| discrimination/abuse among town fans 23:27 - Feb 24 with 6416 views | CobboldCrusty |
just got back from Watford game, obviously a great result and a great time had
called someone out for being homophobic at the game, got repeatedly called a d1ckhead from a very angry an embarrassed man who carried on at it before later denying he'd ever mentioned Elton John's sexuality
train back a bunch of men being generally intimidating and singing songs about George Hirst hating Palestine. simply asked them why does George Hirst hate Palestine to which one of them said 'shouldn't start wars you can't win'
more and more of this weird behaviour going on at Ipswich games - witnessed a lot of this stuff in the past year where there seemed to be very little before
anyone else finding this quite depressing and a bit difficult to take? [Post edited 24 Feb 23:28]
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:11 - Feb 25 with 1391 views | billybluehat |
I heard the Elton John comment and the guy denying he ever said it is a liar and in all honestly he was a complete and utter pr*ck who was shouting absolute nonsense the whole game.
At one point he was calling Matusiwa a useless c***
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:12 - Feb 25 with 1384 views | Pinewoodblue |
While I have sympathy with the original poster not convinced calling the offenders out is the best way to proceed. Surely it would be more appropriate to report the issue, first to a Steward and then, the next day, to email the club to give Ipswich Town an opportunity to look into it provide your seat number and indicate where those responsible were located.
It is an Ipswich Town problem , it may happen elsewhere but that doesn’t change the fact that our club has a problem that needs sorting.
Seeing how difficult it is to get tickets for away games it seems reasonable to assume the perpetrators are regular away supporters. The club might consider placing ‘watchers’ in amongst fans to help identify those responsible.
Then educate or ban them. |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:19 - Feb 25 with 1351 views | Benters |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 07:38 - Feb 25 by Chris_ITFC |
Some bell*nd on the club bus shouting “let us through you nonce” and “hurry up you fat tart” at various stewards we passed near the ground.
If you’re reading this - yep, you’re a bell*nd. |
Blimey the standard of passenger has gone down hill since I last used one of those coaches,people were very well behaved and wouldn’t say boo to a goose 🪿 |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:20 - Feb 25 with 1359 views | bluethroughnthrough |
I don't usually comment on the forum but was this by chance around Row U on the left hand side? I heard a similar comment from someone around there in the first half, I wish I'd called it out but it was a quick comment - I moved seats second half. Embarrassing and depressing to see that amongst Ipswich fans, I thought we were better than that. [Post edited 25 Feb 10:21]
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:48 - Feb 25 with 1273 views | Pinewoodblue |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:20 - Feb 25 by bluethroughnthrough |
I don't usually comment on the forum but was this by chance around Row U on the left hand side? I heard a similar comment from someone around there in the first half, I wish I'd called it out but it was a quick comment - I moved seats second half. Embarrassing and depressing to see that amongst Ipswich fans, I thought we were better than that. [Post edited 25 Feb 10:21]
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:49 - Feb 25 with 1277 views | tractorshark |
I heard the George Hirst Palestine chant as we were exiting Euston afterwards.
Absolutely bizarre and clearly moronic. I suspect if I asked any of those singing it to show me where Palestine is on a map, they'd probably pick out Portsmouth.
Personally, I wouldn't trust any of them with a vote on Britain's Got Talent, let alone anything important in this country.
Just a bunch of boozed-up idiots repeating a social media soundbite in the hope of sounding edgy and clever but, ultimately, making themselves look like clueless cretins. | | | |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:52 - Feb 25 with 1260 views | CobboldCrusty |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:11 - Feb 25 by billybluehat |
I heard the Elton John comment and the guy denying he ever said it is a liar and in all honestly he was a complete and utter pr*ck who was shouting absolute nonsense the whole game.
At one point he was calling Matusiwa a useless c***
makes my blood boil |
thank you so I'm not going insane - I feel genuinely sorry for his son, it's unfair | | | |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:54 - Feb 25 with 1242 views | CobboldCrusty |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:20 - Feb 25 by bluethroughnthrough |
I don't usually comment on the forum but was this by chance around Row U on the left hand side? I heard a similar comment from someone around there in the first half, I wish I'd called it out but it was a quick comment - I moved seats second half. Embarrassing and depressing to see that amongst Ipswich fans, I thought we were better than that. [Post edited 25 Feb 10:21]
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it actually wasn't but shows it's not just one or two idiots | | | |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:56 - Feb 25 with 1222 views | Blueschev |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:49 - Feb 25 by tractorshark |
I heard the George Hirst Palestine chant as we were exiting Euston afterwards.
Absolutely bizarre and clearly moronic. I suspect if I asked any of those singing it to show me where Palestine is on a map, they'd probably pick out Portsmouth.
Personally, I wouldn't trust any of them with a vote on Britain's Got Talent, let alone anything important in this country.
