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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. 14:14 - May 8 with 5792 viewsSitfcB

Read here: https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/

Perhaps Ashton was ahead of the curve when meeting with Farage then?

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 15:55 - May 8 with 997 viewsBenters

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 14:52 - May 8 by BlueSmoke

You still seem really really grumpy, and unpleasant. Didn't you go for that spliff / walk as I advised?
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They don’t like it up em buh!

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 15:58 - May 8 with 979 viewsnoggin

Good, hopefully they'll stop all those small boats arriving in Aldeburgh and Southwold.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:01 - May 8 with 961 viewsZapatasMoustache

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 15:35 - May 8 by DJR

Interestingly, so far 62,000 people have voted Green, not that far behind Reform and ahead of the Tories, Labour and the Lib Dems.

Maybe the so-called green lefty bumfest that some say TWTD is reflects to an extent Suffolk as a whole.

It also suggest Polanski hasn't alienated the rural vote as some have said he has.
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On your final point, that's very clear. Greens have won a lot of rural seats, plus (it seems) better off medium sized towns? Reform have done better in suburban seats and less well off urban seats.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:08 - May 8 with 909 viewsBlueschev

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 15:58 - May 8 by noggin

Good, hopefully they'll stop all those small boats arriving in Aldeburgh and Southwold.


Stop all boats. It's the only way to be sure.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:08 - May 8 with 907 viewsSwansea_Blue

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 14:41 - May 8 by blueoutlook

Lot of tribal dimwits in the country then hey mate ? Nearly every council now has an awful lot of Reform councillors in them. What actually gives you the right to call people that anyway ? The dimwits are people like you who keep berating others just because they don’t have the same view as you. Nothing to say you are any better or any more right than those with opposite views. Just you giving it the big one. You don’t even live around here anyway, go tend your leaks.


Leaks? My plumbing is fine thanks as we’ve just had the bathroom done. Were you trying to make a xenophobic “joke” and meant leeks?

People can think whatever they want. It’s the people who are taking pleasure at winding people up to own the libs who are the tribal dimwits.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:12 - May 8 with 868 viewsDJR

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 15:16 - May 8 by DJR

And this still doesn't show any borough council results.

https://www.ipswich.gov.uk/you


Results on that link are coming through.

A quick glance suggests 4 Labour, 3 Reform and 1 Green.

Reform therefore haven't done as well, so far, as feared.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:13 - May 8 with 861 viewsleitrimblue

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 14:41 - May 8 by blueoutlook

Lot of tribal dimwits in the country then hey mate ? Nearly every council now has an awful lot of Reform councillors in them. What actually gives you the right to call people that anyway ? The dimwits are people like you who keep berating others just because they don’t have the same view as you. Nothing to say you are any better or any more right than those with opposite views. Just you giving it the big one. You don’t even live around here anyway, go tend your leaks.


'Go tend yer leaks' . That's proper comedy, excellent work Blueas True legend
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:13 - May 8 with 859 viewsSwansea_Blue

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 14:29 - May 8 by PhilTWTD

Except it's IBC who the club will be working with on that and they're already onside.


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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:43 - May 8 with 771 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Gross to think the club played a part in this.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:57 - May 8 with 747 viewsBrianTablet

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:08 - May 8 by Blueschev

Stop all boats. It's the only way to be sure.


Yes, have you seen Thorpeness Mere recently?
Boats crowded with terrified families desperately trying to flee from pirates, crocodiles and the exorbitant prices in the cafe.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:59 - May 8 with 731 viewsBlueschev

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:43 - May 8 by JammyDodgerrr

Gross to think the club played a part in this.


It was a very shrewd move in order to secure planning permission for future ground improvements, obviously.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:01 - May 8 with 711 viewsEwan_Oozami

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:57 - May 8 by BrianTablet

Yes, have you seen Thorpeness Mere recently?
Boats crowded with terrified families desperately trying to flee from pirates, crocodiles and the exorbitant prices in the cafe.

pAynT MOre RouNDABOuts
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And the parking is dreadful....

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:04 - May 8 with 696 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:01 - May 8 by Ewan_Oozami

And the parking is dreadful....


But can Reform stop erosion!

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:06 - May 8 with 688 viewsZx1988

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:59 - May 8 by Blueschev

It was a very shrewd move in order to secure planning permission for future ground improvements, obviously.


