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Eurovision song contest 00:07 - May 17 with 3157 viewsessexpaul64

Uk came last with just 1 point. Are we the millwall of Eurovision. No one likes us, we dont care
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Eurovision song contest on 00:08 - May 17 with 2243 viewsSarge

‘No one likes us, we don’t try’ would be more appropriate
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Eurovision song contest on 00:10 - May 17 with 2220 viewsredrickstuhaart

It was a godawful piece of 90s sounding german techno.

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Eurovision song contest on 00:15 - May 17 with 2190 viewsMattinLondon

Just like Millwall, no one really cares.
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Eurovision song contest on 00:19 - May 17 with 2163 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Eurovision song contest on 00:10 - May 17 by redrickstuhaart

It was a godawful piece of 90s sounding german techno.


It was, but was still better than 6 or 7 of the others.

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Eurovision song contest on 00:20 - May 17 with 2165 viewsSitfcB

Eurovision song contest on 00:19 - May 17 by Cheltenham_Blue

It was, but was still better than 6 or 7 of the others.



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Eurovision song contest on 00:25 - May 17 with 2143 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

Eurovision song contest on 00:10 - May 17 by redrickstuhaart

It was a godawful piece of 90s sounding german techno.


Agreed. The last two times we made an effort was Love Shine A Light, which deservedly won, and Spaceman which should have won but because the Ukraine war has just started, came second to the Ukraine.

When the UK finally realise that pumping millions into this contest in order for it to be staged is less important than the songs they present for competition then we would be getting far better results.

Good songwriting is good songwriting. It's a song contest. It's not that hard to work out how to win.

Sam Ryder's song that came second was co-written by Amy Wadge - a hugely talented songwriter who has won a Grammy co-writing with Ed Sheeran (Shape of You, I think)

They clearly haven't learned any lessons from our occasional successes. It's like they are trying too hard to be 'Eurovision friendly' when the simple answer is, just write a bloody good song.
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Eurovision song contest on 07:31 - May 17 with 1924 viewsStockholmBlue

Eurovision song contest on 00:08 - May 17 by Sarge

‘No one likes us, we don’t try’ would be more appropriate


There is a lot of love for UK in the scandinavian countries, and probably in many more as well, but the songs from UK the last 20 years have been poor at best. As you say, it appears you dont care or have given up. In Scandinavia none of the top artists or respected artists would participate in it, but for the layer just under it is seen as a good opportunity so often people from televised talent shows such as idol participates.

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Eurovision song contest on 07:37 - May 17 with 1886 viewsBenters

Good poke your Eurovision where the sun doesn’t shine.

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Eurovision song contest on 07:40 - May 17 with 1883 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Eurovision song contest on 00:25 - May 17 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Agreed. The last two times we made an effort was Love Shine A Light, which deservedly won, and Spaceman which should have won but because the Ukraine war has just started, came second to the Ukraine.

When the UK finally realise that pumping millions into this contest in order for it to be staged is less important than the songs they present for competition then we would be getting far better results.

Good songwriting is good songwriting. It's a song contest. It's not that hard to work out how to win.

Sam Ryder's song that came second was co-written by Amy Wadge - a hugely talented songwriter who has won a Grammy co-writing with Ed Sheeran (Shape of You, I think)

They clearly haven't learned any lessons from our occasional successes. It's like they are trying too hard to be 'Eurovision friendly' when the simple answer is, just write a bloody good song.
[Post edited 17 May 0:27]


What a load of claptrap. Music is subjective - part of the fun of Eurovision is being baffled at some godawful dirge getting high scores. And then, of course, the political voting.

If "it's not that hard to work out how to win", why don't you write our next entry? This year's was a youtuber who sent something in to the UK panel, so there's nothing stopping you!

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Eurovision song contest on 07:50 - May 17 with 1851 viewsBogblue

Eurovision song contest on 07:37 - May 17 by Benters

Good poke your Eurovision where the sun doesn’t shine.


Bang on, it's a load of old horse poo
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Eurovision song contest on 07:54 - May 17 with 1820 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Eurovision song contest on 07:50 - May 17 by Bogblue

Bang on, it's a load of old horse poo


Why are you and Benters in this thread if you don't like it? It's clearly labelled.

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Eurovision song contest (n/t) on 07:59 - May 17 with 1796 viewsRyorry

Eurovision song contest on 07:54 - May 17 by The_Flashing_Smile

Why are you and Benters in this thread if you don't like it? It's clearly labelled.


[Post edited 17 May 8:00]

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Eurovision song contest (n/t) on 08:51 - May 17 with 1706 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Eurovision song contest (n/t) on 07:59 - May 17 by Ryorry

[Post edited 17 May 8:00]


Would love to know what you posted before you changed your mind. Or maybe I wouldn't. It's early Sunday morning, try to choose the path of being nice.

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Eurovision song contest on 09:55 - May 17 with 1593 viewsLandOfMickyStockwell

I thought Dara did brilliantly last night. Captained his country AND won a song contest!

