| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement 08:02 - Mar 25 with 6422 views | AlpineBlue | So people saying we are all being dramatic. If I wear my Town shirt somewhere in the UK today, it feels like I am advertising myself as a Reform supporter. I hope the club and sponsors understand that I and my family will not be buying and Ipswich Town replica shirts next season. I'd be surprised we are alone in this. |  | | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:04 - Mar 25 with 3276 views | MalcolmBlue | Safe to say I won’t be buying any more merch for a while. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 with 3178 views | waveneyblue | What an utterly ridiculous statement. Wearing a town shirt advertises yourself as some kind of Reform supporter? Is there some kind of competition in place on who can post the most ludicrous take on the situation? |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 with 3174 views | BloomBlue | That's similar to why I didnt buy (or wear) anything with a Town badge after Morsy refused to wear the rainbow armband, as it would look like I was advertising myself as homophobic. Especially as the Morsy news made the front page of sites like the BBC website. I also know at least one major sponsor was incensed with that as it was totally against its values, so I'm sure sponsors were also knocking on Ashton's door yesterday. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:17 - Mar 25 with 3119 views | bluebud |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 by BloomBlue | That's similar to why I didnt buy (or wear) anything with a Town badge after Morsy refused to wear the rainbow armband, as it would look like I was advertising myself as homophobic. Especially as the Morsy news made the front page of sites like the BBC website. I also know at least one major sponsor was incensed with that as it was totally against its values, so I'm sure sponsors were also knocking on Ashton's door yesterday. |
So do you still not wear the badge? Quite a sacrifice. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:18 - Mar 25 with 3111 views | muccletonjoe |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue | What an utterly ridiculous statement. Wearing a town shirt advertises yourself as some kind of Reform supporter? Is there some kind of competition in place on who can post the most ludicrous take on the situation? |
You get the prize for the most naive of the day. I was wearing the home shirt yesterday and got told I was a farage fan. So it does go to prove the OP in a nutshell. He has taken the club and broken it in two. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:19 - Mar 25 with 3106 views | The_Flashing_Smile | I saw you posted this in another thread and you were so chuffed with it you decided to start a new one. How absolutely ridiculous. It's a football shirt and shows you support Ipswich Town. Farage doing a tour of the club and posting a few clips online doesn't make you a Reform supporter. This place has lost it's mind. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:19 - Mar 25 with 3110 views | jasondozzell | Exactly this. Now everyone thinks we're the Reform team. It's so embarrassing and shameful. And Ashton doubling down on it with that statement is unacceptable. No problem with anyone doing the tour. But they knew they were using the club for party political broadcast. Everyone is normally fairly fond of ITFC when you meet them travelling. Now we'll be looked at with suspicion. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:22 - Mar 25 with 3071 views | BloomBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:17 - Mar 25 by bluebud | So do you still not wear the badge? Quite a sacrifice. |
No I don't, well only my lucky Town pants which have the badge on. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:22 - Mar 25 with 3064 views | thebooks |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue | What an utterly ridiculous statement. Wearing a town shirt advertises yourself as some kind of Reform supporter? Is there some kind of competition in place on who can post the most ludicrous take on the situation? |
I don't think you quite understand the damage this has done. I had 2 people mention it yesterday at work without me starting the conversation. Even my Bologna supporting mate emailed to say how sorry he felt for me! Basically all joking about us being the Reform team. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:24 - Mar 25 with 3008 views | waveneyblue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:19 - Mar 25 by jasondozzell | Exactly this. Now everyone thinks we're the Reform team. It's so embarrassing and shameful. And Ashton doubling down on it with that statement is unacceptable. No problem with anyone doing the tour. But they knew they were using the club for party political broadcast. Everyone is normally fairly fond of ITFC when you meet them travelling. Now we'll be looked at with suspicion. |
