| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake 22:07 - Apr 14 with 1575 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Kipre looked rusty.
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:08 - Apr 14 with 1562 views | TractorWood |
He didn't look fit or sharp. A number of times he jogged forward with the ball and got pushed off it or fell over. |  |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:11 - Apr 14 with 1516 views | GlasgowBlue |
It was an awful decision. The Greaves/O'Shea partnership has looked a class above and Johnson has been an able deputy for Davis.
For me, Kipre causes chaos when the ball is in our box. We have to play our best team for the rest of the season because imo that team selection cost us the game.
It will have also put some fire back into Middlesbrough's belly. |  |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:11 - Apr 14 with 1518 views | itfcserbia |
That being said he did have a few excellent passes and a couple of blocks at the back. Far from our worst player tonight |  |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:13 - Apr 14 with 1477 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Rusty is putting it very kindly. That was one of the worst defensive performances I've seen in the gamechanger era and what made it worse was he also stopped trying/ running back at times.
2/5 Ground Duels won
2/4 Aerial Duels won
1 tackle all game
For a centre half that is weak and pathetic. [Post edited 14 Apr 22:16]
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:14 - Apr 14 with 1440 views | MrPotatoHead |
Kipre was awful |  | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:15 - Apr 14 with 1409 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:11 - Apr 14 by itfcserbia |
That being said he did have a few excellent passes and a couple of blocks at the back. Far from our worst player tonight |
A far better bet for a pass from the back than the other two. | |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:34 - Apr 14 with 1310 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:13 - Apr 14 by Bellevue_Blue |
Rusty is putting it very kindly. That was one of the worst defensive performances I've seen in the gamechanger era and what made it worse was he also stopped trying/ running back at times.
2/5 Ground Duels won
2/4 Aerial Duels won
1 tackle all game
For a centre half that is weak and pathetic. [Post edited 14 Apr 22:16]
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The running in treacle after making a mistake is not good enough.
He won’t play at the weekend. | |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:51 - Apr 14 with 1261 views | Plums |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:11 - Apr 14 by GlasgowBlue |
It was an awful decision. The Greaves/O'Shea partnership has looked a class above and Johnson has been an able deputy for Davis.
For me, Kipre causes chaos when the ball is in our box. We have to play our best team for the rest of the season because imo that team selection cost us the game.
It will have also put some fire back into Middlesbrough's belly. |
Both goals were substantially aided by Greaves seeming to forget he was playing LB and drifting to his natural position in the centre. The first one - where he put it out for the corner they scored from - his man was in acres of space prior to it going out. The second was a repeat where their player was again all alone in the LB position.
I'm not pinning the goals on Greaves, he's not a left back and has just played out of his skin at CB so why on earth he was moved when all the talk's been about the versatility of Johnson - it's baffling. [Post edited 14 Apr 22:59]
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:04 - Apr 14 with 1197 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:51 - Apr 14 by Plums |
Both goals were substantially aided by Greaves seeming to forget he was playing LB and drifting to his natural position in the centre. The first one - where he put it out for the corner they scored from - his man was in acres of space prior to it going out. The second was a repeat where their player was again all alone in the LB position.
I'm not pinning the goals on Greaves, he's not a left back and has just played out of his skin at CB so why on earth he was moved when all the talk's been about the versatility of Johnson - it's baffling. [Post edited 14 Apr 22:59]
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Greaves can look great, but he is physically weak against agression, and has some major positional issues, time and again. | |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:09 - Apr 14 with 1172 views | jaseitfc2015 |
Just absolutely baffling to tinker with the CB pairing when O’Shea and Greaves looked settled | | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:11 - Apr 14 with 1157 views | Blooos |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:09 - Apr 14 by jaseitfc2015 |
Just absolutely baffling to tinker with the CB pairing when O’Shea and Greaves looked settled |
Worth noting too O’Shea and Greaves hasnt always worked or looked settled in the past. To then break it up after finally looking settled is a truly shocking decision. Probably the best defensive display of our season on Saturday and then we decide to move Greaves to LB?? | | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:23 - Apr 14 with 1124 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:11 - Apr 14 by Blooos |
Worth noting too O’Shea and Greaves hasnt always worked or looked settled in the past. To then break it up after finally looking settled is a truly shocking decision. Probably the best defensive display of our season on Saturday and then we decide to move Greaves to LB?? |
I’ve never once criticized McKenna’s team selections, but tonight was a mistake, end of.
