| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! 21:44 - Mar 3 with 4064 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Every man did their job.
Superb. |  |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:21 - Mar 4 with 520 views | stonojnr |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:48 - Mar 3 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That one shot was on target forcing an unbelievable save and he hit the rebound on to the post. |
Keeper made a great save, but why did he hit the ball more centrally so the keeper could get there ?not just straight ahead in the big gaping hole in the corner
But whatever, it happens if that was the only flaw in 90mins, we'd have had said he had a great game.
But it wasnt, multiple times all game he passed the ball straight to a Hull player, in dangerous positions, in the last 15mins when we're under pressure he kept trying to dribble out the box when he should have been punting it up field, even Nunez got that memo. Even when he managed to pass to a player in blue, he often took the wrong option, he'd pass to Greaves to the wing when Greaves often couldn't then do anything with it, and the move ended, when he should have crossed or taken a shot himself, its like once fine, twice ok, third time seriously learn from it. He's also done this in both recent games taken the ball on the left and just dribbled across the whole width of the box and then lost the ball and there seemed no end product he was trying for. He had two players to pick from in another example one was offside who was trying not to get flagged but stay involved enough with the move and another who was onside and would have been clear to attack the goal. He picked the offside player.
You might say all minor things, we still won etc etc, and I dont normally criticise players too strongly, we're allowed to have an off day, but he was annoying the hell out of me with his poor decision making last night. I dont think he had a good game at all. |  | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:24 - Mar 4 with 515 views | franz_tyson |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 23:51 - Mar 3 by reusersfreekicks |
Agree with this re Clarke and Neil.
Plus feel sorry for Egeli - just not working with him in the team at the moment |
Agree about Egeli. Some don't like this being mentioned as they say we need to be patient with a 19 year old, but he seems to be regressing. Playing more and more within himself. I know he scored last week and that should give him a boost, but he seems devoid of confidence and can't even contemplate taking on the full back on the outside. I so hope he's getting some coaching on this. It's slows everything down when we receive the ball wide. Just the time it takes for him to check inside and pass it inside ruins any momentum. Or the crosses he puts in from deep when he cuts in which gets cleared. Feel for him, but it's the business end of the season and I think I'd go with McAteer instead of him. I've heard the excuse that he's playing out of position, but he's never going to be a 10 for a while. Needs to work on using the width and getting crosses in with his right foot.
Maybe harsh as we've won the last two he's started, but he doesn't seem to be getting better and as soon as he gets the ball we slow right down. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:33 - Mar 4 with 472 views | Vic |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 23:31 - Mar 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Why does amount of running declare how good a performance was?
He had 1 successful dribble out of 7 ( based on the same stat site you used
6/13 ground duals won
4 passes into the final third
For all that running
1 tackle
2 recoveries
I completely agree he ran around a lot. Hull also had a good shape about them.
But I dont honestly see what was impressive about tonight other than a good amount of running.
And in no way should you not hit this into the bottom or even top corner
And then hits the post. The first shot i think he hits it with the side of his left heel
So the first one was a sitter. Even the 2nd one was more of a sitter as the keeper was on the floor
Really dont want this to sound boo hiss etc its reallt not meant too. Just dont see what some others have tonight [Post edited 3 Mar 23:45]
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Frimmers - watch the 'miss' carefully. He's just run 50yrds at full speed (fantastic driving run) and the ball across doesn't quite match his stride so he has to improvise and go with his left as his right is already in the air for the next step. Note the ground covered by the GK - no way would I expect Clarke to anticipate the amount of ground he covered to cover the shot. It was a fantastic piece of goalkeeping. The fact that Clarke was able to even connect with the rebound is, I think remarkable.
IMO the key to all this is the speed that it happened in real time. It was incredibly fast and I think to criticise Clarke is unfair, and ignores the quality of the save. |  |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:39 - Mar 4 with 461 views | Vic |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:21 - Mar 4 by stonojnr |
Keeper made a great save, but why did he hit the ball more centrally so the keeper could get there ?not just straight ahead in the big gaping hole in the corner
But whatever, it happens if that was the only flaw in 90mins, we'd have had said he had a great game.
