| Phil - just out of interest 07:57 - Mar 25 with 3724 views | Keno |
have any of the main club sponsors, US backers or footballing staff been contacted for their views on recent events?
the only short pictures seem to show the back of the shirt
is that cos Halo didnt want to be associated wiith it? |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:00 - Mar 25 with 3013 views | GlasgowBlue |
I would imagine it’s because the back of the shirt has Farage’s name on it, which is all he cares about. The photos of him in the press room have the sponsors names plastered all of them. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:07 - Mar 25 with 2945 views | Keno |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:00 - Mar 25 by GlasgowBlue |
I would imagine it’s because the back of the shirt has Farage’s name on it, which is all he cares about. The photos of him in the press room have the sponsors names plastered all of them. |
This is where you just wonder how those sponsors feel about it
would be interested to know | |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:08 - Mar 25 with 2913 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:07 - Mar 25 by Keno |
This is where you just wonder how those sponsors feel about it
would be interested to know |
I would imagine there have been some very robust conversations between the sponsors and the club. | |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:10 - Mar 25 with 2886 views | Kev_W |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:07 - Mar 25 by Keno |
This is where you just wonder how those sponsors feel about it
would be interested to know |
I would be extremely surprised if the sponsors have not had words and sought reassurances from the club. There are not many companies that would view Monday's debacle as positive brand building. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:17 - Mar 25 with 2793 views | bluelagos |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:10 - Mar 25 by Kev_W |
I would be extremely surprised if the sponsors have not had words and sought reassurances from the club. There are not many companies that would view Monday's debacle as positive brand building. |
"Halo, halo, we are the Farage boys" not quite the recruitment tonic they expected when signing up I suspect.
Serious point, the sponsors may well be very unhappy and it could be what pushes the club to a proper apology. I'd be amazed if any of them are happy. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:24 - Mar 25 with 2731 views | Keno |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:17 - Mar 25 by bluelagos |
"Halo, halo, we are the Farage boys" not quite the recruitment tonic they expected when signing up I suspect.
Serious point, the sponsors may well be very unhappy and it could be what pushes the club to a proper apology. I'd be amazed if any of them are happy. |
This was what I was wondering
would like to see some comment from them | |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:28 - Mar 25 with 2695 views | bluebud |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:08 - Mar 25 by GlasgowBlue |
I would imagine there have been some very robust conversations between the sponsors and the club. |
There should be but I doubt it. Sponsors, companies, clubs and people are positioning themselves to deal with Reform with the reasonable chance they will be in power next.
Exactly the same happened in the US with trump and happens in countries all around the world.
If lets say 50% of the population votes for them then there's a very good chance that sponsors and everyone else may back them openly or secretly at the moment. There are a lot of people on here pretending to be offended but are lying through their teeth and secretly want them in power. it's why polls are so unreliable and that whatever the polls say in the next GE then the right will receive 3-7% more than is estimated. |  | | |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 08:53 - Mar 25 with 2468 views | E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
Have you seen the profile of your average Farage protester? Not the sharpest tool in the box, and that is being generous.
Successful companies run by clever people will have a much more balanced outlook on the situation whatever their political persuasion, just the same as ITFC in fact. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:57 - Mar 25 with 2427 views | itfcjoe |
In the EADT article they say they have approached them but not heard back
"Birketts, one of the club's sponsors whose logo appears in the background of one of Farage's pictures, declined to comment at the moment, with other local companies Fleximize, HALO and MSC also being approached." |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 09:00 - Mar 25 with 2360 views | muccletonjoe |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:53 - Mar 25 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
Have you seen the profile of your average Farage protester? Not the sharpest tool in the box, and that is being generous.