Just a bunch of boozed-up idiots repeating a social media soundbite in the hope of sounding edgy and clever but, ultimately, making themselves look like clueless cretins. |
I think you underestimate them. They are, after all, part of the Democratic Football Lads Alliance. |  | | |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 10:58 - Feb 25 with 1206 views | Mullet |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 09:01 - Feb 25 by GlasgowBlue |
You may have also noticed this but a lot of the racist or homophobic stuff seems to be coming from a very young part of our fanbase. Not the old racists stuck in the the 70's and 80's but from a generation we would hope to be far more tolerant and understanding as they have grown up in a multicultural country which far more progressive views on sexuality. |
Possibly, but I also think it’s a definite subset of that generation who are desperately trying to be something they’re not.
Same as my generation and the plastic hooligans who watched green street and all thought they were “lads” etc by playing at it.
I also think VT is right and that tolerating users on here who are frequently racist, supportive of racism and implied discrimination is a problem. |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 11:00 - Feb 25 with 1199 views | SitfcB |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 08:52 - Feb 25 by Reuser_is_God |
It may just be me but since the point system was introduced I don’t recognise half the people I see when I go to away games these days.
Before when tickets were bit of a free for all I’d probably recognise about 80% of faces on an away day.
Where has this new breed come from? |
The issue is we’re getting older meaning newer people have come/are coming through the ranks  |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 11:11 - Feb 25 with 1121 views | Reuser_is_God |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 11:00 - Feb 25 by SitfcB |
The issue is we’re getting older meaning newer people have come/are coming through the ranks |
But it’s even people our sort of age I barely recognise too. |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 11:40 - Feb 25 with 1035 views | SitfcB |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 11:11 - Feb 25 by Reuser_is_God |
But it’s even people our sort of age I barely recognise too. |
A lot definitely jumped on the bandwagon after the League 1 promotion, maybe even half way through when things were looking good, it was possible to build up a good points haul.
They will drop away again at some point I guess. | |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 13:55 - Feb 25 with 875 views | ZedRodgers |
I confronted them outside Euston. As well as Hirst/Palestine, they were also singing something which I couldn't make out entirely, but included the words "from the river to the sea, *indeterminable* will be Abdul-free", and "on the charge with Farage".
To my surprise, only 2 of the group of 15 or so were interested in any kind of physical settling of differences, despite all the fancy dress and cocaine-fuelled bravado. Needless to say, I had the last laugh. And I'll have further laughs once I've completed my enquiries, or perhaps at Hillsborough (I'll assume they won't be at Stoke). |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:01 - Feb 25 with 760 views | tommcd |
No specific -ism or -phobia tone, but there was a chap near me lsast night who spent to whole of the match pretty match yelling, on repeat, something pretty much matching the pattern:
<insert player name> you F'in C, you're <insert expletive laden phrase suggesting they're not very good>, learn how to <something to improve>
The loop continued throughout 1-0, only calmed down fully at 2-0. Plenty of bewildered looks from other nearby toward the chap. I'm convinced I'm hearing that kind of thing more and more often, particularly at away matches. I just can't understand what anyone thinks it achieves (even if the players could hear the individual messages, which hopefully they can't). [Post edited 25 Feb 15:02]
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:10 - Feb 25 with 724 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 23:29 - Feb 24 by ashtonscoffeecup |
sorry..... why does George Hirst hate Palestine to which one of them said 'shouldn't start wars you can't win'
i mean, what? |
He doesn’t. It’s just a copy of a Leeds song… which makes it even worse. Granted the context of the Leeds song / player makes more sense (Still horrendous thought), for Hirst it makes them look like absolute tools for signing it.
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:14 - Feb 25 with 694 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:01 - Feb 25 by tommcd |
No specific -ism or -phobia tone, but there was a chap near me lsast night who spent to whole of the match pretty match yelling, on repeat, something pretty much matching the pattern:
<insert player name> you F'in C, you're <insert expletive laden phrase suggesting they're not very good>, learn how to <something to improve>
The loop continued throughout 1-0, only calmed down fully at 2-0. Plenty of bewildered looks from other nearby toward the chap. I'm convinced I'm hearing that kind of thing more and more often, particularly at away matches. I just can't understand what anyone thinks it achieves (even if the players could hear the individual messages, which hopefully they can't). [Post edited 25 Feb 15:02]
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Reading some if these experience's make me glad I ront have the time or inclination to go to games anymore.
Travelling with Ipswich fans all over the country previously was good fun, seeing people every other week that you only ever saw on away days but spoke and acted like your best mate.
Those were the days! |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:16 - Feb 25 with 676 views | Benters |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:10 - Feb 25 by Matt_Netherlands |
He doesn’t. It’s just a copy of a Leeds song… which makes it even worse. Granted the context of the Leeds song / player makes more sense (Still horrendous thought), for Hirst it makes them look like absolute tools for signing it.
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:19 - Feb 25 with 651 views | DJR |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:10 - Feb 25 by Matt_Netherlands |
He doesn’t. It’s just a copy of a Leeds song… which makes it even worse. Granted the context of the Leeds song / player makes more sense (Still horrendous thought), for Hirst it makes them look like absolute tools for signing it.
