| Why Ashton needs to go... 09:57 - Mar 31 with 6046 views | mrshallisfit |
What we have now is a disunited fanbase. That has been ripped open by Ashton and it cant be repaired. We all realise when we go to a game that the 29000 or so around us that we have different opinions than each other. I hear the Reform based chants. I hear the knuckle dragging comments on a regular basis. I have the seething contempt for people's apathy and people's bigotry. But I try to ignore it all and hope my club helps me to forget it all by whipping me away into an alternative world of one agenda: ITFC. Most of the time this season at home the players have done that successfully.
What Ashton has now done is created, in such a poorly timed way, a huge divide between fans that someways can never be healed. Its the same gap that occurs across society day to day.
So what to do for the immediate? There should be a protest on the day. Before the match perhaps in central town and then at the club but positioned to avoid the bus route of the players. That protest should be suspended about 45 mins before kick-off and then resumed straight after the match, hopefully in even bigger numbers.
Of course I want the players protected as much as possible, but if we are to believe various statements they are angry as well.
If you don't want any protest against Ashton because (a) you cant be arsed (b) or even worse you think Ashton was right and the club should be linked with Reform - then that shows the divide there is amongst fans anyway. I for example wouldn't want to share one micro-seconds oxygen with you for the rest of my life, as I have complete contempt for you.
I suppose that is the wonder of football. It brings together many various and varied people together under one shared experience. Our chairman has decided to blaze a floodlight onto these differences at just the worst moment, creating the perfect opposite of what he always said he wanted to achieve - fan togetherness. Of course, he did not do that deliberately. His actions were blinded by his raw undiluted ego.
I have been going to Portman Road for nearly 48 years and Ashton wont stop me going in the future. However, whilst he is in charged I don't feel the same about the club. I know its futile in some ways but I haven't worn anything ITFC related since the events of last week. I have been ashamed since then to be a supporter. That's why I will continue to protest against his presence till the moment he has gone. Any right-thinking fan with some kind of fucntioning moral compass should do the same. [Post edited 31 Mar 9:58]
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:21 - Mar 31 with 901 views | Kievthegreat |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:03 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE |
Ashton IN.
Until 4th May. Then if the club want to replace him, great. Would give them time to find someone else who is ready to hit the ground running. |
I would be fine with this, providing they indicate that plan today. |  | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:21 - Mar 31 with 898 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
The club should get rid of Ashton and appoint Holland until a more suitable candidate can be found. Appointing Holland would unite the fan base, steady the ship and allow us all to move forward.
While Ashton is part of the club then the division will continue. He lost the opportunity to explain and apologise, and now has to go.
If people don't want to join a protest then the best way to make an impact is not purchasing anything from the club shop or in the ground |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:23 - Mar 31 with 889 views | jonny1964 |
BRILLIANT POST | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:27 - Mar 31 with 864 views | mrshallisfit |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:21 - Mar 31 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
The club should get rid of Ashton and appoint Holland until a more suitable candidate can be found. Appointing Holland would unite the fan base, steady the ship and allow us all to move forward.
While Ashton is part of the club then the division will continue. He lost the opportunity to explain and apologise, and now has to go.
If people don't want to join a protest then the best way to make an impact is not purchasing anything from the club shop or in the ground |
That's not a bad shout. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:29 - Mar 31 with 856 views | bluelagos |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:07 - Mar 31 by victorysquad |
If what you say is true, and the ownership group had nothing to do with it, then one can only assume the ownership group will act accordingly. they are not idiots. I suspect they are stuck in-between a rock and a hard place, right now at least and probably want to get to the end of the season getting promoted, which is probably what a large of chunk of the support base want as well.
I can totally understand why people feel that is setting principles aside, but I would not make an assumption that people can't be arsed or are Reform supporters and love the association, just because they don't want to start a mass protest. |
I think there's a serious issue here about the ownership....namely how do they make decisions in a crisis?
When everything is good, quarterly board meeting, Ashton updates them, they ask some questions, FD shows latest numbers....nice easy routine. Your big decisions are made in that setting including investment decisions etc. (I imagine - I have no insight but that's how I've done it in a firm owned by venture capitalists)
You delegate the day to day to Ashton and maybe have a decision making team/input for transfers.