Successful companies run by clever people will have a much more balanced outlook on the situation whatever their political persuasion, just the same as ITFC in fact. |
That should read "farage supporter" |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:10 - Mar 25 with 2309 views | PhilTWTD |
I doubt they want to involve themselves publicly but I hear whispers that sponsors aren't impressed and I'm sure will have made that clear to the club. Not sure there were any sensitivities shown towards Halo in the manner you suggest might have been the case, think it was just that the back of the shirt was what had the name on it. Either way they're going to be indirectly associated, of course, which you'd imagine they'd not be particularly chuffed with. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:21 - Mar 25 with 2190 views | lowhouseblue |
if you sponsor a football shirt with the intention that replicas will be sold to the public that comes with knowing that anyone from trump to the current ayatollah could be photographed wearing it. it's a risk which is inherent to the marketing strategy. just like shops can't control who carries their bags. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 09:24 - Mar 25 with 2136 views | CastroSito |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:21 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
if you sponsor a football shirt with the intention that replicas will be sold to the public that comes with knowing that anyone from trump to the current ayatollah could be photographed wearing it. it's a risk which is inherent to the marketing strategy. just like shops can't control who carries their bags. |
er, the sponsors can't control Joe Bloggs wearing their logo spouting shit, but they can reasonably expect the club not to facilitate it being used in a political broadcast. | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:31 - Mar 25 with 2043 views | lowhouseblue |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:24 - Mar 25 by CastroSito |
er, the sponsors can't control Joe Bloggs wearing their logo spouting shit, but they can reasonably expect the club not to facilitate it being used in a political broadcast. |
then the club should make the restrictions on how photos and video are used a condition of their stadium tours. if they don't have that condition then they can't just impose it on one politician that you don't like. equally if they don't restrict who can go on the stadium tour they can't just discriminate against people who are unpopular on here.
if you let everyone have their photo taken in front of the sponsor board etc, then i guess this is the risk you take (the club is now very much aware of that risk even if it wasn't before). | |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 09:31 - Mar 25 with 2040 views | EddyJ |
When we started this, did we ever think we'd have a partnership with Nigel Farage? Absolutely not. This is beyond our wildest dreams. | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:36 - Mar 25 with 1948 views | JohnTy |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:28 - Mar 25 by bluebud |
There should be but I doubt it. Sponsors, companies, clubs and people are positioning themselves to deal with Reform with the reasonable chance they will be in power next.
Exactly the same happened in the US with trump and happens in countries all around the world.
If lets say 50% of the population votes for them then there's a very good chance that sponsors and everyone else may back them openly or secretly at the moment. There are a lot of people on here pretending to be offended but are lying through their teeth and secretly want them in power. it's why polls are so unreliable and that whatever the polls say in the next GE then the right will receive 3-7% more than is estimated. |
You're having a laugh.
It looks unlikely that they will get even 30%. They peaked too soon. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:38 - Mar 25 with 1905 views | CastroSito |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:31 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
then the club should make the restrictions on how photos and video are used a condition of their stadium tours. if they don't have that condition then they can't just impose it on one politician that you don't like. equally if they don't restrict who can go on the stadium tour they can't just discriminate against people who are unpopular on here.
if you let everyone have their photo taken in front of the sponsor board etc, then i guess this is the risk you take (the club is now very much aware of that risk even if it wasn't before). |
"then the club should make the restrictions on how photos and video are used a condition of their stadium tours."
Yes, yes they should. | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:41 - Mar 25 with 1847 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:31 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
then the club should make the restrictions on how photos and video are used a condition of their stadium tours. if they don't have that condition then they can't just impose it on one politician that you don't like. equally if they don't restrict who can go on the stadium tour they can't just discriminate against people who are unpopular on here.
if you let everyone have their photo taken in front of the sponsor board etc, then i guess this is the risk you take (the club is now very much aware of that risk even if it wasn't before). |
It is written in the clubs policies.
The club provided approval for them to use the images for commercial activity. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 09:42 - Mar 25 with 1822 views | Guthrum |
| Phil - just out of interest on 08:28 - Mar 25 by bluebud |
There should be but I doubt it. Sponsors, companies, clubs and people are positioning themselves to deal with Reform with the reasonable chance they will be in power next.
Exactly the same happened in the US with trump and happens in countries all around the world.
If lets say 50% of the population votes for them then there's a very good chance that sponsors and everyone else may back them openly or secretly at the moment. There are a lot of people on here pretending to be offended but are lying through their teeth and secretly want them in power. it's why polls are so unreliable and that whatever the polls say in the next GE then the right will receive 3-7% more than is estimated. |
However, the last thing they will want (but Reform does) is all that being driven out into the open by a stunt such as this.
Farage wants to sow division, because that stokes his core support and the strength of reaction causes offence to people who were wavering.