But it wasnt, multiple times all game he passed the ball straight to a Hull player, in dangerous positions, in the last 15mins when we're under pressure he kept trying to dribble out the box when he should have been punting it up field, even Nunez got that memo. Even when he managed to pass to a player in blue, he often took the wrong option, he'd pass to Greaves to the wing when Greaves often couldn't then do anything with it, and the move ended, when he should have crossed or taken a shot himself, its like once fine, twice ok, third time seriously learn from it. He's also done this in both recent games taken the ball on the left and just dribbled across the whole width of the box and then lost the ball and there seemed no end product he was trying for. He had two players to pick from in another example one was offside who was trying not to get flagged but stay involved enough with the move and another who was onside and would have been clear to attack the goal. He picked the offside player.
You might say all minor things, we still won etc etc, and I dont normally criticise players too strongly, we're allowed to have an off day, but he was annoying the hell out of me with his poor decision making last night. I dont think he had a good game at all. |
As posted above - I think with the speed he was running and the way the cross fell (just slightly behind his stride) he didn't have a chance to adjust to place it off his wrong foots heal. It was a golden chance, but not the straightforward connection it first appeared. | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:45 - Mar 4 with 453 views | mrshallisfit |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:02 - Mar 4 by MattinLondon |
Mongs! Really?
Some comments are best left in the 80s. |
Looking at the general membership of MAGA and Reform I think M#ng should make a return and be used in its full pomp and swagger. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 14:25 - Mar 4 with 412 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:39 - Mar 4 by Vic |
As posted above - I think with the speed he was running and the way the cross fell (just slightly behind his stride) he didn't have a chance to adjust to place it off his wrong foots heal. It was a golden chance, but not the straightforward connection it first appeared. |
Just one of those wed simply just have to agree to disagree on.
He purposefully uses his left foot as hed shaped his body to do so. It then hit the back of his foot just by the heel. The follow up then hits the posts and then the keepers foot on the way across. It defo is a poor finish made by his body shape and desire to use his left foot over his right.
But... we won so thankfully didnt cost us. |  |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 15:01 - Mar 4 with 365 views | TractorClarke |
This is a really bad take, until Azro scored i would have said he could have had man of the match. I also though before Azor scored he was not having a great game until that point, was getting caught in possession a lot and passing wasnt great, although you could say that about a few to be honest.
If anything i would say out of the bunch Greaves was not particularly great, i think the pressure of the old club and the boos from them maybe got to him, and Egeli was really poor i thought.
On the subject of Egeli he is just so easy to read, playing on the wing but only ever wants to cut in, and then he gets the ball taken off of him as he doesnt have the foot work of a Clarke to beat the players. I want to see him run down the line and put a cross in, the few times he did that int he game we got a corner from it.
To add to other peoples points i really think you have dug the wrong player out on this occasion. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 15:06 - Mar 4 with 358 views | RadioOrwell |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 14:25 - Mar 4 by FrimleyBlue |
Just one of those wed simply just have to agree to disagree on.
He purposefully uses his left foot as hed shaped his body to do so. It then hit the back of his foot just by the heel. The follow up then hits the posts and then the keepers foot on the way across. It defo is a poor finish made by his body shape and desire to use his left foot over his right.
But... we won so thankfully didnt cost us. |
Yes he mis-hit it.
Wrong part of the foot.
The rebound was instinct and was unlucky. |  | | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 16:30 - Mar 4 with 320 views | HighgateBlue |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:01 - Mar 4 by DJR |
My view is that Clarke has been our best attacking player overall this season, just shading it ahead of Philogene.
And whilst he wasn't maybe so effective in the first half, the game changed and opened up in the second half in my view largely due to him. |
I would agree, although Mehmeti has made a hell of a start to his Town career, and may well be our most effective attacking player of the second half of the season.
Clarke missed a really good chance. He's scored a hell of a lot of them. No attacking player is going to score from every chance, and the stats say that Clarke has done better than most in terms of shots on target, and actual goals, which kinda matter in football. I've also been impressed with his work rate this season, and tracking back. He's not a natural defender, but he puts in the effort and has actually saved us on occasion. Also effective in clearing our lines at one point last night when he held onto the ball for just long enough to ensure he could make the right pass rather than hoof clear.
