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Eurovision song contest on 00:10 - May 17 by redrickstuhaart
It was a godawful piece of 90s sounding german techno.
Agreed. The last two times we made an effort was Love Shine A Light, which deservedly won, and Spaceman which should have won but because the Ukraine war has just started, came second to the Ukraine.
When the UK finally realise that pumping millions into this contest in order for it to be staged is less important than the songs they present for competition then we would be getting far better results.
Good songwriting is good songwriting. It's a song contest. It's not that hard to work out how to win.
Sam Ryder's song that came second was co-written by Amy Wadge - a hugely talented songwriter who has won a Grammy co-writing with Ed Sheeran (Shape of You, I think)
They clearly haven't learned any lessons from our occasional successes. It's like they are trying too hard to be 'Eurovision friendly' when the simple answer is, just write a bloody good song.
Eurovision song contest on 00:08 - May 17 by Sarge
‘No one likes us, we don’t try’ would be more appropriate
There is a lot of love for UK in the scandinavian countries, and probably in many more as well, but the songs from UK the last 20 years have been poor at best. As you say, it appears you dont care or have given up. In Scandinavia none of the top artists or respected artists would participate in it, but for the layer just under it is seen as a good opportunity so often people from televised talent shows such as idol participates.
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Eurovision song contest on 07:37 - May 17 with 1886 views
Agreed. The last two times we made an effort was Love Shine A Light, which deservedly won, and Spaceman which should have won but because the Ukraine war has just started, came second to the Ukraine.
When the UK finally realise that pumping millions into this contest in order for it to be staged is less important than the songs they present for competition then we would be getting far better results.
Good songwriting is good songwriting. It's a song contest. It's not that hard to work out how to win.
Sam Ryder's song that came second was co-written by Amy Wadge - a hugely talented songwriter who has won a Grammy co-writing with Ed Sheeran (Shape of You, I think)
They clearly haven't learned any lessons from our occasional successes. It's like they are trying too hard to be 'Eurovision friendly' when the simple answer is, just write a bloody good song.
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What a load of claptrap. Music is subjective - part of the fun of Eurovision is being baffled at some godawful dirge getting high scores. And then, of course, the political voting.
If "it's not that hard to work out how to win", why don't you write our next entry? This year's was a youtuber who sent something in to the UK panel, so there's nothing stopping you!
Eurovision song contest on 11:22 - May 17 by RadioOrwell
Was it significantly worse than the winner ? I know she had hot pants and everything but ... oh
Was there not a massive sense of cultural appropriation about the winner? I have literally only seen 30 seconds, but some white Bulgarian women repeatedly making noise with a tone / accent that sounds like some agressive Jamaican ragamuffin type stuff?
What a load of claptrap. Music is subjective - part of the fun of Eurovision is being baffled at some godawful dirge getting high scores. And then, of course, the political voting.
If "it's not that hard to work out how to win", why don't you write our next entry? This year's was a youtuber who sent something in to the UK panel, so there's nothing stopping you!
Wow. Ok, hun. I obviously hit a nerve.
I do write songs, but don't care to write one for that competition, thanks.
Enjoy your Sunday. "Try to choose the path of being nice".
What a load of claptrap. Music is subjective - part of the fun of Eurovision is being baffled at some godawful dirge getting high scores. And then, of course, the political voting.
If "it's not that hard to work out how to win", why don't you write our next entry? This year's was a youtuber who sent something in to the UK panel, so there's nothing stopping you!
Not entirely true. Music taste is, certainly, subjective, however popular music is normally formulaic.
Outside of some exceptions, chart topping music tends to follow certain formulas. Stock, Aitken and Waterman made a career out of it.
(usual caveats apply, your mileage may vary, returns can go down as well as up, consult your medical practitioner)
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Eurovision song contest on 12:28 - May 17 with 1098 views
Agreed. The last two times we made an effort was Love Shine A Light, which deservedly won, and Spaceman which should have won but because the Ukraine war has just started, came second to the Ukraine.
When the UK finally realise that pumping millions into this contest in order for it to be staged is less important than the songs they present for competition then we would be getting far better results.
Good songwriting is good songwriting. It's a song contest. It's not that hard to work out how to win.
Sam Ryder's song that came second was co-written by Amy Wadge - a hugely talented songwriter who has won a Grammy co-writing with Ed Sheeran (Shape of You, I think)
They clearly haven't learned any lessons from our occasional successes. It's like they are trying too hard to be 'Eurovision friendly' when the simple answer is, just write a bloody good song.
[Post edited 17 May 0:27]
Bang on. A lot of people seem to think it’s this contest that pops up out of nowhere once a year but for many of the other countries it’s the end of a months-long public process of national selections and public votes etc.
A lot of people in this country also consider it a joke contest for a bit of a laugh which is not how it’s treated in most other countries. Sweden’s selection process is one of the biggest events of the year, Italy’s is selected via the biggest music festival in the country.
With the exception of last night, good songs tend to do well whether they’re serious or not. Ukraine 2007 being a prime example, bizarre but catchy and memorable. Espresso Machiatto last year was similar in style to ours this year except more put together musically and memorable and thus came third.
Bottom line is aside from a rare success in 2022 we put in crap songs decided by committee in a BBC office somewhere instead of getting the public on board like almost every other successful broadcaster.
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Eurovision song contest on 12:39 - May 17 with 1062 views
I do write songs, but don't care to write one for that competition, thanks.
Enjoy your Sunday. "Try to choose the path of being nice".
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If you don't mind me asking, why don't you wish to write a song for Eurovision? And if other British songwriters are taking the same approach perhaps that's why we're struggling.