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Blue Monday Podcast 20:56 - Mar 29 with 6782 viewsandyblue231

(Which I absolutely love).

General feeling seems to be a willingness to move on. Though with real frustration over the way it’s been handled. Certainly seemed to be the thrust of most of the commenters in the chat.

Finding it hard to forgive and forget without more contrition from Ashton but I may be on the wrong side of the public mood.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 08:40 - Mar 30 with 1136 viewsMaccaisgod

You most certainly ly are.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 08:43 - Mar 30 with 1122 viewsDJR

It will be interesting to see if the Kings of Anglia put out a podcast today: they usually do on a Monday although there was no game on Saturday.

If they do, I imagine it will be more hard-hitting not least because they have already nailed their colours to the mast.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 with 1093 viewsnrb1985

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:43 - Mar 30 by DJR

It will be interesting to see if the Kings of Anglia put out a podcast today: they usually do on a Monday although there was no game on Saturday.

If they do, I imagine it will be more hard-hitting not least because they have already nailed their colours to the mast.
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This is the point and why I was so bitterly disappointed last night.

How have we ended up in a position where the local press, who rely on the club for access to do their job, are prepared to ask more difficult questions than our so called “fan channel”.

Ben Bloom in particular was absolutely pathetic.

It was more like a puff piece for the club than anything else.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 with 1085 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Blue Monday Podcast on 05:20 - Mar 30 by nrb1985

Based on his performance last night I assume they’ve moved to a model whereby he gets paid by the word. Talk about waffle honestly.

At least Mark Heath and the EADT seem prepared to ask the difficult questions.


Thing is I really enjoy his personal channel. Knowledgeable bloke, formats his videos really well, it is good stuff. I also really enjoy Blue Monday and the contributors on it. He just does not work as a host on a podcast though. He talks ways too much, interrupts every other sentence and it is a shame because I want to hear what the others have to say.

Think a few weeks back Rich was hosting and the thing just flowed much better imo.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 08:57 - Mar 30 with 1060 viewsDJR

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 by nrb1985

This is the point and why I was so bitterly disappointed last night.

How have we ended up in a position where the local press, who rely on the club for access to do their job, are prepared to ask more difficult questions than our so called “fan channel”.

Ben Bloom in particular was absolutely pathetic.

It was more like a puff piece for the club than anything else.


The only upside is that I now know there is no point in listening to it.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:01 - Mar 30 with 1043 viewsnrb1985

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:57 - Mar 30 by DJR

The only upside is that I now know there is no point in listening to it.
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Ha.

Still give it a listen, others may have a different view but those were my thoughts.

Btw - re your gym wear conundrum, saw a chap cycling through hyde park this morning in ITFC shorts, so there's at least one person who will happily still fly the flag!
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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:03 - Mar 30 with 1039 viewsBig_Jase

I don’t blame them for doing it but they completely soft balled it. They didn’t really give much of an opinion for me.

I personally find Bens style on there quite grating, and not just for today. Constantly saying you have a right to a view, even when talking about a 1-1 draw with a lower half championship team.

Don’t think it’s a massive coincidence that Joe was unavailable today after his post on here this week.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:04 - Mar 30 with 1029 viewsZx1988

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 by nrb1985

This is the point and why I was so bitterly disappointed last night.

How have we ended up in a position where the local press, who rely on the club for access to do their job, are prepared to ask more difficult questions than our so called “fan channel”.

Ben Bloom in particular was absolutely pathetic.

It was more like a puff piece for the club than anything else.


Is it a question of fall-back positions and relative power?

If the club wants to take issue with the EADT, they've got stuff they can fall back on, and the EADT can reciprocate in terms of refusing to be the club's PR mouthpiece.

If Blue Monday lose whatever privileges they have with the club, that's probably it for them.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:07 - Mar 30 with 1007 viewsTheMoralMajority

Honestly, I think they were in a very difficult position, and would rather not have done the podcast.

I know that I would much rather be talking about anything but this, especially at such a crucial time of the season. But for Town, at least, this is big news.

Unfortunately, like it or not, the issue with what kicked this off IS hugely divisive for a lot of people, regardless of where your politics lie (kind of the reason why this was all such a bad idea tbh, but I digress).

Ultimately, any view they take is going to piss off a significant chunk of fans, but that is not BMs fault, that's just the situation.

A better approach would have been having Ben chair and 2 people putting the argument from 2 sides (although, that would also be problematic, as I think there are a lot more than 2 sides to this coin), but I appreciate that scheduling (Joe) and not wanting to touch this with a barge-pole (total speculation on my part) made that very hard.

