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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) 21:54 - May 13 with 6586 viewsSitfcB


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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:25 - May 13 with 1190 viewsRadioOrwell

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 22:13 - May 13 by redrickstuhaart

Thats a pen all day. Arm over his head. And it was given within the 5 minutes added on.


It wasn't over his head.
He headed the ball and the defender pushed his arm towards the ball.
Never ever a pen.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:32 - May 13 with 1168 viewsLibero

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 22:06 - May 13 by ITFC_Essex

That Celtic will probably win, again, for the millionth time, after getting all the decisions, and shockingly the exact amount of goals they need to win. They will win it next year too, and the year after...



Best team in the league win the league, shocking.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:34 - May 13 with 1162 viewsredrickstuhaart

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:25 - May 13 by RadioOrwell

It wasn't over his head.
He headed the ball and the defender pushed his arm towards the ball.
Never ever a pen.


Its pretty clear tbh. Perhaps a different view will change my mind, but the ball looks to hit hand and head. Hand is in front of his head. Not in a natural position. Its a pen.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:35 - May 13 with 1153 viewsLibero

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:34 - May 13 by redrickstuhaart

Its pretty clear tbh. Perhaps a different view will change my mind, but the ball looks to hit hand and head. Hand is in front of his head. Not in a natural position. Its a pen.


People love to hate Celtic, for... reasons.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:44 - May 13 with 1138 viewsTrequartista

My god just seen it, that's an appalling VAR decision. Hands in an unnatural position? So what - he headed it! Clear and obvious error? - lol.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:44 - May 13 with 1136 viewsRedX

Looked a clear penalty to me.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 00:55 - May 14 with 1091 viewsarmchaircritic59

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 21:56 - May 13 by ITFC_Essex

Celtic were always going to win that one, we 'rent they. They will win the league... again. Pointless league.


And pointless teams as things stand. Maybe it's time for some sort of filtering system to enable the best scottish clubs at any given time to enter the English pyramid, where and how I don't know. One thing I do know, a precedent will be well and truly set in the Championship next season as 12.5% will be Welsh!
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 03:31 - May 14 with 1044 viewsIllinoisblue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:44 - May 13 by RedX

Looked a clear penalty to me.


Before the cancer of VAR ruined football, nobody would have even thought for one second that was a penalty.

But now every kick and action must be forensically analysed in the name of… what, exactly?

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 06:28 - May 14 with 999 viewsiamatractorboy

Does anyone know what angles the ref saw on reviewing it? From the one angle shown on the highlights, there is not a chance in hell that is a clear and obvious error. You can't possibly say with any confidence that the ball touched his hand there.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 06:35 - May 14 with 985 viewsBlue_Heath

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:09 - May 13 by Nutkins_Return

I have to say it's one of the worst and most bizarre decisions I've ever seen. The only way I could understand a pen there is if the ref had given it accidentally in real time thinking hand ball. Then you would expect VAR to overturn it. How can anyone think that is handball on video given the physics of how that ball bounces off his head! A ball hitting a stationary hand does not bounce miles off into the sky. It's his head!

That needs investigating. Not one Celtic player appeals for handball. They are desperate but the only thing they ask for is for a foul.
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Nonsense, the guy had his arm in an unnatural position on his head, between the ball, it 100% touched his hand. Under laws of the game it's a penalty all day long.

As for no one appealing the only guy who could have seen it was on the floor.

How bitter was Boyd afterwards trying to create a narrative which seemingly many have fallen for.

If that happens v Brentford next year and we get a pen to stay up your view would be different right?

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 06:43 - May 14 with 948 viewsnoggin


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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 07:00 - May 14 with 938 viewsiamatractorboy

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 06:35 - May 14 by Blue_Heath

Nonsense, the guy had his arm in an unnatural position on his head, between the ball, it 100% touched his hand. Under laws of the game it's a penalty all day long.

As for no one appealing the only guy who could have seen it was on the floor.

How bitter was Boyd afterwards trying to create a narrative which seemingly many have fallen for.

If that happens v Brentford next year and we get a pen to stay up your view would be different right?


How on earth can you tell that from the replay? Apologies if there is a close up slo mo of the incident but the highlights I have seen only show a slo mo of the incident from the standard camera angle and there is not a chance you can say it definitely hit his hand. I'm thinking of the forensic detail the refs went into when trying to work out if there was a handball during that goal when Man Utd played Liverpool the other week. They had a close up and played it over and over and still weren't sure it hit his hand.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 07:27 - May 14 with 884 viewsGlasgowBlue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:34 - May 13 by redrickstuhaart

Its pretty clear tbh. Perhaps a different view will change my mind, but the ball looks to hit hand and head. Hand is in front of his head. Not in a natural position. Its a pen.


It’s a header. Look at the power. Clearly goes higher than where his hand is and hits his head.