On a side note, even adding 7% to current polling results is unlikely to give Reform an outright majority in a General Election. At best, they might be the largest party. More probable is a genuine hung parliament, with a viable minority government (even if not an outright coalition) more accessible to a combination of the centre and left. I still doubt the Conservatives will bind themselves to Reform (certainly as junior member of a coalition), as it will mean their effective extinction. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 09:45 - Mar 25 with 1770 views | lowhouseblue |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:41 - Mar 25 by FrimleyBlue |
It is written in the clubs policies.
The club provided approval for them to use the images for commercial activity. |
do you have a link? does it only say "commercial"? | |
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| Phil - just out of interest on 09:46 - Mar 25 with 1771 views | PhilTWTD |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:38 - Mar 25 by CastroSito |
"then the club should make the restrictions on how photos and video are used a condition of their stadium tours."
Yes, yes they should. |
You see photos of people on tours over social media in the manager's seat in the press conference room, in the dressing room etc, that's part of the fun of the tour. I think the issue was allowing social media access to a political party, who would then use images/video in the manner they have, even more so one whose values are very much at odds to those the club promotes. | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:51 - Mar 25 with 1706 views | grow_our_own |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:46 - Mar 25 by PhilTWTD |
You see photos of people on tours over social media in the manager's seat in the press conference room, in the dressing room etc, that's part of the fun of the tour. I think the issue was allowing social media access to a political party, who would then use images/video in the manner they have, even more so one whose values are very much at odds to those the club promotes. |
No, the issue was hosting any political party. Period. Having such a policy really isn't complicated. | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 10:09 - Mar 25 with 1543 views | darkhorse28 |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:42 - Mar 25 by Guthrum |
However, the last thing they will want (but Reform does) is all that being driven out into the open by a stunt such as this.
Farage wants to sow division, because that stokes his core support and the strength of reaction causes offence to people who were wavering.
On a side note, even adding 7% to current polling results is unlikely to give Reform an outright majority in a General Election. At best, they might be the largest party. More probable is a genuine hung parliament, with a viable minority government (even if not an outright coalition) more accessible to a combination of the centre and left. I still doubt the Conservatives will bind themselves to Reform (certainly as junior member of a coalition), as it will mean their effective extinction. |
The Nazis started with a Democratic minority government. Obviously not conflating the two.
I think there’s zero chance our Nige will get more votes than Rupert Lowe, I’d bet my mortgage on that.., Lowe isn’t a low IQ tub thumper - Restore will wipe the floor with him, and I think he knows it.
He fascinates me, he looked genuinely terrified when he won the Brexit vote, and that’s why he was in the first plane out of the UK…., he’s like Corbyn in SO many ways.
They like to protest, and be angry, because it’s low rent. Easy politics, you don’t need to think, you don’t need to solve problems, it’s like a student protest, and they both lack th intelligence. The nuance or the gravitas to solve what are often complex issues.
Not that we have many or possibly even any politicians that seem to have this capacity. Great leadership is hard to find.
I think this is why Trump is so popular. Like him, loath him, agree or disagree, he doesn’t mess around. He has policies and ideas, and brings them to life, he’s a conviction politician who gets things done in a world of sociopaths who signal their virtue and largely do the opposite …, across the political divide.
Lowe is Farages kryptonite - clearly bribed in doing things not talking about them …, that will resonate with that side of the political spectrum very well indeed.
Many years before an election, I think our Nige might just have his timing very wrong and he’ll be a sub note in UK (party) political history like most of his career.
He’ll be know as opening the door for Restore I suspect .., but neither will get a majority.
The Greens are my biggest concern. A man trying to increase woman’s breast size with hypnosis, could have serious say in a hung parliament, an actor, a showman, anything but a serious problem solver. That really is scary. Factional, angry, and again Corbyn esk in wanting to be angry FAR more than wanting to solve problems.
Move to Spain until it blows over maybe. | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest on 10:28 - Mar 25 with 1390 views | bracknell_blue |
| Phil - just out of interest on 09:36 - Mar 25 by JohnTy |
You're having a laugh.
It looks unlikely that they will get even 30%. They peaked too soon. |
They are only that high as the media have given them a free pass. BBC Question Time is basically a party political broadcast for Reform these days. Once the media start reporting in an unbiased way and go for Farage the same as go for Starmer, that figure will fall quickly |  |
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