He must know that himself now. | |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:24 - Apr 14 with 1120 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I’ve not liked his displays since Preston at home. |  |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 01:06 - Apr 15 with 1037 views | armchaircritic59 |
Big error in my opinion. They seemed to be just starting to show the form together as a partnership that many expected earlier. So yes, makes all the sense in the world to break it up after Norwich and unsettle the defence. Ben Johnson once more at left back would have been fine. |  | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 02:26 - Apr 15 with 1007 views | TownieRob |
We’re very quick to praise McKenna and rightly so in 99% of situations. Many even called a masterclass on Saturday. However, the defensive performance tonight suggests he made an error of judgement with his selection of that pairing.
Greaves and DOS, with Johnson at left-back, made the most sense, so just one (forced) change from Saturday. Bringing in Kipre meant changing half the back four, which doesn’t add up after a superb clean sheet. [Post edited 15 Apr 3:39]
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 05:20 - Apr 15 with 912 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 22:13 - Apr 14 by Bellevue_Blue |
Rusty is putting it very kindly. That was one of the worst defensive performances I've seen in the gamechanger era and what made it worse was he also stopped trying/ running back at times.
2/5 Ground Duels won
2/4 Aerial Duels won
1 tackle all game
For a centre half that is weak and pathetic. [Post edited 14 Apr 22:16]
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Greaves was just as bad unfortunately. Same stats and crucially missed important headers in the box which lead to at least one goal.
Statistically, Furlong was the worst by some margin:
Ground duels won:
0/2 (0%)
Aerial duels won:
1/3 (33%)
Defensive contributions:
3
Honking stats considering he spent most of the game in our half “defending”.
One to forget and move on from. |  |
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 12:26 - Apr 15 with 695 views | DJR |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 05:20 - Apr 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Greaves was just as bad unfortunately. Same stats and crucially missed important headers in the box which lead to at least one goal.
Statistically, Furlong was the worst by some margin:
Ground duels won:
0/2 (0%)
Aerial duels won:
1/3 (33%)
Defensive contributions:
3
Honking stats considering he spent most of the game in our half “defending”.
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics, and those statistic tell only part of the story because I thought Furlong played well from my position in the ground. Putting it another way, he wasn't involved in the play only 6 times because there were times, for example, where he got to long balls over the top before the opposition.
Of course, maybe we could have done a bit better defensively for each goal but last night's result wasn't down to the defence. It was the players in front of them who let us down. Indeed, it is only Clarke and Philogene (and maybe Hirst to a lesser extent) who came out of the game with any credit. [Post edited 15 Apr 12:29]
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| Innit on 12:31 - Apr 15 with 646 views | Dyland |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 02:26 - Apr 15 by TownieRob |
We’re very quick to praise McKenna and rightly so in 99% of situations. Many even called a masterclass on Saturday. However, the defensive performance tonight suggests he made an error of judgement with his selection of that pairing.
Greaves and DOS, with Johnson at left-back, made the most sense, so just one (forced) change from Saturday. Bringing in Kipre meant changing half the back four, which doesn’t add up after a superb clean sheet. [Post edited 15 Apr 3:39]
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He fooked up his selection last night, but that's wonderful in hindsight. And you can say that for every manager ever, good and bad. What was the bigger fook up, in my very humble and generally clueless opinion, were the subs and second half formation. Felt like wishful thinking. Maybe he kind of wrote the game off. We move on.