At the end of the day, it's just 2 men sitting in a bedroom trying to walk a tightrope. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Ashton out

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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:10 - Mar 30 with 987 viewsGlasgowBlue

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 by TRUE_BLUE123

Thing is I really enjoy his personal channel. Knowledgeable bloke, formats his videos really well, it is good stuff. I also really enjoy Blue Monday and the contributors on it. He just does not work as a host on a podcast though. He talks ways too much, interrupts every other sentence and it is a shame because I want to hear what the others have to say.

Think a few weeks back Rich was hosting and the thing just flowed much better imo.


I only listened to the first 25 minutes when walking the dog last night. I think they played it pretty straight. Not attempting to let their personal views to take over. Pretty much in the same way Phil has done on this board.

As my phone was in my pocket I wasn’t able to read the comments, but I could tell there were quite a few people messaging in asking why they were talking about Farage rather than football.

I suppose they have to take on board the views of all of their members and listeners, which will be split, and not take sides.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:14 - Mar 30 with 971 viewsKBsSocks

The podcast was okay - did a better job of trying to explain what has happened and why people are not happy than the club has done. But was too wordy and didn't say too much overall.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 09:54 - Mar 30 with 891 viewsPinewoodblue

Wasn’t keen with a stunt, last season, involving local MP, Ipswich foundation & Premier Lesgue Trophy.

https://www.itfcfoundation.co.

Ashton however has taken things to a new level which is unforgivable.

Keep politics out of football.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 11:31 - Mar 30 with 800 viewsGarv

Surprised to see so much criticism of BM on this thread, people saying they've 'bottled it', whatever 'it' actually is.

They're a bunch of fans that talk about football once or twice a week and discuss what the team selection should be and what formation to play, they shouldn't be held to account like this or be expected to take a strong view either way.

You either want politics out of the conversation or you don't, but it seems people want them to nail their colours to the mast. It would have been totally justified in my view if they'd not made one mention of the whole thing and done their usual pre-match podcast in the build up to the Brum game.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:09 - Mar 30 with 728 viewsnrb1985

Blue Monday Podcast on 11:31 - Mar 30 by Garv

Surprised to see so much criticism of BM on this thread, people saying they've 'bottled it', whatever 'it' actually is.

They're a bunch of fans that talk about football once or twice a week and discuss what the team selection should be and what formation to play, they shouldn't be held to account like this or be expected to take a strong view either way.

You either want politics out of the conversation or you don't, but it seems people want them to nail their colours to the mast. It would have been totally justified in my view if they'd not made one mention of the whole thing and done their usual pre-match podcast in the build up to the Brum game.


Its got nothing to do with politics and everything to do with competence of the CEO and the absurd cover up that took place there after. And the fact he thinks you and I are complete mugs and will swallow whatever BS that weasel gives us.

You have missed the point entirely.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:17 - Mar 30 with 713 viewsReusersTown

Blue Monday Podcast on 21:12 - Mar 29 by andyblue231

Personally I think being told by the club that protesting is damaging the club and we need to get behind the boys is a bit of an emotional blackmail move.

It’s what a lot of institutions say when they do something wrong.

We have the right to hold them to account without being thought of as traitors.

But as I say, if that’s the will then so be it. Get promoted and maybe we’ll see a more welcoming and collegiate MA in the future.
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So much this, His constant use of together in the interview was cringe inducing. Just another attempt at not being held accountable and sweeping it under the rug by emotional blackmail. So he can try and point to is as not a huge deal further down the line.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:17 - Mar 30 with 714 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Blue Monday Podcast on 11:31 - Mar 30 by Garv

Surprised to see so much criticism of BM on this thread, people saying they've 'bottled it', whatever 'it' actually is.

They're a bunch of fans that talk about football once or twice a week and discuss what the team selection should be and what formation to play, they shouldn't be held to account like this or be expected to take a strong view either way.

You either want politics out of the conversation or you don't, but it seems people want them to nail their colours to the mast. It would have been totally justified in my view if they'd not made one mention of the whole thing and done their usual pre-match podcast in the build up to the Brum game.


Its more about the CEO / Chairman lying to fans in a cover up.

Politics is a side show.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:18 - Mar 30 with 711 viewsGarv

Blue Monday Podcast on 12:17 - Mar 30 by Marshalls_Mullet

Its more about the CEO / Chairman lying to fans in a cover up.

Politics is a side show.


Cover up about what?