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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 07:35 - May 14 with 866 viewsGlasgowBlue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 23:35 - May 13 by Libero

People love to hate Celtic, for... reasons.


No one is hating on Celtic. The vast majority of football fans are rooting for the underdog and would like to see someone from outwith the old firm win the league.

People are then pointing out the massive inconsistent decisions that have cost Heats two points on Saturday and gifted Celtic two points last night.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 07:55 - May 14 with 835 viewsSimonds92

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 00:55 - May 14 by armchaircritic59

And pointless teams as things stand. Maybe it's time for some sort of filtering system to enable the best scottish clubs at any given time to enter the English pyramid, where and how I don't know. One thing I do know, a precedent will be well and truly set in the Championship next season as 12.5% will be Welsh!


No way, let them have their pointless little league over there, we don't need to add another unbearable fan base to this pyramid. Can imagine them stuck in League 1 for 5 years having to be constantly reassured by the media that they're a massive club with an incredible fanbase.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:02 - May 14 with 815 viewsSwansea_Blue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 07:27 - May 14 by GlasgowBlue

It’s a header. Look at the power. Clearly goes higher than where his hand is and hits his head.



Good headed clearance. Can you show a clip of the debated penalty decision as well please.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:12 - May 14 with 796 viewsskinnybob72

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 06:28 - May 14 by iamatractorboy

Does anyone know what angles the ref saw on reviewing it? From the one angle shown on the highlights, there is not a chance in hell that is a clear and obvious error. You can't possibly say with any confidence that the ball touched his hand there.


He was shown the league table as it was with Celtic only drawing.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:12 - May 14 with 793 viewsHerbivore

Can't see how that is given on the angles I've seen. His arm is up but you can't tell from the footage whether it touches his hand or not, it's clear he gets a solid head on the ball and if it touches the hand at all it's the barest brush that you certainly can't make out from the TV angle. Ridiculous that VAR has asked the ref to take a look and even more ridiculous that he's given it so quickly. Would Hearts have been given it? I doubt it.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:17 - May 14 with 785 viewschicoazul

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:20 - May 14 with 771 viewsGlasgowBlue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:02 - May 14 by Swansea_Blue

Good headed clearance. Can you show a clip of the debated penalty decision as well please.



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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:27 - May 14 with 744 viewsHerbivore

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:20 - May 14 by GlasgowBlue



Think that would have been very soft personally. But more of a pen than the one Celtic got and it's that inconsistency that's problematic.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:33 - May 14 with 725 viewsSwansea_Blue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 06:35 - May 14 by Blue_Heath

Nonsense, the guy had his arm in an unnatural position on his head, between the ball, it 100% touched his hand. Under laws of the game it's a penalty all day long.

As for no one appealing the only guy who could have seen it was on the floor.

How bitter was Boyd afterwards trying to create a narrative which seemingly many have fallen for.

If that happens v Brentford next year and we get a pen to stay up your view would be different right?


I don't think it's obvious under the rules. It's very much up for debate.

"Law 12:
It is an offence if a player:
- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball"

It doesn't look deliberate to me, the arm is up for the dual but he doesn't move it away from the natural motion of the jump and towards the ball instead.

"- touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised"
(my emphasis)
There's a good argument the hand is in a position justifiable because of jumping with the opposition. He's leaning off his opponent, trying to get above him.

Next, despite a justifiable position being allowed the rules are unclear as they say the player takes a risk of being penalised. That's a very messy/unclear part of the rule. If they are allowed to do something, they shouldn't then be taking a risk by doing it.

It definitely hits his hand, but I'd be interested to hear the ref's reasoning for why he thought the arm wasn't in a justifiable position or why he thought it was deliberate.

It's one of those where you risk it being given and we do see them given. But it's not clear whether they should be given under the rules. It's not part of the rules (and maybe it should be) but he gains no advantage at all.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:44 - May 14 with 682 viewsSwansea_Blue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:20 - May 14 by GlasgowBlue



Blimey. Echos of Tayls coming in from the blind side and getting caught at Norwich.

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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:47 - May 14 with 670 viewsLibero

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 00:55 - May 14 by armchaircritic59

And pointless teams as things stand. Maybe it's time for some sort of filtering system to enable the best scottish clubs at any given time to enter the English pyramid, where and how I don't know. One thing I do know, a precedent will be well and truly set in the Championship next season as 12.5% will be Welsh!


It’ll never happen, purely because a whole host of clubs don’t want Celtic over taking them rapidly. If the bhoys had the kind of funding on offer in the Premier League, they’d be unstoppable.
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Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:51 - May 14 with 650 viewsGlasgowBlue

Pure corruption in Scotland. (n/t) on 08:47 - May 14 by Libero

It’ll never happen, purely because a whole host of clubs don’t want Celtic over taking them rapidly. If the bhoys had the kind of funding on offer in the Premier League, they’d be unstoppable.


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