| Annoying 07:34 - Jun 18 with 1732 views | ringwoodblue |
I really enjoyed the game last night but one thing that I’ve realised annoys me is Pickford (he generally annoys me) kept hopping backwards with the ball. I saw Walton do it a few times this season as well. Since when has that been a thing? |  |
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| Annoying on 07:41 - Jun 18 with 1646 views | Churchman |
I don’t rate him particularly. Good shot stopper but has a clownish element to him. |  | | |
| Annoying on 07:49 - Jun 18 with 1596 views | _CliveBaker_ |
That and his insistence on punching everything. |  | | |
| Annoying on 07:52 - Jun 18 with 1579 views | Simonds92 |
| Annoying on 07:41 - Jun 18 by Churchman |
I don’t rate him particularly. Good shot stopper but has a clownish element to him. |
Just the best English goalkeeper for the last 40 odd years 😂 |  | | |
| Annoying on 07:54 - Jun 18 with 1569 views | Keno |
| Annoying on 07:49 - Jun 18 by _CliveBaker_ |
That and his insistence on punching everything. |
I noticed this last night and could hear my old Northgate games master shouting 'you have two hand catch the B****y thing" |  |
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| Annoying on 08:02 - Jun 18 with 1517 views | Churchman |
| Annoying on 07:52 - Jun 18 by Simonds92 |
Just the best English goalkeeper for the last 40 odd years 😂 |
Is that him or better players in front of him? Open question as my impression of him might be totally wrong. | | | |
| Annoying on 08:02 - Jun 18 with 1514 views | GeoffSentence |
| Annoying on 07:41 - Jun 18 by Churchman |
I don’t rate him particularly. Good shot stopper but has a clownish element to him. |
I'm not convinced by him either. Everything he does looks scruffy and awkward. He puts the defence under pressure with some bad decision, choosing to punch (poorly) when there's a simple catch on, poor choice of pass, for example. I'm not sure he's even that good a shot stopper. |  |
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| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 with 1323 views | RIPbobby |
It looked like Croatia targeted him with long shots. They did quite a few. |  | | |
| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 with 1323 views | NedPlimpton |
| Annoying on 07:52 - Jun 18 by Simonds92 |
Just the best English goalkeeper for the last 40 odd years 😂 |
Interesting. I presume you're thinking since Shilton
I'd go
1. Seaman
2. Flowers (would have played a lot more if it wasn't for Seaman)
=3. Robinson
=3. Pickford |  | | |
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| Annoying on 09:34 - Jun 18 with 1085 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Annoying on 07:41 - Jun 18 by Churchman |
I don’t rate him particularly. Good shot stopper but has a clownish element to him. |
Probably England's best and most consistent performer of the last decade.
Top keeper. |  |
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| Annoying on 12:51 - Jun 18 with 824 views | RonFearonsHair |
| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 by NedPlimpton |
Interesting. I presume you're thinking since Shilton
I'd go
1. Seaman
2. Flowers (would have played a lot more if it wasn't for Seaman)
=3. Robinson
=3. Pickford |
I always rated Nigel Martyn higher than Tim Flowers. |  | | |
| Annoying on 13:13 - Jun 18 with 753 views | NedPlimpton |
| Annoying on 12:51 - Jun 18 by RonFearonsHair |
I always rated Nigel Martyn higher than Tim Flowers. |
It could be nostalgia, but it does seem we were pretty stacked for decent keepers in the 90s
Seaman, Martyn, Flowers, Walker, Woods, an emerging David James
Maybe they'd all be useless now as I'm sure none of them were any good with their feet | | | |
| Annoying on 13:15 - Jun 18 with 735 views | hoppy |
| Annoying on 07:54 - Jun 18 by Keno |
I noticed this last night and could hear my old Northgate games master shouting 'you have two hand catch the B****y thing" |
Blimey, you did well to hear him over the rest of the stadium crowd noise. |  |
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| Annoying on 13:44 - Jun 18 with 665 views | farkenhell |
| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 by NedPlimpton |
Interesting. I presume you're thinking since Shilton
I'd go
1. Seaman
2. Flowers (would have played a lot more if it wasn't for Seaman)
=3. Robinson
=3. Pickford |
Robinson was absolutely awful for England. I remember a World Cup/ European Championship game against Sweden (I think) when from a long throw, he allowed the ball to bounce two or three times, didn't get anywhere near it and gave the opposition forward the easiest goal. Not his only error at that time. Awful keeper. | | | |
| Annoying on 13:48 - Jun 18 with 644 views | MattinLondon |
| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 by NedPlimpton |
Interesting. I presume you're thinking since Shilton
I'd go
1. Seaman
2. Flowers (would have played a lot more if it wasn't for Seaman)
=3. Robinson
=3. Pickford |
Speaking about Shilton, why was he the main England keeper for so long?