Oh come on. The use of "Everyone" is doing some very very heavy lifting here, so much so its put its back out. Yeah its in the news, yeah its topical right now. In a week (probably less), everyone (apart from the over sensitive on here) will have forgotten and moved on to the latest thing. Get a grip, please |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:25 - Mar 25 with 2986 views | waveneyblue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:22 - Mar 25 by thebooks | I don't think you quite understand the damage this has done. I had 2 people mention it yesterday at work without me starting the conversation. Even my Bologna supporting mate emailed to say how sorry he felt for me! Basically all joking about us being the Reform team. |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:30 - Mar 25 with 2910 views | Bangor31 | Let me get this straight. If you wear a town shirt you support nige and reform. On that logic all Arsenal fans who wear the shirt are linked to Keir and Labour, I might add that he is gifted those tickets from the club. A lot of hot air. Finding ways to be offended this all feels like. I'm sure the more imaginative fans will think of a chant for the next home game which should put this to bed. [Post edited 25 Mar 8:30]
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:32 - Mar 25 with 2867 views | lowhouseblue | is this now a competition? are there points for innovation and the style of the over-reaction. no one will think that supporting town or wearing a shirt will make you a reform supporter. a drama king or queen, clearly possibly though. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:32 - Mar 25 with 2865 views | NewcyBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:19 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile | I saw you posted this in another thread and you were so chuffed with it you decided to start a new one. How absolutely ridiculous. It's a football shirt and shows you support Ipswich Town. Farage doing a tour of the club and posting a few clips online doesn't make you a Reform supporter. This place has lost it's mind. |
I certainly won’t be buying any more Town shirts for my mixed race kids. In fact I won’t even try to take them to games. I am under no illusions, you could be stood next to anyone at any time in the stands with terrible opinions, but they aren’t spouting them for all to hear and using Portman Road as a way to legitimise themselves. That’s the difference. ITFC have willingly given Farage legitimacy. What they have not said, is just as powerful. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:35 - Mar 25 with 2778 views | bluebud |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:22 - Mar 25 by BloomBlue | No I don't, well only my lucky Town pants which have the badge on. |
I don't want to see them mate, I'll take your word :-) I wish you'd wear it again - I don't like when bullies get their way or have an impact. Just because the present owners or CEO aren't very good at communicating on certain issues shouldn't prevent you from wearing it. Is there an LGBTQ rainbow version of the badge on any replica kit? Or someone could start making them? If there isn't....why not? |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:38 - Mar 25 with 2737 views | CopfordBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:18 - Mar 25 by muccletonjoe | You get the prize for the most naive of the day. I was wearing the home shirt yesterday and got told I was a farage fan. So it does go to prove the OP in a nutshell. He has taken the club and broken it in two. |
I think you’ve misunderstood their rationale for being a Reform supporter. It wasn’t the fact it was a Town shirt it was just that you were an adult wearing a football shirt on a non-match day. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:42 - Mar 25 with 2684 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:32 - Mar 25 by NewcyBlue | I certainly won’t be buying any more Town shirts for my mixed race kids. In fact I won’t even try to take them to games. I am under no illusions, you could be stood next to anyone at any time in the stands with terrible opinions, but they aren’t spouting them for all to hear and using Portman Road as a way to legitimise themselves. That’s the difference. ITFC have willingly given Farage legitimacy. What they have not said, is just as powerful. |
That's entirely up to you Newcy. I'm surprised, but it's your choice. The club has stated it is apolitical, doesn't endorse any party or individual, and wearing an Ipswich shirt to me still makes no other statement than I'm an Ipswich supporter. Just as when it had a gambling sponsor on the front didn't make me a fan of gambling. I hate Farage as much as anyone but I think people have lost their minds over this and it'll largely be forgotten about in a week or so. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:43 - Mar 25 with 2655 views | AlpineBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue | What an utterly ridiculous statement. Wearing a town shirt advertises yourself as some kind of Reform supporter? Is there some kind of competition in place on who can post the most ludicrous take on the situation? |
Want to point out that I refused to buy the Magical Vegas shirts too, because I wouldn't want to make an endorsement of a predatory gambling company. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:46 - Mar 25 with 2603 views | DJR | I live in Kent, and always wear an Ipswich top at the gym. Up to now, I did so with pride and I often get into conversations with other football fans at the gym. But I don't feel pride anymore, so I won't be wearing it for the foreseeable future. [Post edited 25 Mar 8:50]