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Was that the song that a lot in the ground were singing for Hirst yesterday?
I must admit I struggle to understand the words of many of these newer songs which just seem a bit over-complicated for me.
But maybe some people pick up the lyrics online.
As an aside, it was nice to see the Waka Waka song make a comeback, for maybe the second time this season. [Post edited 25 Feb 15:24]
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:30 - Feb 25 with 619 views | Central_Blue |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 09:29 - Feb 25 by jaseitfc2015 |
Call me a contrarian but I actually really like this 25/26 team |
With you 100% there. You’ve got:
- Walton and Leif from L1 days
- Furlong, our very own sh1+house
- Dara, who never backs down from anyone, gave THAT speech, and led us to our first derby win in x number of years after it
- Kipre, monster in both boxes
- Azor, who wins every 50/50, 40/60, and most 30/70s, as well as being smiley and the Dutch player we’ve been crying out for for years
- Taylor, improved a lot this year and another one who’ll run through brick walls for his teammates
- JP/Clarke, top scoring, game changers
- Wes, is just Wes. Another L1 star, who’s somehow managed to comeback from an ACL injury better than before
- Hirst, he’s had a tough time this season, but he’s got so much credit in the bank, it really shouldn’t matter
- Azon, improving all the time, gives everything, and doesn’t seem to lack rapport with the fans
How anyone can say these fellas aren’t relatable, I really don’t know. No disrespect meant to those not listed above either. They’ve all given us moments this season and no doubt they’ll give us more. I like them all. |  | | |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 15:31 - Feb 25 with 614 views | Swansea_Blue |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 23:50 - Feb 24 by IP9 |
This is a general reflection on society as a whole and imo has nothing to do with just 'ipswich town fans' - you can find comments and articles like this at every ground after every game in the last few seasons (not trying to justify it, but it's not an ipswich town problem). The rise of Reform will only empower certain portions of our population, which are potentially more condescend in football culture hence why you're feeling like you're seeing more of it... |
Agreed that this seems to be a wider cultural (or lack of!) problem. So we know the causes are not unique to us, but I also agree with the others that it becomes our problem when it’s our fans. We remaining fans and the club have a responsibility to tackle it. Fans can either speak out or report it and generally let others know on social media that it’s not acceptable and just makes us look bad. The club can obviously go further with warnings and bans.
I suspect you’re right that we’ll see it become more common as politicians play to this type of audience, sadly. |  |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 18:42 - Feb 25 with 388 views | armchaircritic59 |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 09:01 - Feb 25 by GlasgowBlue |
You may have also noticed this but a lot of the racist or homophobic stuff seems to be coming from a very young part of our fanbase. Not the old racists stuck in the the 70's and 80's but from a generation we would hope to be far more tolerant and understanding as they have grown up in a multicultural country which far more progressive views on sexuality. |
The problem as I see it is, it's handed down to them by their parents who in turn have it handed down to them etc. Unfortunately we seem to breed a certain percentage of people who are too thick to think for themselves. | | | |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 18:57 - Feb 25 with 356 views | TheBoyBlue |
Sadly it seems to be an attitude in society generally. Truly awful views are being normalised in politics, on social media and in the mainstream media. | |
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| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 19:00 - Feb 25 with 350 views | HighgateBlue |
Idiots gonna idiot I suppose.
The strange thing is, with opinion regarding Hirst as it is currently, I can't tell whether the morons shouting that were (a) expressing solidarity with Palestine, (b) expressing purported hatred of Palestine, or (c) clueless as to what or where Palestine is, but just shouting some stupid beered-up slogan.
As for the homophobia, I am genuinely heartened and optimistic that the tide on this is only going one way, and people shouting homophobic slurs are so obviously in a backward minority that are on the wrong side of history. Shame on them. And hopefully: education on them!
Well done for calling it out.
And Elton John is an absolute dude, even if his football team do wear yellow! |  | | |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 19:29 - Feb 25 with 302 views | CobboldCrusty |
| discrimination/abuse among town fans on 19:00 - Feb 25 by HighgateBlue |
Idiots gonna idiot I suppose.
The strange thing is, with opinion regarding Hirst as it is currently, I can't tell whether the morons shouting that were (a) expressing solidarity with Palestine, (b) expressing purported hatred of Palestine, or (c) clueless as to what or where Palestine is, but just shouting some stupid beered-up slogan.
As for the homophobia, I am genuinely heartened and optimistic that the tide on this is only going one way, and people shouting homophobic slurs are so obviously in a backward minority that are on the wrong side of history. Shame on them. And hopefully: education on them!
Well done for calling it out.
And Elton John is an absolute dude, even if his football team do wear yellow! |
oh I think they were expressing anti-Palestine sentiment
thought about asking them what makes them feel this way but tbh you wouldn't have wanted a punch off one or two of these guys and they look like they might've been happy to deal it out
agree re homophobia, he even said at half time 'how can I be homophobic, I'm friends with one of them'
if he shows me up by bringing said friend to sheffield wednesday I'll gladly eat a humble pukka pie | | | |
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