| McKenna thoughts… 07:47 - Apr 14 with 3314 views | chripswich |
Let’s hope tonight goes well.
Would like to raise a discussion about Mckennas future.
Three promotions (we are going up!), one relegation. In four years. Will he want the chance of a 3:2 scoreline. I doubt it.
His stock is once again at a high. As sad as I’d be he’d be stupid to turn down a big job.
There’s a certain big club he knows VERY well and will need a new manager next season, plus others.
Personally I’d wish him well, unlike two years ago when all the hype was about him. I thought it was too early. He made the right choice then. Now???
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:26 - Apr 14 with 794 views | Mullet |
| McKenna thoughts… on 09:22 - Apr 14 by ITFC_Forever |
As with every summer since he joined us, our best business will be to keep hold of him.
I have a nagging doubt this season is his last with us - I don't think he's taken too kindly to the criticism he has got at times this season from the hard of thinking. |
He won't be bothered by that, especially as he has his sights on the top.
Realistically, he's going. What more can he do here that enhances his CV? He fails to take us up we will get rid. He takes us up he will be offered the chance to get someone into Europe etc at a minimum.
I can't imagine he goes abroad, I don't think Celtic is a big enough job for the type of bloke he is. People are talking about United, but what that will show him is that his mate Carrick can go in there and work and he is ahead of him arguably, so that will motivate him to go higher up. |  |
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| Definite risk of him leaving… but a number of pull factors to remain on 09:27 - Apr 14 with 795 views | unstableblue |
Firstly, he turns 40 on the 14th May*, and no doubt he will be thinking at some point of the step up to a top six club (top six in terms of scale and resources).
He clearly has an affinity with Spurs and Man U. I think Carrick will need to pull out some strong final performances and really cement 3rd/4th place to secure a long term deal, and if he does go, no way they then response with a McKenna type.
Spurs are a mess. Need a win immediately - Next two games - or are going down. And rumours of a Levy court case. If Town do get promoted he ain’t a going there.
Palace likely to come in. Maybe Bournemouth.
But I do think the pull of another go at the Premier League, family settled in Suffolk and crucially the new training ground are strong.
*I don’t think the fans have wooed him and venerated that strongly this season - that’s changing - and he will have maybe picked up on this, or certainly the barracking of players. But he’s smart he knows that he gets an easy ride in Ipswich. But my word wouldn’t a massive McKennna bday TIFO be a great gesture against QPR?! |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:33 - Apr 14 with 768 views | cressi |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:55 - Apr 14 by hype313 |
Looking around at potential vacancies, the only ones I can see as available will be Palace and Newcastle, Palace would be tempting but if we were to throw big money this summer if we go up then he might feel like staying put, Newcastle will want to go for someone with a big name I'd imagine.
Obviously there's the car crash which is Chelsea, if they finish on a whimper then wouldn't be surprised to see Roseinior going, but is it a job McKenna would relish taking over? |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:47 - Apr 14 with 740 views | Guthrum |
| McKenna thoughts… on 09:21 - Apr 14 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Would be a tough decision to make. I would understand the logic if he did want to go but would hope he would stay. |
I don't see why, having won promotion, McKenna would step down a level back to the Champ.
That risks being seen as unambitious, for one thing. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 10:10 - Apr 14 with 698 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
can't believe some on here saying "what more can he achieve here?" and "he's taken us as far as he can".
Have a re-read of what the owners say. We are the highest valued club ever in the championship (£400M) and the investment isn't slowing. They have made it clear, the ambition is to get to the upper echelons of the Prem, challenging for Europe and no doubt domestic cups.
So once McKenna achieves his 3rd promotion in 4 years, his next challenge is keeping us in the Prem. He needs to get that on his cv. At his age, there are plenty of years left to go to a Man Utd or Spurs. But if we succeed in staying up in 26/27, maybe he may want to continue the journey here to see how far we can go. He's not in a hurry, he is a patient man. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 10:15 - Apr 14 with 697 views | vilanovablue |
I still think he might end up at Palace next season. |  | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 10:16 - Apr 14 with 685 views | darkhorse28 |
He’s young. He’s improving (potentially).
This season we’ve struggled to punch our weight, last season was the fifth worst season anyone had ever had in the premier league.
Your recency bias and blue specs aren’t helping, he’s not getting a top job…., you could win 100 consequative EFL promotions and still be miles off elite level.
We’re talking needing to be top 30 im world football to be at that level, and top 20 to even make a shortlist…, he might have made shortlists to demonstrate trolling at young progressive managers but he was only seriously considered by Palace and Brighton - he priced himself out of those roles. And that hasn’t changed either.
He might regret that. Do you think Brighton regret not appointing him?
Has there ever been a manager with a promotion from this league go on to be elite? Eddie Howe? I can’t think of another.
There’s a reason championship managers are dwarfed by foreign managers for top jobs - they’re BETTER, more elite, world class, and have won trophies (often)
Compare McKenna to them and not EFL managers and it’s not easy.
To be fair to him. He couldn’t have done much better, he’s had one season as an opportunity, a great budget, and it was a big failure.
