| The "recruitment team" 18:05 - Apr 20 with 2078 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Anyone know for certain who this is? Because let's be honest, it's a mess isn't it.
We have made some awful recruitment decisions over the past 2 years.
Sammie Szmodics - John Eustace loves him and wants to keep him, but why did we buy a player who just doesn't fit our system?
Chuba Akpom? No discussion needed, insane decision just done to spite Brum.
Walle Egeli? A record fee for the Championship, but no place in a team aiming for a return to the PL and behind our right winger in L1.
Alex Palmer, now behind the keeper we had in L1.
Aro Muric - a keeper who doesn't communicate with the defenders. Hopefully we recoup our money as he is a decent keeper in Italy.
Kalvin Phillips.
It seems so many of our recruits are "good on paper" but don't fit in our system, and/or have been bought to prevent other teams having them. The money we have spent has been really poor. Do we have a decent scouting network? So many clubs seem to find good players at decent prices, and with all our riches we should have smashed it this season, but we've made a dogs dinner of the recruitment. To me, this is by far the biggest area we need to do better.
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| The "recruitment team" on 18:06 - Apr 20 with 1851 views | Bobbychase |
New senior scout appointed last month:
I expect, like the new training ground when it opens, this make take a while to bear fruit. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 18:07 - Apr 20 with 1841 views | J2BLUE |
Do you really believe we signed Akpom just to stop Birmingham getting him? Come on...
Phillips was an exciting signing at the time. Few people predicted how that would go. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 18:12 - Apr 20 with 1805 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| The "recruitment team" on 18:06 - Apr 20 by Bobbychase |
New senior scout appointed last month:
I expect, like the new training ground when it opens, this make take a while to bear fruit. |
I missed that story, so good to know. Better late than never. | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 18:16 - Apr 20 with 1785 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| The "recruitment team" on 18:07 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
Do you really believe we signed Akpom just to stop Birmingham getting him? Come on...
Phillips was an exciting signing at the time. Few people predicted how that would go. |
Phillips was a huge risk, he had been pants at West Ham.
What position was Akpom recruited for? Almost a season later, it's still a complete mystery. Does the recruitment team actually ask our manager what positions he wants to strengthen? Akpom was done so fast, grabbed from under the noses of our first opponent, just because we could. Huge mistake. | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 19:04 - Apr 20 with 1661 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Is it a coincidence that the recruitment has gone downhill since Mike O'Leary left and Mark Ashton has no accountability?
Maybe.
I'm Ashton out because of his disgraceful behaviour anyway regardless of whether he is accountable for the recruitment. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 19:10 - Apr 20 with 1642 views | gainsboroughblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 18:07 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
Do you really believe we signed Akpom just to stop Birmingham getting him? Come on...
Phillips was an exciting signing at the time. Few people predicted how that would go. |
It was a bit tit-for-tat wasn't it? I think they wanted him, then we did, then they tried to hijack it by offering a permanent deal.
It hasn't worked in our favour whatever happened. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 19:11 - Apr 20 with 1645 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Mick Courts was appointed Director of Recruitment after the transfer window in September and Peter Braund came in March.
There was a two-year gap between Sam Williams leaving the Head of Recruitment role in Jun 2024.
You'd presume Ashton was essentially entirely reliant on agents to do deals and KM did the large majority of the identification (hence why most were UK based players).
Not great, that is for sure ... |  | | |
| The "recruitment team" on 21:16 - Apr 20 with 1346 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The "recruitment team" on 19:11 - Apr 20 by Bellevue_Blue |
Mick Courts was appointed Director of Recruitment after the transfer window in September and Peter Braund came in March.
There was a two-year gap between Sam Williams leaving the Head of Recruitment role in Jun 2024.
You'd presume Ashton was essentially entirely reliant on agents to do deals and KM did the large majority of the identification (hence why most were UK based players).
Not great, that is for sure ... |
Really bad situation for a PL and then parachute club and it’s showing.
Relying on the likes of Walton, Taylor and Hirst when we have 8 figure players cluttering up the bench. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 21:24 - Apr 20 with 1309 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The "recruitment team" on 18:07 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
Do you really believe we signed Akpom just to stop Birmingham getting him? Come on...
