| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage 16:58 - Mar 26 with 12769 views | itfcjoe |
What an absolute whopper
Time to go Ashton
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 05:57 - Mar 27 with 819 views | ernie |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 20:35 - Mar 26 by bluelagos |
You guys should step up imho.
If he's not gone by the next game organise a demo, banner. If it needs funding I'll cover it (genuine offer)
We can't sit back and watch a car crash destroy our promotion chances. |
lol. Making a big deal (out of what is essentially nothing) and calling for the head of our CEO when it has already been forgotten by the national media is exactly what is going to derail our chances of promotion. |  | | |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:02 - Mar 27 with 716 views | Herbivore |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 05:57 - Mar 27 by ernie |
lol. Making a big deal (out of what is essentially nothing) and calling for the head of our CEO when it has already been forgotten by the national media is exactly what is going to derail our chances of promotion. |
It's really funny seeing yourself and other posters of your ilk who only ever post relentlessly negative drek about the players, the manager, and leadership at the club now clutching your pearls that people are fuming at Ashton. You lot always deny that your over the top negative hot takes have any impact but now you're saying people venting about Ashton will derail our promotion chances? Hypocrite much? And interesting that a draw at Stoke is, in your eyes, clearly worthy of losing one's head over but inviting a racist grifter to the club to use it for self-promotion and tarnishing the reputation of our club as a result is absolutely fine. Have a word with yourself, mate. |  |
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:22 - Mar 27 with 642 views | Dubtractor |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:02 - Mar 27 by Herbivore |
It's really funny seeing yourself and other posters of your ilk who only ever post relentlessly negative drek about the players, the manager, and leadership at the club now clutching your pearls that people are fuming at Ashton. You lot always deny that your over the top negative hot takes have any impact but now you're saying people venting about Ashton will derail our promotion chances? Hypocrite much? And interesting that a draw at Stoke is, in your eyes, clearly worthy of losing one's head over but inviting a racist grifter to the club to use it for self-promotion and tarnishing the reputation of our club as a result is absolutely fine. Have a word with yourself, mate. |
It is pretty telling that almost everyone still defending Ashton are those who you'd say are nailed on Reform voters.
Its no about the politics though, oh no, it's free speech.
For the record, anyone can vote Reform if they won't, but don't pretend that isnt influencing their position on this. |  |
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:34 - Mar 27 with 581 views | WeWereZombies |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 05:57 - Mar 27 by ernie |
lol. Making a big deal (out of what is essentially nothing) and calling for the head of our CEO when it has already been forgotten by the national media is exactly what is going to derail our chances of promotion. |
If it has already been forgotten why was a Liverpool supporter having a laugh at me six hundred and fifty miles away from Portman Road last night ? |  |
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:41 - Mar 27 with 552 views | bazza |
I think this boils down to
A, it’s farage
B, it’s Ashton who several already have a hard on for
But you can’t defend the indefensible he’s cocked up royally, but I’d say an apology would be enough for the majority. And concentrate back on promotion. |  | | |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:43 - Mar 27 with 541 views | Libero |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:41 - Mar 27 by bazza |
I think this boils down to
A, it’s farage
B, it’s Ashton who several already have a hard on for
But you can’t defend the indefensible he’s cocked up royally, but I’d say an apology would be enough for the majority. And concentrate back on promotion. |
Te he he! - sorry I invited a quasi fascist for lunch, allowed him to use the club in his propaganda, then treated you all like idiots and lied
to you about it! - can we go back to normal now?!
No, Mark- No we can’t. |  | | |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:47 - Mar 27 with 517 views | bazza |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:43 - Mar 27 by Libero |
Te he he! - sorry I invited a quasi fascist for lunch, allowed him to use the club in his propaganda, then treated you all like idiots and lied
to you about it! - can we go back to normal now?!
No, Mark- No we can’t. |
As I said.. | | | |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:55 - Mar 27 with 461 views | m14_blue |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:41 - Mar 27 by bazza |
I think this boils down to
A, it’s farage
B, it’s Ashton who several already have a hard on for
But you can’t defend the indefensible he’s cocked up royally, but I’d say an apology would be enough for the majority. And concentrate back on promotion. |
Apology definitely not enough for me.
It would have been immediately after the event but he chose to lie about it instead. There's no way any apology now will be sincere and we can't trust anything he says about anything in the future.
Lying has become normalised in public life but it really shouldn't be.
He needs to go. | | | |
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:59 - Mar 27 with 432 views | jayessess |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:43 - Mar 27 by Libero |
Te he he! - sorry I invited a quasi fascist for lunch, allowed him to use the club in his propaganda, then treated you all like idiots and lied
to you about it! - can we go back to normal now?!
No, Mark- No we can’t. |
Think it's amazing that a few days ago the line from some was "oh, it's not like it's an endorsement, anyone can visit the club, we have to be apolitical" and now that it's turned out actually this was an active political intervention by the club and that Ashton actively courted this and facilitated all the media we've seen about it, it's made no difference.