You have to compare him to Leeds, Sunderland, how does he even compare to Lampard? The Southampton manager, Millwall Boro etc…, they’ve all got more, with less.
That doesn’t detract from his achievements, especially if we go up, promotion is all anyone can expect expect, but they will look at levels. Spending, performances.
He won’t be getting manager of the year will be.
Even at this level…, Coventry, Southampton, Boro, Millwall, Wrexham, even Oxford. Haven’t they all done more with less?
If you’re not the best manager in the championship, you aren’t getting a top job.
If he takes us up, keeps us up, establishes us, that will be commensurate with his salary at the moment, and then clubs will look again.
Brighton wouldn’t pay the money. Look at where they are.
That’s elite.
EFL promotions are fantastic, but you’re putting a touring car champion in an F1 car and saying he’ll win the championship! …, well last time he got lapped.
At least he ca improve. Learn, develop, and has lots of potential.
Ashton has been doing this 36 years and won’t ever be at that level. That’s the bigger issue.
McKenna to Celtic if we go up or maybe he stays, but get a feeling the Ashton dynamic isn’t great and change will come.
Perera at Forest, saved Wolves. Won Toni’s in four different countries, has more cups than Costa - costs less than McKenna and is managing at the bottom of the league, THAT is the level.
Clearly far more elite than KM in the here and now. And retaining a job at that level isn’t easy for him, he needs to keep teams up. Dyche. Frank, cat find work and are levels above KM (in the here and now).
He’s got it all to prove (at the level) and that’s why paying him so much, was and is such a huge risk.
Fine margins. Fingers crossed he stays, Ashton leaves and KM gets more elite off the field support because the same woeful talent ID will get the same or a worse outcome.
We haven’t played great this season. There’s no point pretending promotion changes that, it’s fantastic, defining for our future even back in the EFL, essential financially, but we’ve been worse than 23/24 as a measure, and to the eye .., so his stock I don’t think will be high…, I think teams rightly will wait and see if he’s learnt anything at the new level. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 10:45 - Apr 14 with 649 views | IPS_wich |
The thing is - the one failure on his CV is relegation in his one year in the Premier League.
Why would a big club (and more importantly their fans) be prepared to take a gamble on a manager who's one year in the top flight ended in a meek relegation?
As it stands Le Bris and potentially Farke have more runs on the board in that they've got a team promoted and kept them up against the odds. Not to mention if Howe is shown the door at Newcastle then he immediately jumps to the front of the queue. Then there's Southgate looming as well.
I just don't see United, Spurs or Celtic having McKenna at the top of their list - which means we're then back into the territory of a middle to lower Premier League side potentially sniffing around - and I'd be confident he'd want to stay at Town and the owners will make it worth his while. | | | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 10:50 - Apr 14 with 640 views | chicoazul |
By informed accounts McK is on an absolutely incredible wedge, as in elite European club tier salary. So that’s gonna have some bearing on things. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 11:26 - Apr 14 with 584 views | MattinLondon |
I do think that KM is at quite an interesting crossroads in his career which, considering how young he is, is quite remarkable.
KM is clearly highly respected within footballing circles but those people will be quite weary of the ordinary fans viewpoint. When the club last went up, KM had won the respect of most neutral fans and supporters of clubs like Brighton and Palace and Brentford would’ve been keen for their clubs to appoint him. But a supposedly poor season in the PL and a season which has probably been quite underwhelming (in the viewpoint of neutral fans) has see his reputation slide a little. And I doubt that fans of medium size PL clubs will see him in a really enthusiastic light.
In terms of next season, I do think that KM will be best served to stay here - he’s made mistakes but he learns from them.
Next season of Spurs go down they could potentially be a basket case and I don’t see any other Championship club being able to tempt him.
Short answer is that I think he should stay here. |  | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 11:46 - Apr 14 with 549 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
I've believed he will leave this summer no matter what.
Those saying his stock isn't as high as we think I disagree with, I think his stock is higher than most believe. People in the game appreciate how calm, level headed and principled he is.
Most sane people realise how difficult and competitive the championship is and to achieve promotion on first attempt in the manner we did was remarkable. The relegation from the Premier League wouldn't have affect his stock as much as us fans believe, as most pundits thought we'd go down anyway and they all commented how competitive we were.
This campaign has been different, but KM has built a squad again and controlled the narrative regarding expectations well. If we secure promotion, then it just emphasises what most people know - we have an exceptional young manager.
The last few days I've questioned my belief that he'll leave this summer. With attractive options at a higher level in Palace available I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the move. This, combined with the recent incident with our chairman that could have derailed the team, and the fact that none of us know KM's thoughts, may make him feel ready to move on.
Personally, I would love him to stay and have another go and see if he has learnt from his and the cubs errors first time around!
Whatever the outcome - I hope its swift. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 13:13 - Apr 14 with 502 views | IpswichTownBlue |
My view is that if he has his mind set on leaving he would have done by now. McKenna knows that a move to a so called bigger club doesn't guarantee greater success for himself. A bad move and he finds himself back at a struggling Premier League club or even Championship.