But what about the crisis- when it's Ashton that's the issue? How do maybe half a dozen stakeholders (Yeah Mark, other people understand business too) get together for an unscheduled call and make than decision. They all have other full times jobs/diaries.
It will be an absolute nightmare making that call - and no doubt the initial decision was "Apologise - move on"
Well unfortunately for everyone - it wasn't a genuine apology. Ashton didnt have the humility to accept his mistakes - clung on to the "mis truths" out there bs and then his "lessons learned" example was passing the buck to the club for his fck up.
FUBAR at the moment! |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:30 - Mar 31 with 851 views | bluelagos |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:21 - Mar 31 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
The club should get rid of Ashton and appoint Holland until a more suitable candidate can be found. Appointing Holland would unite the fan base, steady the ship and allow us all to move forward.
While Ashton is part of the club then the division will continue. He lost the opportunity to explain and apologise, and now has to go.
If people don't want to join a protest then the best way to make an impact is not purchasing anything from the club shop or in the ground |
Very good - Matty H - everyone loves him.
It's only 2 months til the end of the season...He would defo unify the fans. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:35 - Mar 31 with 812 views | WeWereZombies |
Pearce out. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:38 - Mar 31 with 795 views | Tambu |
You are in an echo chamber. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:40 - Mar 31 with 789 views | Libero |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:38 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
You are in an echo chamber. |
There are literally people in this post giving alternative views and discussing them sensibly. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:41]
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:43 - Mar 31 with 764 views | WD19 |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:17 - Mar 31 by bluelagos |
You don't give the arsonist the fire extinguisher! |
If he is the only one currently in the building and set alight to the house accidentally through his own stupidly then it might not be the worst idea in the world. Letting the house burn down on a point of principle doesn't seem like a great plan.
Lets just save the house for now and we can worry about fixing the fire damage and evicting the dopey tenant later. |  | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:44 - Mar 31 with 750 views | Kievthegreat |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:40 - Mar 31 by Libero |
There are literally people in this post giving alternative views and discussing them sensibly. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:41]
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And Tambu showed up after as well! | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:45 - Mar 31 with 737 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:40 - Mar 31 by Libero |
There are literally people in this post giving alternative views and discussing them sensibly. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:41]
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I meant TWTD.
I talked with 4 or so ITFC fans at the weekend who attend games and had no idea what TWTD was and hadn't really heard that much about a campaign to remove Ashton. I get the impression that is the majority. This is an echo chamber, much like folks that think because 100 people said something on X then that is the general opinion. Truth is it isn't. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:47 - Mar 31 with 711 views | Libero |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:45 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
I meant TWTD.
I talked with 4 or so ITFC fans at the weekend who attend games and had no idea what TWTD was and hadn't really heard that much about a campaign to remove Ashton. I get the impression that is the majority. This is an echo chamber, much like folks that think because 100 people said something on X then that is the general opinion. Truth is it isn't. |
Idea that TWTD is some kind of left wing echo chamber has been ostensibly debunked in other threads which highlight the statistical realities of who makes up the forum. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:48 - Mar 31 with 705 views | bluelagos |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:43 - Mar 31 by WD19 |
If he is the only one currently in the building and set alight to the house accidentally through his own stupidly then it might not be the worst idea in the world. Letting the house burn down on a point of principle doesn't seem like a great plan.
Lets just save the house for now and we can worry about fixing the fire damage and evicting the dopey tenant later. |
He's not the only one in the building though!
The corporate boys will have dozens of senior guys they can pull in to cover. Or someone suggested Matt Holland. Or the COO (as as interim)
Ashton is not the only option.
