 20:52 - Feb 19 with 509 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’ve just had a quick scan through the last couple of pages, and I think you’re allowing yourselves to get distracted here. Intercepting or returning asylum seekers isn’t a unique feature of Restore Britain and isn’t news or worthy of discussion imo (it’s the Tory/Reform and increasingly Labour status quo position). The pertinent issue is that Restore Britain goes A LOT further on the remigration and identity issues. They believe only ethnically “indigenous” (i.e. white Anglo Saxon) and Christian people can be British. Now, where have we heard about ethnical purity before…?
Given that 37M people identify as non-Christian and 10M Brits have an ethic minority ancestral background, their position is clearly crackers as well as being racist and religiously intolerant.
It’s undoubtedly a fascist mindset. It’s a fascist as we’ve had in Parliament since Mosley (I think, although historian buffs may know better. Enoch Powell wasn’t quite as intolerant when he made his Rivers of Blood speech as he was still talking about voluntary remigration, not forced like Restore Britain members are). |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 19 with 483 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:52 - Feb 19 by Swansea_Blue |
I’ve just had a quick scan through the last couple of pages, and I think you’re allowing yourselves to get distracted here. Intercepting or returning asylum seekers isn’t a unique feature of Restore Britain and isn’t news or worthy of discussion imo (it’s the Tory/Reform and increasingly Labour status quo position). The pertinent issue is that Restore Britain goes A LOT further on the remigration and identity issues. They believe only ethnically “indigenous” (i.e. white Anglo Saxon) and Christian people can be British. Now, where have we heard about ethnical purity before…?
Given that 37M people identify as non-Christian and 10M Brits have an ethic minority ancestral background, their position is clearly crackers as well as being racist and religiously intolerant.
It’s undoubtedly a fascist mindset. It’s a fascist as we’ve had in Parliament since Mosley (I think, although historian buffs may know better. Enoch Powell wasn’t quite as intolerant when he made his Rivers of Blood speech as he was still talking about voluntary remigration, not forced like Restore Britain members are). |
Indeed. It is good to see the extreme right splintering into multiple parties to split the impact of their support. However, it is alarming that such extremist political views are being openly espoused and are gaining in popularity. Extremely worrying.
Marching steadily rather than sleepwalking is my stated view and I stand by it. I wonder how those who vocally objected to the idea we were sleepwalking into it see it now. | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:04 - Feb 19 with 472 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 19 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed. It is good to see the extreme right splintering into multiple parties to split the impact of their support. However, it is alarming that such extremist political views are being openly espoused and are gaining in popularity. Extremely worrying.
Marching steadily rather than sleepwalking is my stated view and I stand by it. I wonder how those who vocally objected to the idea we were sleepwalking into it see it now. |
Yep, very worrying as they keep shifting rightwards. Lowe has gone beyond where any MP would have thought tolerable even just a few years ago. Christ, even Farage is horrified with their stance, which should give any decent person pause for thought. And our neo-Nazi groups are falling over themselves to congratulate and support Reform Britain. There’s not a lot further right they can go now without resorting to lynchings and the like. [Post edited 19 Feb 21:06]
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:40 - Feb 19 with 414 views | DJR |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:52 - Feb 19 by Swansea_Blue |
I’ve just had a quick scan through the last couple of pages, and I think you’re allowing yourselves to get distracted here. Intercepting or returning asylum seekers isn’t a unique feature of Restore Britain and isn’t news or worthy of discussion imo (it’s the Tory/Reform and increasingly Labour status quo position). The pertinent issue is that Restore Britain goes A LOT further on the remigration and identity issues. They believe only ethnically “indigenous” (i.e. white Anglo Saxon) and Christian people can be British. Now, where have we heard about ethnical purity before…?
Given that 37M people identify as non-Christian and 10M Brits have an ethic minority ancestral background, their position is clearly crackers as well as being racist and religiously intolerant.
It’s undoubtedly a fascist mindset. It’s a fascist as we’ve had in Parliament since Mosley (I think, although historian buffs may know better. Enoch Powell wasn’t quite as intolerant when he made his Rivers of Blood speech as he was still talking about voluntary remigration, not forced like Restore Britain members are). |
I suppose Labour have set a precedent by changing the rules for settled status for people legally here thus leading to the possibility of such people being forced to leave.
And much of the rhetoric around this topic (from the Tories, Reform and Restore) seems to me to be aimed at people legally entitled to be here and who have often been here for a long time.
https://www.independent.co.uk/
"A Tory MP who is seen as a possible future leader of the party has been condemned for calling for the deportation of legally settled families in order to make the UK mostly “culturally coherent”."