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:49 - Mar 25 with 2584 views | AlpineBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:19 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile | I saw you posted this in another thread and you were so chuffed with it you decided to start a new one. How absolutely ridiculous. It's a football shirt and shows you support Ipswich Town. Farage doing a tour of the club and posting a few clips online doesn't make you a Reform supporter. This place has lost it's mind. |
Well it was a thought that came into my head while I was scrolling through another thread, and I did think it was something that I want people involved with the club to see. It's a concrete example of why this is such a terrible thing. The took something that represented a local community and they broke it and made it mean something else. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:53 - Mar 25 with 2537 views | CrayonKing |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:42 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile | That's entirely up to you Newcy. I'm surprised, but it's your choice. The club has stated it is apolitical, doesn't endorse any party or individual, and wearing an Ipswich shirt to me still makes no other statement than I'm an Ipswich supporter. Just as when it had a gambling sponsor on the front didn't make me a fan of gambling. I hate Farage as much as anyone but I think people have lost their minds over this and it'll largely be forgotten about in a week or so. |
It's one thing *saying* that you're apolitical, but when you invite a politician to the club, and that political party is using your brand to advertise themselves then like it or not, you're now political. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:53 - Mar 25 with 2534 views | itfcjoe |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:42 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile | That's entirely up to you Newcy. I'm surprised, but it's your choice. The club has stated it is apolitical, doesn't endorse any party or individual, and wearing an Ipswich shirt to me still makes no other statement than I'm an Ipswich supporter. Just as when it had a gambling sponsor on the front didn't make me a fan of gambling. I hate Farage as much as anyone but I think people have lost their minds over this and it'll largely be forgotten about in a week or so. |
"The club has stated it is apolitical, doesn't endorse any party or individual" Actions speak louder than words |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:55 - Mar 25 with 2504 views | NedPlimpton |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:19 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile | I saw you posted this in another thread and you were so chuffed with it you decided to start a new one. How absolutely ridiculous. It's a football shirt and shows you support Ipswich Town. Farage doing a tour of the club and posting a few clips online doesn't make you a Reform supporter. This place has lost it's mind. |
We are 100% the Reform team for now. At least until this all blows over or the club distance themselves from what happened, which it looks like they're not going to be doing It's fecking embarrassing! So yeah, I can completely understand why people will feel a bit weird about wearing the shirt for a while [Post edited 25 Mar 9:05]
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:59 - Mar 25 with 2464 views | AlpineBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:30 - Mar 25 by Bangor31 | Let me get this straight. If you wear a town shirt you support nige and reform. On that logic all Arsenal fans who wear the shirt are linked to Keir and Labour, I might add that he is gifted those tickets from the club. A lot of hot air. Finding ways to be offended this all feels like. I'm sure the more imaginative fans will think of a chant for the next home game which should put this to bed. [Post edited 25 Mar 8:30]
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Keir Starmer is a lifelong Arsenal fan who pays money and goes to the games by his own choice. Like him or lump him he is a citizen of a free country and he is allowed to support whoever he wants to. If Nigel Farage attended Town games as a fan I'd have no issue at all. The problem is that he was allowed to (increasingly looks like he was invited to) use the football club as a publicity stunt. Arsenal would not let Starmer do that. If Starmer had done what Farage did, let's be clear, the "Oh it's no big deal" commenters here would be seething. |  | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:03 - Mar 25 with 2409 views | NewcyBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:42 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile | That's entirely up to you Newcy. I'm surprised, but it's your choice. The club has stated it is apolitical, doesn't endorse any party or individual, and wearing an Ipswich shirt to me still makes no other statement than I'm an Ipswich supporter. Just as when it had a gambling sponsor on the front didn't make me a fan of gambling. I hate Farage as much as anyone but I think people have lost their minds over this and it'll largely be forgotten about in a week or so. |
I think everyone has their own idea of what they find acceptable. That’s not people losing their minds. It’s definitely given me a chance to really think about what sort of thing I am encouraging my kids to get into. Certainly I think I should look into my own hobbies, and what are the wider associations with them and how does that impact my being a role model to my kids? |  |
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