Except none of that is dealt with at County level, so there was no need to try and schmooze Führage.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:08 - May 8 with 684 viewsBrianTablet

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:59 - May 8 by Blueschev

It was a very shrewd move in order to secure planning permission for future ground improvements, obviously.


Using lobbying, bribery or coercion?

I guess, to be fair, this will be the way of Reform-run councils.
One huge grift.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:08 - May 8 with 683 viewsBrianTablet

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:04 - May 8 by BanksterDebtSlave

But can Reform stop erosion!


Not of morals and decency.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:16 - May 8 with 652 viewscressi

The best thing between now and a general election there will be so much chaos they won't get close to winning its helping the other parties long term to becoming more popular in the long term.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:20 - May 8 with 633 viewsZx1988

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:16 - May 8 by cressi

The best thing between now and a general election there will be so much chaos they won't get close to winning its helping the other parties long term to becoming more popular in the long term.


That's assuming that most voters are rational, and will apply critical thought to their decision in 2029.

Yarmouth, when presented with the choice between the racists and the ultra-racist fascists, opted unanimously for the fascists.

Even if there's chaos in Reform councils between now and 2029, you can quite easily see Führage trying to lay it at the door of the Government, and claim that the only way to make Reform councils work will be to elect a Reform government. And his target audience will lap it up.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:29 - May 8 with 598 viewsNthQldITFC

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 16:08 - May 8 by Blueschev

Stop all boats. It's the only way to be sure.


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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:31 - May 8 with 591 viewsmrfixit426

There's a part of me, a small part, that thinks Reform will flush out all the current poison in Parliament, all the people just looking out for themselves and then fold in on itself within 2 yrs. And this will kickstart Conservatives and Labour to clean house and start again. Politics has been infested by people out for themselves on all sides. Whatever happens over the next five years, it's going to be painful.

I voted LibDem and Green in locals btw, in case anyone thinks I have an agenda here.

I still maintain that if you want to be a politician, you shouldn't be a politician.
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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 18:25 - May 8 with 507 viewsGuthrum

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:31 - May 8 by mrfixit426

There's a part of me, a small part, that thinks Reform will flush out all the current poison in Parliament, all the people just looking out for themselves and then fold in on itself within 2 yrs. And this will kickstart Conservatives and Labour to clean house and start again. Politics has been infested by people out for themselves on all sides. Whatever happens over the next five years, it's going to be painful.

I voted LibDem and Green in locals btw, in case anyone thinks I have an agenda here.

I still maintain that if you want to be a politician, you shouldn't be a politician.


The problem with that last line is it excludes all the people who want to improve the country and society, who think that public service is a valuable contribution to things running well.

Admittedly, many of those end up disillusioned, due to grifting, stalling, inertia or party rigidity. However, they should be encouraged to at least try.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 18:29 - May 8 with 500 viewsGuthrum

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 17:20 - May 8 by Zx1988

That's assuming that most voters are rational, and will apply critical thought to their decision in 2029.

Yarmouth, when presented with the choice between the racists and the ultra-racist fascists, opted unanimously for the fascists.

Even if there's chaos in Reform councils between now and 2029, you can quite easily see Führage trying to lay it at the door of the Government, and claim that the only way to make Reform councils work will be to elect a Reform government. And his target audience will lap it up.


However, his target audience is not enough to get Reform over the line on their own. He'll need to persuade a large chunk of floating voters also. That is a much more difficult task.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 19:24 - May 8 with 418 viewsZx1988

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 18:29 - May 8 by Guthrum

However, his target audience is not enough to get Reform over the line on their own. He'll need to persuade a large chunk of floating voters also. That is a much more difficult task.


Maybe I'm feeling especially pessimistic after today, but I'm not sure that's the case?

It's a small sample, but take a look at the Norfolk County Council results:

https://elections.norfolk.gov.

Even where they've lost seats (barring Yarmouth, which is a bit of a special case) they've polled at least 25% of the vote.

If we're looking at there being five major parties on the ballot in 2029, they'll only need a minimum of 20%-25% of the vote in some seats, assuming that there'll be a fair few four-way marginal.

Given the success Reform have had today, and the incredibly low bar of the FPTP system, I think they'll be all but there in 2029 based on today's figures.

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 19:27 - May 8 with 410 viewsJ2BLUE

Seeing our county in Reform blue on the BBC map...

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Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 19:30 - May 8 with 387 viewsPaulYoungs

Reform UK has taken control of Suffolk County Council. on 19:27 - May 8 by J2BLUE

Seeing our county in Reform blue on the BBC map...



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