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Eurovision song contest on 09:58 - May 17 with 1586 viewsLeaky

Well we ain't the Southampton are we.
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Eurovision song contest on 10:02 - May 17 with 1569 viewsWarkystache

Eurovision song contest on 07:50 - May 17 by Bogblue

Bang on, it's a load of old horse poo



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Eurovision song contest on 10:21 - May 17 with 1521 viewsredrickstuhaart

Eurovision song contest on 10:02 - May 17 by Warkystache



Funnily enough, I am confident that the composer of that song could write and perform a succesful eurovision tune now if he chose.

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Eurovision song contest on 10:38 - May 17 with 1422 viewsHerbivore

Does anyone actually care about Eurovision? It's dross and I imagine most people who still watch it are doing so ironically.

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Eurovision song contest on 11:11 - May 17 with 1362 viewsjas0999

It was a dreadful song. Performed by some bloke who just ran around shouting. One point was far too many!
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Eurovision song contest on 11:22 - May 17 with 1325 viewsRadioOrwell

Eurovision song contest on 00:10 - May 17 by redrickstuhaart

It was a godawful piece of 90s sounding german techno.


Was it significantly worse than the winner ?
I know she had hot pants and everything but ...
oh
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Eurovision song contest on 11:45 - May 17 with 1271 viewsredrickstuhaart

Eurovision song contest on 11:22 - May 17 by RadioOrwell

Was it significantly worse than the winner ?
I know she had hot pants and everything but ...
oh


Was there not a massive sense of cultural appropriation about the winner? I have literally only seen 30 seconds, but some white Bulgarian women repeatedly making noise with a tone / accent that sounds like some agressive Jamaican ragamuffin type stuff?

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Eurovision song contest on 11:55 - May 17 with 1209 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

Eurovision song contest on 07:40 - May 17 by The_Flashing_Smile

What a load of claptrap. Music is subjective - part of the fun of Eurovision is being baffled at some godawful dirge getting high scores. And then, of course, the political voting.

If "it's not that hard to work out how to win", why don't you write our next entry? This year's was a youtuber who sent something in to the UK panel, so there's nothing stopping you!


Wow. Ok, hun. I obviously hit a nerve.

I do write songs, but don't care to write one for that competition, thanks.

Enjoy your Sunday. "Try to choose the path of being nice".
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Eurovision song contest on 12:11 - May 17 with 1140 viewsTheMoralMajority

Eurovision song contest on 07:40 - May 17 by The_Flashing_Smile

What a load of claptrap. Music is subjective - part of the fun of Eurovision is being baffled at some godawful dirge getting high scores. And then, of course, the political voting.

If "it's not that hard to work out how to win", why don't you write our next entry? This year's was a youtuber who sent something in to the UK panel, so there's nothing stopping you!


Not entirely true. Music taste is, certainly, subjective, however popular music is normally formulaic.

Outside of some exceptions, chart topping music tends to follow certain formulas. Stock, Aitken and Waterman made a career out of it.

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Eurovision song contest on 12:28 - May 17 with 1098 viewsSarge

Eurovision song contest on 00:25 - May 17 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Agreed. The last two times we made an effort was Love Shine A Light, which deservedly won, and Spaceman which should have won but because the Ukraine war has just started, came second to the Ukraine.

When the UK finally realise that pumping millions into this contest in order for it to be staged is less important than the songs they present for competition then we would be getting far better results.

Good songwriting is good songwriting. It's a song contest. It's not that hard to work out how to win.

Sam Ryder's song that came second was co-written by Amy Wadge - a hugely talented songwriter who has won a Grammy co-writing with Ed Sheeran (Shape of You, I think)

They clearly haven't learned any lessons from our occasional successes. It's like they are trying too hard to be 'Eurovision friendly' when the simple answer is, just write a bloody good song.
[Post edited 17 May 0:27]


Bang on. A lot of people seem to think it’s this contest that pops up out of nowhere once a year but for many of the other countries it’s the end of a months-long public process of national selections and public votes etc.

A lot of people in this country also consider it a joke contest for a bit of a laugh which is not how it’s treated in most other countries. Sweden’s selection process is one of the biggest events of the year, Italy’s is selected via the biggest music festival in the country.

With the exception of last night, good songs tend to do well whether they’re serious or not. Ukraine 2007 being a prime example, bizarre but catchy and memorable. Espresso Machiatto last year was similar in style to ours this year except more put together musically and memorable and thus came third.

Bottom line is aside from a rare success in 2022 we put in crap songs decided by committee in a BBC office somewhere instead of getting the public on board like almost every other successful broadcaster.
[Post edited 17 May 12:29]
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Eurovision song contest on 12:39 - May 17 with 1062 viewspointofblue

Eurovision song contest on 11:55 - May 17 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Wow. Ok, hun. I obviously hit a nerve.

I do write songs, but don't care to write one for that competition, thanks.

Enjoy your Sunday. "Try to choose the path of being nice".
[Post edited 17 May 12:01]


If you don't mind me asking, why don't you wish to write a song for Eurovision? And if other British songwriters are taking the same approach perhaps that's why we're struggling.

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