At Italia 90 (first WC that I can really remember) he could barely move - were all the other English keepers abysmal? |  | | |
| Annoying on 17:07 - Jun 18 with 486 views | LeoMuff |
| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 by NedPlimpton |
Interesting. I presume you're thinking since Shilton
I'd go
1. Seaman
2. Flowers (would have played a lot more if it wasn't for Seaman)
=3. Robinson
=3. Pickford |
How could Flowers and Robinson be above Pickford ?? |  |
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| Annoying on 17:12 - Jun 18 with 456 views | itfc2021 |
I think it's a way to bait players into pressing you in order to open up space and passing angles, then bypass their press. [Post edited 18 Jun 17:18]
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| Annoying on 17:23 - Jun 18 with 409 views | Bluespeed225 |
| Annoying on 13:48 - Jun 18 by MattinLondon |
Speaking about Shilton, why was he the main England keeper for so long?
At Italia 90 (first WC that I can really remember) he could barely move - were all the other English keepers abysmal? |
I think Chris Woods was there, and Dave Beasant certainly was! Woods was Graham Taylor’s choice after Shilton hit pensionable age. Seems crazy that in 2010 we were down to Rob Greene.. | | | |
| Annoying on 17:27 - Jun 18 with 387 views | SE1blue |
I like him. Think he had an up and down game last night but he’s been so solid for us.
And he can save a penalty in a shoot out which his predecessors always found difficult. |  |
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| Annoying on 18:09 - Jun 18 with 297 views | Simonds92 |
| Annoying on 08:41 - Jun 18 by NedPlimpton |
Interesting. I presume you're thinking since Shilton
I'd go
1. Seaman
2. Flowers (would have played a lot more if it wasn't for Seaman)
=3. Robinson
=3. Pickford |
Well i can only go off the ones I've seen in my lifetime so not really sure on Shilton to compare him. I'd have Pickford clearly above the ones you have listed though. | | | |
| Annoying on 18:17 - Jun 18 with 269 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Annoying on 13:13 - Jun 18 by NedPlimpton |
It could be nostalgia, but it does seem we were pretty stacked for decent keepers in the 90s
Seaman, Martyn, Flowers, Walker, Woods, an emerging David James
Maybe they'd all be useless now as I'm sure none of them were any good with their feet |
I always thought Nigel Martyn was massively under appreciated. |  |
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| Annoying on 18:19 - Jun 18 with 247 views | NedPlimpton |
| Annoying on 18:09 - Jun 18 by Simonds92 |
Well i can only go off the ones I've seen in my lifetime so not really sure on Shilton to compare him. I'd have Pickford clearly above the ones you have listed though. |
Definitely an argument to be made for Pickford being above the others but Seaman was miles ahead | | | |
| Annoying on 18:20 - Jun 18 with 239 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Annoying on 13:48 - Jun 18 by MattinLondon |
Speaking about Shilton, why was he the main England keeper for so long?
At Italia 90 (first WC that I can really remember) he could barely move - were all the other English keepers abysmal? |
He was sadly past it by 1990. Chris Woods and Dave Beasant were 2 and 3 but nowhere near international class.
Banks then Shilton and Clemence were great goalies. |  |
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| Annoying on 18:31 - Jun 18 with 164 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Annoying on 18:20 - Jun 18 by GlasgowBlue |
He was sadly past it by 1990. Chris Woods and Dave Beasant were 2 and 3 but nowhere near international class.
Banks then Shilton and Clemence were great goalies. |
I remember we played Plymouth in the league cup maybe 2-3 years later and poor old Shilts was beaten by a Neil Thompson 25 yarder. It swerved a bit but he sort of dived with his feet in mud and didn't leave the ground! Always stuck with me.
In the early 80's Shilton was top notch at his peak though. Is it sacrilege to say we would have won the title if we had him or Jennings in goal for us? (probably) | | | |
| Annoying on 18:37 - Jun 18 with 135 views | Churchman |
| Annoying on 18:31 - Jun 18 by burnbudgiesburn |
I remember we played Plymouth in the league cup maybe 2-3 years later and poor old Shilts was beaten by a Neil Thompson 25 yarder. It swerved a bit but he sort of dived with his feet in mud and didn't leave the ground! Always stuck with me.
In the early 80's Shilton was top notch at his peak though. Is it sacrilege to say we would have won the title if we had him or Jennings in goal for us? (probably) |
No it is not sacrilege. I think we would have won the league probably twice had we got Jennings in - which we very nearly did. In 76/77 and 80/81.
Cooper did well, but Jennings with those shovel sized hands was a step up.
Yes, Shilton in his time was brilliant. But it’s often the case as keepers get old, he did look like his feet were glued to the ground. | | | |
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