Phillips was an exciting signing at the time. Few people predicted how that would go. |
He was never linked. You think it’s being the realms of possibility his agent was successfully working the phones?
Looked pretty panicky at the time. | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 21:36 - Apr 20 with 1245 views | MattinLondon |
| The "recruitment team" on 18:06 - Apr 20 by Bobbychase |
New senior scout appointed last month:
I expect, like the new training ground when it opens, this make take a while to bear fruit. |
I’m not so sure that it’ll take time to bear fruit. I’m assuming that Peter Braund will be aware of quite a lot of players from his time at Man U and Spurs.
KM says that he wants a big tall powerful midfielder who can run with the ball etc and PB will hopefully be aware of players who fit that bill. |  | | |
| The "recruitment team" on 21:41 - Apr 20 with 1225 views | bournemouthblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 21:24 - Apr 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
He was never linked. You think it’s being the realms of possibility his agent was successfully working the phones?
Looked pretty panicky at the time. |
It felt like that, especially having sold Broadhead and not really having a ready made replacement
It feels like Mehmeti is probably the closest to that |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 21:43 - Apr 20 with 1220 views | bournemouthblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 19:11 - Apr 20 by Bellevue_Blue |
Mick Courts was appointed Director of Recruitment after the transfer window in September and Peter Braund came in March.
There was a two-year gap between Sam Williams leaving the Head of Recruitment role in Jun 2024.
You'd presume Ashton was essentially entirely reliant on agents to do deals and KM did the large majority of the identification (hence why most were UK based players).
Not great, that is for sure ... |
They were dead chuffed with Kyogo too but that seems to have fallen apart, I quite liked the look of him, he'd have done a better job for us albeit they paid well over the odds for him | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 21:52 - Apr 20 with 1153 views | Blue_Heath |
| The "recruitment team" on 18:07 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
Do you really believe we signed Akpom just to stop Birmingham getting him? Come on...
Phillips was an exciting signing at the time. Few people predicted how that would go. |
No but like Cajuste a lazy signing jumping on thew work done by another club.
I think watching Phillips at WHU was a good indicator though we hoped McKenna would get him playing.
The OP has a fair point, very few signings have been anywhere near the level of the last promotion team. Better individuals on paper but certainly not as a team. | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 22:02 - Apr 20 with 1109 views | bournemouthblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 21:52 - Apr 20 by Blue_Heath |
No but like Cajuste a lazy signing jumping on thew work done by another club.
I think watching Phillips at WHU was a good indicator though we hoped McKenna would get him playing.
The OP has a fair point, very few signings have been anywhere near the level of the last promotion team. Better individuals on paper but certainly not as a team. |
Cajuste was seen as plan B for Hackney and again opportunistic, not that it has worked out any where near as well as we all hoped | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 22:07 - Apr 20 with 1072 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| The "recruitment team" on 22:02 - Apr 20 by bournemouthblue |
Cajuste was seen as plan B for Hackney and again opportunistic, not that it has worked out any where near as well as we all hoped |
You may well be right, but how can we be in a position where Cajuste is plan B to Hackney.
They are completely different players with completely different skillsets. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 22:13 - Apr 20 with 1050 views | bournemouthblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 22:07 - Apr 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
You may well be right, but how can we be in a position where Cajuste is plan B to Hackney.
They are completely different players with completely different skillsets. |
That is part of the problem there, I think Nunez was also partly a result of not getting Hackney also and Dan Neil with Cajuste not really working out either
Hopefully we do muddle through and have a Sunderlandesque recruitment window in the PL [Post edited 21 Apr 9:14]
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| The "recruitment team" on 22:14 - Apr 20 with 1039 views | waveneyblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 19:04 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is it a coincidence that the recruitment has gone downhill since Mike O'Leary left and Mark Ashton has no accountability?
Maybe.