Indeed, if net migration turns negative (as I think it is predicted to do), the next target will presumably be those with a right to be here.
But as I mentioned elsewhere, the result is that my daughter's best friend (a Muslim) fears that at some stage she will be forced to leave. [Post edited 19 Feb 21:44]
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:55 - Feb 19 with 379 views | BlueForYou |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:12 - Feb 19 by FrimleyBlue |
Wouldn't a uk centre in france be plausible to process asylum applications. If then people tried to bypass that..then it would be right to return them
Just seems odd that thousands can get over and processed once they've made it here.
Appreciate the ally thing but arent we just being pushovers in this relationship? Im assuming brexit was the cause of it. |
That’s what we should have done years ago, when the asylum seekers were holding lorry parks hostage & breaking into vehicles. They moved on to try the dinghy method next which has proven to be more effective. I don’t know why we didn’t round them up & initially put them in camps, feed them, make sure they were healthy, & try to work out who they actually are. If there were genuine folk, who had a profession or a trade, then help them further. Those found to be criminals or trouble makers, could be sent back or to Rwanda. The laws involved don’t help, neither do the incompetence involved. A sad mess which just goes on & on. Doesn’t make anyone proud. |  | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:59 - Feb 19 with 366 views | noggin |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:55 - Feb 19 by BlueForYou |
That’s what we should have done years ago, when the asylum seekers were holding lorry parks hostage & breaking into vehicles. They moved on to try the dinghy method next which has proven to be more effective. I don’t know why we didn’t round them up & initially put them in camps, feed them, make sure they were healthy, & try to work out who they actually are. If there were genuine folk, who had a profession or a trade, then help them further. Those found to be criminals or trouble makers, could be sent back or to Rwanda. The laws involved don’t help, neither do the incompetence involved. A sad mess which just goes on & on. Doesn’t make anyone proud. |
So only refugees with a trade should be granted asylum? |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:11 - Feb 19 with 346 views | BlueForYou |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:59 - Feb 19 by noggin |
So only refugees with a trade should be granted asylum? |
People who have a profession or trade & who can be useful to our country. Not known criminals who would be a burden. I’m no expert but that might have been a start. Isn’t that why we have an immigration system? | | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:12 - Feb 19 with 344 views | Whos_blue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 19:37 - Feb 19 by noggin |
Chico and Benters will soon be calling for HMS Victory to be put to sea again. |
England Expects. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:20 - Feb 19 with 323 views | Mullet |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:11 - Feb 19 by BlueForYou |
People who have a profession or trade & who can be useful to our country. Not known criminals who would be a burden. I’m no expert but that might have been a start. Isn’t that why we have an immigration system? |
How do you know who’s a criminal of you don’t vet them? |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:22 - Feb 19 with 314 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:20 - Feb 19 by Mullet |
How do you know who’s a criminal of you don’t vet them? |
How do they even get vetted with no documents? I cant believe everyone that comes over has a p45. Passport and driving licence in their pockets.
BTW. Genuine question. Always wondered. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:32 - Feb 19 with 292 views | JackNorthStand |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:30 - Feb 19 by The_Romford_Blue |
You realise that is totally illegal right? Or do you not care about such things? |
Politicians who are promising it and their lawyers will need to get to work then. |  | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:39 - Feb 19 with 282 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:32 - Feb 19 by JackNorthStand |
Politicians who are promising it and their lawyers will need to get to work then. |
Or they could come up with a decent and humane solution instead maybe. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:40 - Feb 19 with 282 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:55 - Feb 19 by BlueForYou |
That’s what we should have done years ago, when the asylum seekers were holding lorry parks hostage & breaking into vehicles. They moved on to try the dinghy method next which has proven to be more effective. I don’t know why we didn’t round them up & initially put them in camps, feed them, make sure they were healthy, & try to work out who they actually are. If there were genuine folk, who had a profession or a trade, then help them further. Those found to be criminals or trouble makers, could be sent back or to Rwanda. The laws involved don’t help, neither do the incompetence involved. A sad mess which just goes on & on. Doesn’t make anyone proud. |
"Put them in camps".
FFS.
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:51 - Feb 19 with 255 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:11 - Feb 19 by BlueForYou |
People who have a profession or trade & who can be useful to our country. Not known criminals who would be a burden. I’m no expert but that might have been a start. Isn’t that why we have an immigration system? |
100% right. You are no expert.
Confusing asylum seekers with economic migrants |  | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:26 - Feb 19 with 190 views | BlueForYou |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:51 - Feb 19 by reusersfreekicks |
100% right. You are no expert.