The grass isn't always greener and McKenna is self-aware enough to understand this. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 13:55 - Apr 14 with 462 views | backwaywhen |
I would imagine he would see how the season progresses and take a good look at which offers come in , if any .
His job is certainly safe here that’s for sure . | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 14:10 - Apr 14 with 435 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| McKenna thoughts… on 10:10 - Apr 14 by LegendofthePhoenix |
can't believe some on here saying "what more can he achieve here?" and "he's taken us as far as he can".
Have a re-read of what the owners say. We are the highest valued club ever in the championship (£400M) and the investment isn't slowing. They have made it clear, the ambition is to get to the upper echelons of the Prem, challenging for Europe and no doubt domestic cups.
So once McKenna achieves his 3rd promotion in 4 years, his next challenge is keeping us in the Prem. He needs to get that on his cv. At his age, there are plenty of years left to go to a Man Utd or Spurs. But if we succeed in staying up in 26/27, maybe he may want to continue the journey here to see how far we can go. He's not in a hurry, he is a patient man. |
If there is one thing we've learnt about McKenna, it's his ultimate patience. He always has an eye on the long term objective. Each season is planning for the coming seasons, with a realistic view that it may not be linear.
I agree with your thoughts on the owners - he knows the ambition of the club, and whilst that matches his own ambition, he'll hang around imo. Sure, if a massive club came calling, he'd consider it and weigh up his options. But I don't think those massive clubs will come calling just yet. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 18:59 - Apr 14 with 333 views | armchaircritic59 |
KM will go If/when he thinks the time is perfectly right for him. Could be tomorrow, could be 10 years down the line. It's something no one in here has control over, so why not just enjoy the ride for now, instead of pointless speculation. |  | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 19:07 - Apr 14 with 329 views | backwaywhen |
| McKenna thoughts… on 10:15 - Apr 14 by vilanovablue |
I still think he might end up at Palace next season. |
That’s where Bournemouth manager is going surely. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 19:19 - Apr 14 with 311 views | OldFart71 |
I would question the number of jobs that KM would take. I don't see many teams that want a new manager who would be any better than Town.
Bournemouth ? really.
I look around at many teams and I see gates of 10-12,000 and we get regularly above 27,000 with a supposed waiting list of 6,000.
Currently any Premier League side is allowed 3,000 away fans at PR. Many if our capacity was 35-40,000 would bring 5,6, or 7,000 maybe.
The pitch and floodlights are new. The training ground a multi million pound project.
The team admittedly needs an upgrade in a few positions, but that's not impossible if the right players are sourced. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 19:25 - Apr 14 with 298 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:20 - Apr 14 by StokieBlue |
I think he will want to stay, he's had a bash at the PL and now has a much better idea of what is required both tactically and with regards to the squad.
No shame in being relegated as a promoted club but massive upside in staying up with a promoted club and hopefully doing it in a good style.
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There is this but when Tottenham come calling early next season looking for someone with experience of getting promoted from the Championship, he may find it difficult to turn down.
Going to Man Utd and getting them relegated wouldn't be so good.
In all seriousness, it would be a Bournemouth or similar that would be looking at him. He would surely consider what is on offer and a lot of different things will play into that. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 03:22 - Apr 15 with 249 views | chripswich |
| McKenna thoughts… on 19:25 - Apr 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There is this but when Tottenham come calling early next season looking for someone with experience of getting promoted from the Championship, he may find it difficult to turn down.
Going to Man Utd and getting them relegated wouldn't be so good.
In all seriousness, it would be a Bournemouth or similar that would be looking at him. He would surely consider what is on offer and a lot of different things will play into that. |
Looks like I’m nostradamus. I knew nothing of the Bournemouth link when starting the discussion.
But then again I put 1:3 town in my Super6 (sobs). Shocking night | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 17:27 - Apr 15 with 153 views | Blue_Heath |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:55 - Apr 14 by hype313 |
Looking around at potential vacancies, the only ones I can see as available will be Palace and Newcastle, Palace would be tempting but if we were to throw big money this summer if we go up then he might feel like staying put, Newcastle will want to go for someone with a big name I'd imagine.
Obviously there's the car crash which is Chelsea, if they finish on a whimper then wouldn't be surprised to see Roseinior going, but is it a job McKenna would relish taking over? |
Palace just won FA Cup, Charity Shield and potentially Europe Mickey Mouse, how would KM follow that? As good as he is in some aspects a cup manager he is not. | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 01:09 - Apr 16 with 109 views | armchaircritic59 |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:20 - Apr 14 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
"There have been accusations of us being over-coached" Only from people who don't really know too much about football.
I think McKenna's stock is much higher than you think. The relegation in the prem last time wasn't pretty but the squad (for Premier league level) was awful, like really bad. The performance level wasn't actually that bad. |
Nice to know I don't know too much about football after 63 years of watching it, obviously I need to take a refresher course. Pity I can't take you back a few decades when football was managed and played by people, not robots.
Who assembled the PL squad for last season? I agree with you on one point, it was awful by PL standards. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 06:03 - Apr 16 with 85 views | PioneerBlue |
All best content to cover later in May. Focus. | |
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