I'm Ashton out because of his disgraceful behaviour anyway regardless of whether he is accountable for the recruitment. |
Give it a bloody rest, you're boring everyone now. |  | | |
| The "recruitment team" on 22:21 - Apr 20 with 1019 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 22:14 - Apr 20 by waveneyblue |
Give it a bloody rest, you're boring everyone now. |
I get it that you want Ashton to stay and are annoyed and bored that I won't shut up about it.
But I am not going to stop just because you don't like it.
Once he's gone, I will stop.
Ashton out! And you can downvote all you like. | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 22:41 - Apr 20 with 964 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The "recruitment team" on 22:21 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I get it that you want Ashton to stay and are annoyed and bored that I won't shut up about it.
But I am not going to stop just because you don't like it.
Once he's gone, I will stop.
Ashton out! And you can downvote all you like. |
Thing is you may well be right. Ashton said himself o leary stopped him doing things when ashton tried to do to much
We dont know but id like to know what o leary would have said when we started banging out millions of pounds on champ stat table players over actually scouting players to fit the actual profiles needed by the manager |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 22:45 - Apr 20 with 953 views | Illinoisblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 19:11 - Apr 20 by Bellevue_Blue |
Mick Courts was appointed Director of Recruitment after the transfer window in September and Peter Braund came in March.
There was a two-year gap between Sam Williams leaving the Head of Recruitment role in Jun 2024.
You'd presume Ashton was essentially entirely reliant on agents to do deals and KM did the large majority of the identification (hence why most were UK based players).
Not great, that is for sure ... |
Not a good look at all but I assume the counter from the club would be we rose so quickly and have been in a different division four (hopefully five) years running it’s hard to put a top level recruiting structure in place.
Would love the scoop on the Egeli deal. The massive fee is one thing, it’s more the question of what position is he supposed to play in. It’s not immediately clear. A huge outlay to take a gamble on. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 23:20 - Apr 20 with 869 views | itfcsuth |
Would have thought it’ll be a collective effort from Ashton down to be honest, suspect there are multiple inputs on our transfer business.
My spidey senses are telling me we haven’t quite the hang of this player trading game yet though. |  | | |
| The "recruitment team" on 07:34 - Apr 21 with 645 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 22:41 - Apr 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Thing is you may well be right. Ashton said himself o leary stopped him doing things when ashton tried to do to much
We dont know but id like to know what o leary would have said when we started banging out millions of pounds on champ stat table players over actually scouting players to fit the actual profiles needed by the manager |
One thing is for sure. Either O'Leary was paid to do an important role that is no longer being performed or we were wasting money on him.
I am certain the former is true rather than the latter.
The messes Ashton has repeatedly made since O'Leary has left are not coincidence. | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 09:06 - Apr 21 with 535 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The "recruitment team" on 19:04 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is it a coincidence that the recruitment has gone downhill since Mike O'Leary left and Mark Ashton has no accountability?
Maybe.
I'm Ashton out because of his disgraceful behaviour anyway regardless of whether he is accountable for the recruitment. |
I still maintain that of we don't get top two that will be down to Ashton's failure to replace Delap in two transfer windows, despite us knowing Delap was on his way since March last year. |  |
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| The "recruitment team" on 09:16 - Apr 21 with 489 views | bournemouthblue |
| The "recruitment team" on 09:06 - Apr 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I still maintain that of we don't get top two that will be down to Ashton's failure to replace Delap in two transfer windows, despite us knowing Delap was on his way since March last year. |
surely that's on McKenna and the recruitment team though?
McKenna seems to have a blind spot with strikers, what worries me slightly is Man U seemed to have the same problem when he was first team coach there as well | |
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| The "recruitment team" on 09:20 - Apr 21 with 466 views | Weekender |
| The "recruitment team" on 09:16 - Apr 21 by bournemouthblue |
surely that's on McKenna and the recruitment team though?
McKenna seems to have a blind spot with strikers, what worries me slightly is Man U seemed to have the same problem when he was first team coach there as well |
When you say Ashton's fault are you saying you think he has failed to identify a replacement or are you saying he has failed to complete a deal for a player/players that others have identified?
Im just interested how others perceive that the recruitment process works.
Sorry, this reply didn't link to the post I intended it to. [Post edited 21 Apr 9:31]
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