And I don't actually think his miss was /that/ bad. He tried to finish instinctively, it seems to me. I don't think it was an arrogant or lazy attempt like some say. I think he tried to stab at it and get something on it as soon as possible, to get the shot on target and stop the keeper from having a good chance to get across. It didn't come off. But if he'd put his laces through it, it could easily have skewed off at the wrong angle. Plenty of our attackers fail to hit the target with shots, and I really think he's one of the very least culpable. His superior penalty record to Hirst supports that view. (Hirst being our other penalty taker and hence a comparator, rather than someone I'm deliberately singling out because I want to have a go...). |  | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 16:55 - Mar 4 with 287 views | DJR |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 16:30 - Mar 4 by HighgateBlue |
I would agree, although Mehmeti has made a hell of a start to his Town career, and may well be our most effective attacking player of the second half of the season.
Clarke missed a really good chance. He's scored a hell of a lot of them. No attacking player is going to score from every chance, and the stats say that Clarke has done better than most in terms of shots on target, and actual goals, which kinda matter in football. I've also been impressed with his work rate this season, and tracking back. He's not a natural defender, but he puts in the effort and has actually saved us on occasion. Also effective in clearing our lines at one point last night when he held onto the ball for just long enough to ensure he could make the right pass rather than hoof clear.
And I don't actually think his miss was /that/ bad. He tried to finish instinctively, it seems to me. I don't think it was an arrogant or lazy attempt like some say. I think he tried to stab at it and get something on it as soon as possible, to get the shot on target and stop the keeper from having a good chance to get across. It didn't come off. But if he'd put his laces through it, it could easily have skewed off at the wrong angle. Plenty of our attackers fail to hit the target with shots, and I really think he's one of the very least culpable. His superior penalty record to Hirst supports that view. (Hirst being our other penalty taker and hence a comparator, rather than someone I'm deliberately singling out because I want to have a go...). |
You may well be right about Mehmeti. As it is, he is second in the league for goals and assists.
But Clarke ranks highly on a lot of metrics according to FotMob.
https://www.fotmob.com/players |  | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 17:14 - Mar 4 with 269 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 15:01 - Mar 4 by TractorClarke |
This is a really bad take, until Azro scored i would have said he could have had man of the match. I also though before Azor scored he was not having a great game until that point, was getting caught in possession a lot and passing wasnt great, although you could say that about a few to be honest.
If anything i would say out of the bunch Greaves was not particularly great, i think the pressure of the old club and the boos from them maybe got to him, and Egeli was really poor i thought.
On the subject of Egeli he is just so easy to read, playing on the wing but only ever wants to cut in, and then he gets the ball taken off of him as he doesnt have the foot work of a Clarke to beat the players. I want to see him run down the line and put a cross in, the few times he did that int he game we got a corner from it.
To add to other peoples points i really think you have dug the wrong player out on this occasion. |
Nope not for me, as a lot have said on here and the ratings show, he was way off it last night.
But hey, it’s one game, he’s been awesome all season! | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 17:56 - Mar 4 with 230 views | tractor_lady |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:49 - Mar 3 by StokieBlue |
I thought his second half was poor. Held into the ball far too long and just dribbled into blind alleys. Ignored runs from Davis in favour of dribbling and getting tackled and also dribbling in our own box.
The finish was awful.
A divisive opinion I imagine but I found him incredibly frustrating.
He did track back well.
He's not always like that, just found him that way tonight.
Doesn't matter in the end though, 3 points is the important thing.