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 12:57 - Apr 15 with 582 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 12:26 - Apr 15 by DJR |
There are lies, damned lies and statistics, and those statistic tell only part of the story because I thought Furlong played well from my position in the ground. Putting it another way, he wasn't involved in the play only 6 times because there were times, for example, where he got to long balls over the top before the opposition.
Of course, maybe we could have done a bit better defensively for each goal but last night's result wasn't down to the defence. It was the players in front of them who let us down. Indeed, it is only Clarke and Philogene (and maybe Hirst to a lesser extent) who came out of the game with any credit. [Post edited 15 Apr 12:29]
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I think 'played well' is ridiculously generous. Watch the second goal back, he got absolutely dog walked back into the area and allowed them the space to clip the ball in.
He's only been subbed off three times this season, never for a defender and never as early as the 58th minute.
That tells you what KM thought of the performance. [Post edited 15 Apr 13:00]
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 13:12 - Apr 15 with 525 views | DJR |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 12:57 - Apr 15 by Bellevue_Blue |
I think 'played well' is ridiculously generous. Watch the second goal back, he got absolutely dog walked back into the area and allowed them the space to clip the ball in.
He's only been subbed off three times this season, never for a defender and never as early as the 58th minute.
That tells you what KM thought of the performance. [Post edited 15 Apr 13:00]
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Very difficult to place the blame on Furlong for the second goal. He had two on him when they first attacked and he held up the No.27, so did his job.
It was arguably McAteer who should have been helping him out and who also didn't get close enough to the person who crossed. Indeed, closing down people has been a problem of ours all season.
https://www.skysports.com/foot
But as I said above, our issues last night were caused by those in front the defence, and I don't think we got a shot on target until the 80th minute or even a bit later. [Post edited 15 Apr 13:19]
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 13:23 - Apr 15 with 478 views | ReusersTown |
Kipre was the least of our problems. Matusiwa not being fit and without a viable understudy being number 1. | | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 13:29 - Apr 15 with 453 views | StokieBlue |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:23 - Apr 14 by Wallingford_Boy |
I’ve never once criticized McKenna’s team selections, but tonight was a mistake, end of.
He must know that himself now. |
Well except every time he selected Jackson.
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| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 13:59 - Apr 15 with 400 views | longtimefan |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 13:23 - Apr 15 by ReusersTown |
Kipre was the least of our problems. Matusiwa not being fit and without a viable understudy being number 1. |
Agreed to a degree. For me Matusiwa and Neil's performances and inability to exert any control in the middle of the field were the root of the problems. It's also true we often struggle against strong center forwards like Bishop who put themselves about. Kiefer Moore caused the same problems for Wrexham. I suspect Kipre was brought back to try and mange Bishop, as Greaves is often outmuscled, but it didn't really work and the long ball to Bishop was a problem all night. | | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 14:05 - Apr 15 with 383 views | OldFart71 |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 23:04 - Apr 14 by redrickstuhaart |
Greaves can look great, but he is physically weak against agression, and has some major positional issues, time and again. |
Although maybe bought as he can play in a number of positions as we have seen with many this season they simply cannot play either at all or good enough in different positions.
KM has tried both Clarke and Philogene in the same team, doesn't work, Egeli was tried once I believe at number 10 in a cup game and looked lost.
I think it's fair to say why play Greaves as fullback and bring in Kipre who has looked off the pace for a number of games when you have Johnson who has done well since coming in for Leif.
None of the changes excuses the poor Pompey showing and I think you will see the Greaves/O'Shea partnership back, with Leif in his usual position. Taylor and Matisuwa in midfield. With Burns, Memeti,Azon and Philogene starting against Boro. | | | |
| Breaking up the Greaves/O’Shea partnership was a mistake on 19:37 - Apr 15 with 236 views | armchaircritic59 |
Huge one, just starting to look like the partnership we expected in the beginning, and bingo, JG gets shunted off to left back and in comes CK, so two changes where only one was neccessary, Ben Johnson replacing LD. You expect better from a " tactical genius ". | | | |
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