Or just announce he's off in the summer :-) | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:51 - Mar 31 with 676 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:47 - Mar 31 by Libero |
Idea that TWTD is some kind of left wing echo chamber has been ostensibly debunked in other threads which highlight the statistical realities of who makes up the forum. |
I didn't mention anything about left or right. The whole place is treated as if what is said or argued in here is what everyone is discussing and concerned with. It isn't. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:53 - Mar 31 with 667 views | Libero |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:51 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
I didn't mention anything about left or right. The whole place is treated as if what is said or argued in here is what everyone is discussing and concerned with. It isn't. |
I think that might be an issue with your comprehension skills... | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:55 - Mar 31 with 645 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:53 - Mar 31 by Libero |
I think that might be an issue with your comprehension skills... |
Perhaps. But then I've been away for a decade plus and you are still here trying to be relevant. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:55 - Mar 31 with 642 views | Bobbychase |
The fanbase - like the rest of society - was already divided in terms of politics etc. All this has done is illuminate it. I have Town fan friends who are livid and want Ashton to go, despite his apology video, and I have other Town fan friends who are equally livid that the whole thing is even a talking point.
Monday will be one of the biggest crowds of the season. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for a boycott.
Ashton in, then let's see where we are when this season is finished. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:56 - Mar 31 with 630 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:51 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
I didn't mention anything about left or right. The whole place is treated as if what is said or argued in here is what everyone is discussing and concerned with. It isn't. |
I'm not sure where anyone has said that, but I would be interested in seeing where you have seen that they have?
Equally, just because people post on TWTD does not mean that their concerns are any less valid.
And certainly, concerns about this whole shebang have been raised more widely than just on TWTD. Terry Hunt's column on EADT being just one example. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:59 - Mar 31 with 608 views | Libero |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:55 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
Perhaps. But then I've been away for a decade plus and you are still here trying to be relevant. |
Nice of you to recognise me! I returned a little while ago after my own sabbatical of over half a decade.
Sadly can't extend the same courtesy, I can't say I recall your username.
Seems odd to make a jibe about "relevance" when by your own admission I've lived rent free in your head for a decade!
Regardless, I'm not sure how one would go about "trying to be relevant" on here- but again, thanks for noticing me. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:00 - Mar 31 with 601 views | Libero |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:56 - Mar 31 by TheMoralMajority |
I'm not sure where anyone has said that, but I would be interested in seeing where you have seen that they have?
Equally, just because people post on TWTD does not mean that their concerns are any less valid.
And certainly, concerns about this whole shebang have been raised more widely than just on TWTD. Terry Hunt's column on EADT being just one example. |
Yeah, no one's said it. It's a rather odd post and subsequent correspondence. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:02 - Mar 31 with 579 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:59 - Mar 31 by Libero |
Nice of you to recognise me! I returned a little while ago after my own sabbatical of over half a decade.
Sadly can't extend the same courtesy, I can't say I recall your username.
Seems odd to make a jibe about "relevance" when by your own admission I've lived rent free in your head for a decade!
Regardless, I'm not sure how one would go about "trying to be relevant" on here- but again, thanks for noticing me. |
Up until I saw your username I hadn't given you a second thought. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:03 - Mar 31 with 572 views | Libero |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:02 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
Up until I saw your username I hadn't given you a second thought. |
Of course - thanks for thinking of me. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:05 - Mar 31 with 557 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:45 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
I meant TWTD.
I talked with 4 or so ITFC fans at the weekend who attend games and had no idea what TWTD was and hadn't really heard that much about a campaign to remove Ashton. I get the impression that is the majority. This is an echo chamber, much like folks that think because 100 people said something on X then that is the general opinion. Truth is it isn't. |
Did the 4 people you know who represent more accurately the wider fan base know anything of Ashton releasing an apology for it or had that passed them by too? What did they think of the apology when you discussed it with them? |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:21 - Mar 31 with 503 views | backwaywhen |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:05 - Mar 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Did the 4 people you know who represent more accurately the wider fan base know anything of Ashton releasing an apology for it or had that passed them by too? What did they think of the apology when you discussed it with them? |
I think you will get a better feeling of how Town fans feel on Monday , when you see and speak to people that you only meet at the games , those I know that are personal friends and family don’t give a dam about the past weeks events and think is laughable that a few are getting so annoyed.
I would imagine that the vast majority don’t really care , and just want to support the team on match days. | | | |
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