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Exactly this... clearly has skill but rather than shoot he often takes one touch too many and is dispossessed and other times a pass is clearly the best option and he holds onto the ball.... Iron those bits out and he is a good little player but without the occasional brilliance Philogene brings | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 17:58 - Mar 4 with 224 views | DavoIPB |
Disagree with almost all the comments on here. Thought he was very poor all game. Lost the ball almost every time then fouled the opposition. Not sure he got past their right back once. Not one good cross and gave the ball away on the edge of our area more than once. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 18:26 - Mar 4 with 197 views | Bluesky |
Don’t be mean. It was a team performance. He played his part. |  | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 19:07 - Mar 4 with 170 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 12:40 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Looks like we have a new scapegoat. Quite remarkable considering he's our leading goal scorer. |
Ah yes, a faction of our supporters love a good scapegoat. Muric, Philogene, Jack Clarke ( first time round ), Kasey McAteer, and now JC back again, for working his butt off, but missing a simple chance in a game we won. Clubs top scorer, penalty king etc. Some are worse than extremely hard to please. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 19:48 - Mar 4 with 148 views | farkenhell |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 19:07 - Mar 4 by armchaircritic59 |
Ah yes, a faction of our supporters love a good scapegoat. Muric, Philogene, Jack Clarke ( first time round ), Kasey McAteer, and now JC back again, for working his butt off, but missing a simple chance in a game we won. Clubs top scorer, penalty king etc. Some are worse than extremely hard to please. |
Don't exaggerate. Nobody has scapegoated Jack Clarke on this thread. A number, including me, have pointed out that last night wasn't his best game for us. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 20:24 - Mar 4 with 129 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 12:40 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Looks like we have a new scapegoat. Quite remarkable considering he's our leading goal scorer. |
A scapegoat?! What a very odd take!
As I’ve said a million times on here now, he’s been exceptional this season, last night he was not.
It’s a simple as that.
Understand? | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 20:33 - Mar 4 with 109 views | MattinLondon |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:45 - Mar 4 by mrshallisfit |
Looking at the general membership of MAGA and Reform I think M#ng should make a return and be used in its full pomp and swagger. |
It’s a word used to disparage and mock people with Down’s syndrome. It’s akin to calling someone a sp***ic.
There are so many words which you can use which are not offensive. |  | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:14 - Mar 4 with 81 views | blueislander |
So glad we have a new TWTD Scapegoat. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:24 - Mar 4 with 71 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 13:33 - Mar 4 by Vic |
Frimmers - watch the 'miss' carefully. He's just run 50yrds at full speed (fantastic driving run) and the ball across doesn't quite match his stride so he has to improvise and go with his left as his right is already in the air for the next step. Note the ground covered by the GK - no way would I expect Clarke to anticipate the amount of ground he covered to cover the shot. It was a fantastic piece of goalkeeping. The fact that Clarke was able to even connect with the rebound is, I think remarkable.
IMO the key to all this is the speed that it happened in real time. It was incredibly fast and I think to criticise Clarke is unfair, and ignores the quality of the save. |
I appreciate the effort, but it was a shocking miss. There’s only one place he could have put that where the keeper has a chance of making the save. 99/100 times a professional (and probably amateur) player buries that, including Clarke. They’re used to dealing with speed. |  |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:40 - Mar 4 with 59 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:14 - Mar 4 by blueislander |
So glad we have a new TWTD Scapegoat. |
If you think Clarke is a scapegoat, you’re delusional!
One poor game, he’s been amazing all season! | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:44 - Mar 4 with 55 views | blueislander |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:40 - Mar 4 by Wallingford_Boy |
If you think Clarke is a scapegoat, you’re delusional!
One poor game, he’s been amazing all season! |
Plenty of posts agreeing with your op. | | | |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:46 - Mar 4 with 49 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:40 - Mar 4 by Wallingford_Boy |
If you think Clarke is a scapegoat, you’re delusional!
One poor game, he’s been amazing all season! |
I don't get the word scapegoat
Surely scapegoat can only be used IF your side failed to win and the negativity about a player is making it out like they were a reason for the failure of the win | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:58 - Mar 4 with 36 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:44 - Mar 4 by blueislander |
Plenty of posts agreeing with your op. |
Exactly!
One swallow doth not make a summer dear boy. | |
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| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 22:00 - Mar 4 with 32 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Clarke aside, that’s a great team performance! on 21:46 - Mar 4 by FrimleyBlue |
I don't get the word scapegoat
Surely scapegoat can only be used IF your side failed to win and the negativity about a player is making it out like they were a reason for the failure of the win |
Exactly this!
Thank you Frimmers!
It’s getting a bit dull justifying my perfectly reasonable post, but he had one poor game, we won, we played well, it’s a good thing! There is no scapegoat.
And it’s not someone who has been one of our better players this season! | |
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