If you hate talking about the politics and just want to focus on football, go tell Ashton. If he wasn't desperate to have a nice chatty lunch with Nigel Farage we'd still all be talking about whether Núñez should come straight back in or whatever. |  |
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| I know a number of people.... on 08:11 - Mar 27 with 383 views | NthQldITFC |
| I know a number of people.... on 22:43 - Mar 26 by bluester |
It’s not, I know a plenty of people at board levels who are not. If anything, it’s better if they’re not like that. |
Agree.
It's a very narrow-minded, shallow and simplistic idea that we hear far too often, associated with the aggressive, self-obsessed ideals of the likes of Thatcher.
It may work as a shock to the system on occasion, but human beings are a co-operative pack species deep in our DNA, and we work best when we encourage and look out for each other and engender group enthusiasm, not resentment.
It might be different if we operated in unconstrained systems where everyone could 'grow' as much as they want, but football clubs operate in a constrained league just like humans operate on a constrained planet - we have to get on with each other and compromise for the greater good or we wreck ourselves and the system gets overheated and dies. |  |
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 08:15 - Mar 27 with 362 views | gringoblue |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 07:41 - Mar 27 by bazza |
I think this boils down to
A, it’s farage
B, it’s Ashton who several already have a hard on for
But you can’t defend the indefensible he’s cocked up royally, but I’d say an apology would be enough for the majority. And concentrate back on promotion. |
I think it is slightly less relevant whether a section of ITFC supporters feel Ashton should go, if his staff and potentially some players / McKenna have lost trust in Ashton then he is surely gone. |  | | |
| The problem is itfcsuth… on 08:40 - Mar 27 with 270 views | itfcsuth |
| The problem is itfcsuth… on 20:50 - Mar 26 by unstableblue |
… its not the lying, or the sanctioned platforming of our club to make that party political video… it’s Farage being welcomed
You state - “Not for inviting or meeting Farage, that personally doesn’t bother me”
It needs to bother people. He is a really really nasty piece of work. He’s dangerous for this country. He’s a rascist and he’s an extreme populist and he’s a mini Trump.
Badenoch, Starmer, Polanski, and Davey are all flawed. But they are all principled in some ways.
Farage is a grifter… he’s made £54k from cameo already this year, he’s been funded by the worst, his councillors are appalling, he’s starting ponzi Bitcoin esque scams.
We enabled him.
Read into what he has said and done.
Ashton has to go. [Post edited 26 Mar 20:50]
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That’s personal opinion of people whether him being there bothers people though, not matter of fact. Some people dislike Farage, some like him, some are indifferent - that’s just personal opinions.
It is a matter fact however that Ashton tried to lie and deceive fans, employees and local media to cover up the story, and that is an horrendous look in the position he holds. |  | | |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 08:41 - Mar 27 with 268 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 08:15 - Mar 27 by gringoblue |
I think it is slightly less relevant whether a section of ITFC supporters feel Ashton should go, if his staff and potentially some players / McKenna have lost trust in Ashton then he is surely gone. |
Over the summer Ashton has positive talks with KM and we retain one of the best young coaches in Europe to get us back up, good work.
Cue 6 months later KM comes into to work and sees Farage walking about the stadium waving his town shirt about.
Borderline insanity from Ashton, then to have a sit down meal and a signing session on ITFC merchandise FFS!
Maybe he wants to be a politician now as his football career is in all sorts of mess.
The only way he can get out of this is say something drugged him at the meal and he has no recollection of anything that happened ha | | | |
| The problem is itfcsuth… on 08:47 - Mar 27 with 234 views | Herbivore |
| The problem is itfcsuth… on 08:40 - Mar 27 by itfcsuth |
That’s personal opinion of people whether him being there bothers people though, not matter of fact. Some people dislike Farage, some like him, some are indifferent - that’s just personal opinions.
It is a matter fact however that Ashton tried to lie and deceive fans, employees and local media to cover up the story, and that is an horrendous look in the position he holds. |
There's lots of evidence that Farage is a racist grifter. If some people like him then that's on them but our club shouldn't be promoting racist grifters. The lying about it makes it even worse but allowing Farage to use our club for propaganda given what he stands for and what he is was a huge error of judgement. | |
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| All this just for the CEO's ego and wanting to meet Nigel Farage on 09:21 - Mar 27 with 148 views | DazBoGangles |
I'm torn
I'm appalled by the story, the fact Ashton has done this for his ego and the fact we're now forever associated with Farage and Reform. I'm angered by the fact we've gifted them, not only merchandise but more importantly an opportunity for free PR (ironically at PR). But the worst thing - he's clearly been caught in a lie and there's no effort thus far to correct that.
That said, although it is KM who has ultimately brought us success - MA has been an integral part of the story and without him I geniunely don't believe we'd have progressed in the way we have, so quickly.
We live in a "cancel culture" world and it's so unforgiving that when a mistake is made - and what a whopper of a mistake it is - it doesn't allow for the chance of making a mistake and moving on.
I would genuinely let this pass - in the event, and only if, MA comes out and apologies for the cover up and gifts.
If he doesn't - which I suspect he won't - he should go. [Post edited 27 Mar 9:23]
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