It's about politics.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:20 - Mar 30 with 701 viewsReusersTown

Blue Monday Podcast on 21:10 - Mar 29 by HampBlue

Felt the guys handled it brilliantly. Gave opinions which I think the majority are probably aligned too. it was great discussion that’s not filled with completely polarised takes one way or the other

For some people their political views make any engagement with that party/individual unforgivable & they’ll never move forward unless Ashton moves on, and if that’s the case, fair enough.

But as a fanbase, turning up at 3pm on a Saturday - We need to put this to once side or risk dragging this on, dividing the fanbase further.


I've no affiliation with any party but I also find it unforgivable, and Ashton needs to he held to account for what he's done, aligning the whole club with his own political beliefs. Which many are now being held hostage by due to their support and connection to the club which in many cases spans generations.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:23 - Mar 30 with 690 viewshype313

Blue Monday Podcast on 12:17 - Mar 30 by Marshalls_Mullet

Its more about the CEO / Chairman lying to fans in a cover up.

Politics is a side show.


That's the rub, that statement on Tuesday saying they were completely unaware of who was booking, to then find out 2 days later Ashton had lunch with Farage and gifted him 10 shirts.

They knew all along, that's where the issues arise for me, trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Regarding BM, it was a tricky one to navigate, especially given they sponsor the Girls team.

However, the club aligning with Far Right grifters has huge consequences across the board, I'm surprised nothing was mentioned regarding players of ethnic backgrounds being upset, Rainbow tractors etc.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:24 - Mar 30 with 685 viewsStenvict

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 by nrb1985

This is the point and why I was so bitterly disappointed last night.

How have we ended up in a position where the local press, who rely on the club for access to do their job, are prepared to ask more difficult questions than our so called “fan channel”.

Ben Bloom in particular was absolutely pathetic.

It was more like a puff piece for the club than anything else.


Maybe neither of them had as strong an opinion on the whole saga as you and others do. Those 2 are 2 of the main contributors to the channel, could have just been the luck of draw on who was signed on last night. They mentioned that Joe and DD weren't due to be on anyway.

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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:32 - Mar 30 with 655 viewsitfc1108

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:51 - Mar 30 by nrb1985

This is the point and why I was so bitterly disappointed last night.

How have we ended up in a position where the local press, who rely on the club for access to do their job, are prepared to ask more difficult questions than our so called “fan channel”.

Ben Bloom in particular was absolutely pathetic.

It was more like a puff piece for the club than anything else.


I wonder how Stuart and the other chap will be treated by the club, because Mark Heath put his name to both of those articles last week.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:34 - Mar 30 with 648 viewsReusersTown

Blue Monday Podcast on 12:23 - Mar 30 by hype313

That's the rub, that statement on Tuesday saying they were completely unaware of who was booking, to then find out 2 days later Ashton had lunch with Farage and gifted him 10 shirts.

They knew all along, that's where the issues arise for me, trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Regarding BM, it was a tricky one to navigate, especially given they sponsor the Girls team.

However, the club aligning with Far Right grifters has huge consequences across the board, I'm surprised nothing was mentioned regarding players of ethnic backgrounds being upset, Rainbow tractors etc.


The issue for you should also be Ashton using the club us his play thing to further his own ambitions. The fact that they were clearly invited and then the attempted lies/coverup clearly shows that Ashton knew what he was doing, he just didn't give a crap how this might affect actual supporters.

BM was far too soft for me on the potential repercussions and just how stupid it is. Re: the girls team, id have thought they would have spoken up more given their sponsorship not less.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:46 - Mar 30 with 604 viewsandyblue231

Blue Monday Podcast on 08:40 - Mar 30 by Maccaisgod

You most certainly ly are.


It's OK, it's not how I tend to decide what I think or what's right.


I'm sure historically the majority tend to be right on these sorts of things. Not read much history but I'm sure that's right.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 12:49 - Mar 30 with 583 viewsnrb1985

Blue Monday Podcast on 12:18 - Mar 30 by Garv

Cover up about what?

It's about politics.


Hi Mark.
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Blue Monday Podcast on 13:08 - Mar 30 with 499 viewssouthnorfolkblue

Blue Monday Podcast on 21:24 - Mar 29 by itfc1108

Does Ashton have the type of job, where people are put on gardening leave for something like this, before dismissal/ mutual consent?
I don't really understand that process.
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Gardening leave is only really relevant where somebody is on notice to leave their employment. Rather than the individual working out their notice they are effectively told to stay at home. Often see it in sales where companies are worried that their customers will get tapped up by the employee whose loyalties may now lie elsewhere

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