| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement 08:02 - Mar 25 with 6337 views | AlpineBlue |
So people saying we are all being dramatic. If I wear my Town shirt somewhere in the UK today, it feels like I am advertising myself as a Reform supporter.
I hope the club and sponsors understand that I and my family will not be buying and Ipswich Town replica shirts next season. I'd be surprised we are alone in this. |  | | |  |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:04 - Mar 25 with 998 views | SitfcB |
What a load of bòllocks. I thought we had gone passed the stage of people losing their heads, looks like we’re in for another day of it. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:04 - Mar 25 with 987 views | SitfcB |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:18 - Mar 25 by muccletonjoe |
You get the prize for the most naive of the day. I was wearing the home shirt yesterday and got told I was a farage fan. So it does go to prove the OP in a nutshell. He has taken the club and broken it in two. |
I’ll take things that didn’t happen for £5 please. | |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:05 - Mar 25 with 987 views | Steve_M |
I think it's important to reclaim the club's identity from the fascists - something the continued silence from the higher echelons of the club isn't helping - but it does feel like a dilemma at the moment. Probably more so away from matches than at them.
I brought my partner's son the third kit for his 10th birthday yesterday. Feels a bit of a hollow present after all that has gone on. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:06 - Mar 25 with 966 views | E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
I've got a question for you Alpine and those agreeing with you.
If you had to wear a Ipswich shirt today or a Norwich one which would you choose? Never thought I'd ask that to a town fan as a genuine question not knowing what the answer might be. Madness. |  | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:08 - Mar 25 with 956 views | NewcyBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:04 - Mar 25 by SitfcB |
What a load of bòllocks. I thought we had gone passed the stage of people losing their heads, looks like we’re in for another day of it. |
Not really, the club made a choice to be a platform for an abhorrent human being.
People are making a choice to take a stand against that. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:11 - Mar 25 with 937 views | SonOfSpock |
Grow up |  | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:14 - Mar 25 with 908 views | lowhouseblue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:53 - Mar 25 by CrayonKing |
It's one thing *saying* that you're apolitical, but when you invite a politician to the club, and that political party is using your brand to advertise themselves then like it or not, you're now political. |
if you are equally hospitable with all party leaders then you are indeed apolitical. the club say that is their position, but since not all are likely to ask within the same decade it's problematic in practice. much better to say you don't host any national politicians. but unless you do that excluding just one of them, and in a town where 40% of people say they intend to vote that way, would be a very political and partisan act. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:19 - Mar 25 with 869 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:53 - Mar 25 by itfcjoe |
"The club has stated it is apolitical, doesn't endorse any party or individual"
Actions speak louder than words |
Well no other party has tried to pull off a stunt like this. If they had, no doubt the club would've let them ALL in.
The club have been naive and Reform have been clever in pulling their pants down. But I have no doubt that the club don't support Reform any more than anyone else. They're a football club (a very silly one that's made a very silly mistake). That's all. [Post edited 25 Mar 9:27]
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:19 - Mar 25 with 872 views | NedPlimpton |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:14 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
if you are equally hospitable with all party leaders then you are indeed apolitical. the club say that is their position, but since not all are likely to ask within the same decade it's problematic in practice. much better to say you don't host any national politicians. but unless you do that excluding just one of them, and in a town where 40% of people say they intend to vote that way, would be a very political and partisan act. |
Regardless of what the club say, allowing our stadium, shirt, brand etc to be used in promotional material for a political party is absolutely not apolitical |  | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:22 - Mar 25 with 856 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:14 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
if you are equally hospitable with all party leaders then you are indeed apolitical. the club say that is their position, but since not all are likely to ask within the same decade it's problematic in practice. much better to say you don't host any national politicians. but unless you do that excluding just one of them, and in a town where 40% of people say they intend to vote that way, would be a very political and partisan act. |
You'd have loved the Munich Olympics. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:22 - Mar 25 with 845 views | goperryrevs |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 08:13 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue |
What an utterly ridiculous statement.
Wearing a town shirt advertises yourself as some kind of Reform supporter?
Is there some kind of competition in place on who can post the most ludicrous take on the situation? |
It's the association. In the short term at least, Ipswich = Reform.
Perhaps for those of us that don't live in Ipswich / Suffolk anymore, the experience is more stark than those that do.