Confusing asylum seekers with economic migrants |
No one knows who they are! | | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:34 - Feb 19 with 164 views | Mullet |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:40 - Feb 19 by StokieBlue |
"Put them in camps".
FFS.
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Imagine if we went from filling hotels to filling Butlins up instead. Reform would be rubbing their hands. Once they’d brought the right one back down again of course. | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 02:48 - Feb 20 with 83 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:52 - Feb 19 by Swansea_Blue |
I’ve just had a quick scan through the last couple of pages, and I think you’re allowing yourselves to get distracted here. Intercepting or returning asylum seekers isn’t a unique feature of Restore Britain and isn’t news or worthy of discussion imo (it’s the Tory/Reform and increasingly Labour status quo position). The pertinent issue is that Restore Britain goes A LOT further on the remigration and identity issues. They believe only ethnically “indigenous” (i.e. white Anglo Saxon) and Christian people can be British. Now, where have we heard about ethnical purity before…?
Given that 37M people identify as non-Christian and 10M Brits have an ethic minority ancestral background, their position is clearly crackers as well as being racist and religiously intolerant.
It’s undoubtedly a fascist mindset. It’s a fascist as we’ve had in Parliament since Mosley (I think, although historian buffs may know better. Enoch Powell wasn’t quite as intolerant when he made his Rivers of Blood speech as he was still talking about voluntary remigration, not forced like Restore Britain members are). |
I did see they said ‘legal migration is a far bigger problem than illegal’ and it made me feel a bit sick.
They’d actually just get rid of anyone who wasn’t white if they had their wish. Nazi scum | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 04:25 - Feb 20 with 69 views | Benters |
| The split in the far-right vote on 19:37 - Feb 19 by noggin |
Chico and Benters will soon be calling for HMS Victory to be put to sea again. |
TWTD |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 04:29 - Feb 20 with 67 views | Benters |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:30 - Feb 19 by The_Romford_Blue |
You realise that is totally illegal right? Or do you not care about such things? |
But those people are entering our country illegally? Is that ok then? | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 06:00 - Feb 20 with 52 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 17:45 - Feb 19 by Herbivore |
You can't return them to France without the agreement of France. Good luck patrolling the whole channel, how are you resourcing that exactly? And how are you safely executing the transfer of people from overloaded dinghies on to a larger vessel out in the open sea?
Leaving the ECHR puts us on an equal footing with the likes of Belarus and Russia, not the kind of thing that a serious country should even be entertaining. Do you have a practical and workable solution? Because at the minute this is just Reform pipedream stuff you're suggesting and these aren't serious or credible proposals. [Post edited 19 Feb 17:59]
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I mean, you did ask. Money can always be found for this stuff so resourcing won’t be a problem especially if we don’t have to pay millions on housing welfare and legal aid for asylum seekers. It’s really easy operationally by informed accounts “not even in the top 100 most difficult problems” if we are out of the ECHR. Once we stop importing lots of men from some of the worst places in the world, perhaps we can then start banging up and deporting the ones who are part of the grooming gangs. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 06:10 - Feb 20 with 41 views | NewcyBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 06:00 - Feb 20 by chicoazul |
I mean, you did ask. Money can always be found for this stuff so resourcing won’t be a problem especially if we don’t have to pay millions on housing welfare and legal aid for asylum seekers. It’s really easy operationally by informed accounts “not even in the top 100 most difficult problems” if we are out of the ECHR. Once we stop importing lots of men from some of the worst places in the world, perhaps we can then start banging up and deporting the ones who are part of the grooming gangs. |
Marine radar isn’t that good that it picks up tiny targets. It would have to be the calmest of seas, and with somebody that knows how to set up their radar properly to even get a hint of small craft.
Plus the English Channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, it’ll be nigh on impossible to patrol safely.
Asking for Navy patrol boats to steam up and down is mental. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 06:22 - Feb 20 with 28 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:40 - Feb 19 by StokieBlue |
"Put them in camps".
FFS.
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There are literally camps for them at the moment. They’re free to come and go; they are housed at camps. | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 06:26 - Feb 20 with 24 views | Benters |
| The split in the far-right vote on 06:10 - Feb 20 by NewcyBlue |
Marine radar isn’t that good that it picks up tiny targets. It would have to be the calmest of seas, and with somebody that knows how to set up their radar properly to even get a hint of small craft.
Plus the English Channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, it’ll be nigh on impossible to patrol safely.
Asking for Navy patrol boats to steam up and down is mental. |
Is it ? I don’t think I the navy are on pedalos Pugwash  | |
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