I live in the Midlands. My daughter is one of 2 Town fans at her school. Yesterday she was embarrassed and ashamed, as everyone knows she's a Tractor Girl. Her values are totally opposed to Farage's. Many other kids went up to her to talk about it / joke about it.
I play football every Sunday night with fans of clubs from all round the country. I always wear one of my many Town shirts, they all know I'm a Town fan. I had texts from 3 friends yesterday about this situation. I'm going to wear my Dinamo Kyiv shirt on Sunday. I don't want anyone thinking that I'm happy with how the club has acted or have any affection for the hate-filled politics of Reform.
This week, at least, every time I put a shirt or coat on, I'll be thinking twice about whether I really want to wear anything ITFC branded - normally I wear the badge with pride. I'm not proud of Town at the moment, I'm ashamed of the club.
Wearing Town branded stuff regularly leads to conversations with strangers. So I can guarantee that if I do wear something ITFC, a stranger will definitely raise the Farage issue with me. | | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:25 - Mar 25 with 809 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:03 - Mar 25 by NewcyBlue |
I think everyone has their own idea of what they find acceptable. That’s not people losing their minds.
It’s definitely given me a chance to really think about what sort of thing I am encouraging my kids to get into. Certainly I think I should look into my own hobbies, and what are the wider associations with them and how does that impact my being a role model to my kids? |
If I were you I'd explain to my kids what a nasty barsteward Farage is and what he stands for. I'd also explain that Ipswich Town are the finest football team the world has ever seen. One holding up the shirt of the other doesn't change either of those things or link them.
I for one and not going to let that prick and his stunt take my team away from me. | |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:25 - Mar 25 with 806 views | grow_our_own |
"Regardless of what the club say, allowing our stadium, shirt, brand etc to be used in promotional material for a political party is absolutely not apolitical" - indeed. Also, to sponsor Ipswich is now a political statement:
Phil - just out of interest by grow_our_own 25 Mar 8:42https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/sport/article36916028.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Nigel-Farage-pose.jpg
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Hey Ipswich public, through our work in the Foundation, the club believes in welcoming diversity, tolerance, and respect for others. We also promote Nigel Farage and the Reform UK party!
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:27 - Mar 25 with 775 views | RetroBlue |
As long as fans keep posting this type of thread about it, it will continue to remain in the public eye.
Well done!: |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:27 - Mar 25 with 774 views | Ryorry |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:14 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
if you are equally hospitable with all party leaders then you are indeed apolitical. the club say that is their position, but since not all are likely to ask within the same decade it's problematic in practice. much better to say you don't host any national politicians. but unless you do that excluding just one of them, and in a town where 40% of people say they intend to vote that way, would be a very political and partisan act. |
No one has yet been able to show any evidence of any other political party violating (I’m going to allow this AI Autocorrect to stand for my original ‘visiting’, as it seems pretty apt!) Portman Road in this way.
That includes a comment from Craig Forrest in the Athletic saying he can’t recall any such visit in his time here either. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:27 - Mar 25 with 769 views | Butterbing |
The club allowed itself to be used by and associated with Farage. Therefore to many people today an Ipswich shirt is associated with Farage also. I will not be wearing Town colours on principle. It's currently an embarrassment. |  | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:29 - Mar 25 with 740 views | NedPlimpton |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:22 - Mar 25 by goperryrevs |
It's the association. In the short term at least, Ipswich = Reform.
Perhaps for those of us that don't live in Ipswich / Suffolk anymore, the experience is more stark than those that do.
I live in the Midlands. My daughter is one of 2 Town fans at her school. Yesterday she was embarrassed and ashamed, as everyone knows she's a Tractor Girl. Her values are totally opposed to Farage's. Many other kids went up to her to talk about it / joke about it.
I play football every Sunday night with fans of clubs from all round the country. I always wear one of my many Town shirts, they all know I'm a Town fan. I had texts from 3 friends yesterday about this situation. I'm going to wear my Dinamo Kyiv shirt on Sunday. I don't want anyone thinking that I'm happy with how the club has acted or have any affection for the hate-filled politics of Reform.
This week, at least, every time I put a shirt or coat on, I'll be thinking twice about whether I really want to wear anything ITFC branded - normally I wear the badge with pride. I'm not proud of Town at the moment, I'm ashamed of the club.
Wearing Town branded stuff regularly leads to conversations with strangers. So I can guarantee that if I do wear something ITFC, a stranger will definitely raise the Farage issue with me. |
Absolutely this
My wife is off to Valencia this weekend. She normally has an ITFC baseball cap and enjoys wearing it on holidays as a lot of people come up to us and talk about what a great side we were in the 80s and how it's been good to see us back doing well again
She's now just going to get comments about reform and farage, so obviously doesn't want to take it with her
Fair enough, if that's the sort of conversation you want to be having about us, but clearly for a lot of people, we'd rather not have that association. I don't get why that's so hard for some to understand | | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:35 - Mar 25 with 699 views | AlpineBlue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:06 - Mar 25 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
I've got a question for you Alpine and those agreeing with you.
If you had to wear a Ipswich shirt today or a Norwich one which would you choose? Never thought I'd ask that to a town fan as a genuine question not knowing what the answer might be. Madness. |
Well the obvious answer to that is neither. Not to compare apples and oranges, but the fact that their management sold Nunez to us tells you that their ownership cares even less about the fanbase than ours does. If Farage had done the same thing there as at Portman Road, I think they'd have let him too. And their fans would be just as divided as ours are about it.
When someone has been thrown under the bus for this debacle and a less mealy mouthed statement comes from the club, I might feel better about this. | | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:36 - Mar 25 with 693 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:14 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
if you are equally hospitable with all party leaders then you are indeed apolitical. the club say that is their position, but since not all are likely to ask within the same decade it's problematic in practice. much better to say you don't host any national politicians. but unless you do that excluding just one of them, and in a town where 40% of people say they intend to vote that way, would be a very political and partisan act. |
That last statement is a bit contrived and a straw man. The club could quite easily said it doesn't allow political parties to use the club for promotional purposes and not allowed it, with very little furore, or it could quite easily also come out and said it distances itself from any private parties who used it's private facilities, and full frontedly reassert it's values and inclusivity. Again without those '40 percent' of reform 'supporters' batting an eyelid. It would never have been seen as a 'very political and partisan act'. |  | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:37 - Mar 25 with 685 views | CityBlue |
They hijacked our flag and now they hijack our club. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:38 - Mar 25 with 656 views | bartyg |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:27 - Mar 25 by RetroBlue |
As long as fans keep posting this type of thread about it, it will continue to remain in the public eye.
Well done!: |
Everytime you say this I'm going to start another thread about it. |  |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:42 - Mar 25 with 616 views | lowhouseblue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:36 - Mar 25 by Axeldalai_lama |
That last statement is a bit contrived and a straw man. The club could quite easily said it doesn't allow political parties to use the club for promotional purposes and not allowed it, with very little furore, or it could quite easily also come out and said it distances itself from any private parties who used it's private facilities, and full frontedly reassert it's values and inclusivity. Again without those '40 percent' of reform 'supporters' batting an eyelid. It would never have been seen as a 'very political and partisan act'. |
not allowing any political parties to use the club facilities would be a very sensible policy. they should announce it now. but it clearly wasn't the policy when the tour was booked. equally the club clearly doesn't restrict the use of tour images on social media - i assume everyone does it. again such a restriction would be good. but not having those rules and banning farage alone and after the tour was booked would be a very political act - the fact that he is hated on here is not representative of the wider ipwsich community or town supporters more widely. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:43 - Mar 25 with 606 views | JakeITFC |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:04 - Mar 25 by SitfcB |
What a load of bòllocks. I thought we had gone passed the stage of people losing their heads, looks like we’re in for another day of it. |
This isn’t something that’s going away sadly Sitters. |  | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:44 - Mar 25 with 584 views | CastroSito |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:42 - Mar 25 by lowhouseblue |
not allowing any political parties to use the club facilities would be a very sensible policy. they should announce it now. but it clearly wasn't the policy when the tour was booked. equally the club clearly doesn't restrict the use of tour images on social media - i assume everyone does it. again such a restriction would be good. but not having those rules and banning farage alone and after the tour was booked would be a very political act - the fact that he is hated on here is not representative of the wider ipwsich community or town supporters more widely. |
They do restrict it. It was clearly signed-off and agreed. | | | |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:46 - Mar 25 with 559 views | lowhouseblue |
| The crux of the problem? To wear a Town shirt is now a political statement on 09:44 - Mar 25 by CastroSito |
They do restrict it. It was clearly signed-off and agreed. |
when you say 'clearly" does that mean you have seen something that makes it 'clear"? | |
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