| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… 17:26 - Jun 22 with 5757 views | SitfcB |
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Let’s hope him and others are proved very wrong, looks like it may be siege mentality!
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:36 - Jun 22 with 3873 views | Billywitch |
I'm rather excited to give him a chance. He may have take onboard his previous mistakes/failures worked on them, and improved.
Strikes me as an intelligent guy, so he'd be looking at how he can improve and realizing doing the same thing over and over likely wont result in a different outcome |  | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:36 - Jun 22 with 3855 views | BiGDonnie |
So a young gaffer that cannot control the dressing room.
What could possibly go wrong! |  |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:39 - Jun 22 with 3782 views | Vic |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:36 - Jun 22 by BiGDonnie |
So a young gaffer that cannot control the dressing room.
What could possibly go wrong! |
What we dont know is whether or what ge learnt from Wolves. Thats the key thing. |  |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:39 - Jun 22 with 3780 views | bsw72 |
If anyone should know about hiring the wrong manager it's Simon Jordan - and let's not forget what an upstanding club chairman he was - so honest and transparent . . .
Steve Coppell (August 2000)
Alan Smith (April 2001)
Steve Bruce (November 2001)
Trevor Francis (April 2003)
Steve Kember (November 2003).
Iain Dowie, (December 2003)
Peter Taylor (June 2006)
Neil Warnock (October 2007) |  | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:40 - Jun 22 with 3746 views | BiGDonnie |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:39 - Jun 22 by Vic |
What we dont know is whether or what ge learnt from Wolves. Thats the key thing. |
Yup. I also don't think we've got any close to what Cunha was/is clearly like. | |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:42 - Jun 22 with 3672 views | Rozeeboy74 |
In fairness, some rotten apples can't be restrained and I don't think we have anyone like Cunha or would sign anyone with that personality. He was clearly using Wolves as a stepping stone. | | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:45 - Jun 22 with 3582 views | tetchris |
Trouble with MA is lack of accountability. Americans have told him to get on with it so he can basically hire who he likes. The GON signing feels like a good one for MA but not for the long term success of the club. Obviously we don’t know who applied for the job, who wasn’t interested or couldn’t start immediately due to being a World Cup year but Jordan could be right. GON lost the plot at Wolves and although he typically has a first good season, the wheels come off during the second season and he gets sacked. I don’t think Jordan mentioned who he thought would be a better fit, but he’s right. There has been noise around KM for some time now so MA should have had a succession plan in place. Should we have taken a risk with Pert? Keith Andrew’s has surprised us all. First job as a PL manager, club sold some of its best players but they still had a good season. MA says it’s a risk to give someone their first job in management in the PL, but I’m not convinced giving it to a man who has failed twice previously in the PL is the right man either. I fear we will end up being a club stuck in the championship for years rather than being a regular one in the PL. | | | |
| I don’t think anyone could state that O’Neil is the perfect choice, or a…. on 17:46 - Jun 22 with 3568 views | unstableblue |
… strong choice.
But he may be right choice for us to achieve the goal of 17th place.
There’s no way he is a strong choice, with the future growth of the club / footballing side of the club in mind.
Jordan is making a career out of being controversial and outspoken but his view on O’Neil will be widely shared in footballing circles - and was certainly the view of Bournemouth and Wolves hierarchy.
But who else was really available? And he’s our manager now - I listen to the Semenyo interview and a few other voices, and it’s clear he does have some attributes. Plus he will have learnt from his previous roles. And our dressing room is far more cohesive than Wolves.
I hope he can galvanise the dressing room, and one way that is achieved is with strong backing from the fans in that first match.
The Liverpool atmosphere last season was remarkable and drove a strong performance and we need more of the same against Sunderland.
Back the guy and let’s see where we end up. [Post edited 22 Jun 17:53]
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:46 - Jun 22 with 3557 views | MattinLondon |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:42 - Jun 22 by Rozeeboy74 |
In fairness, some rotten apples can't be restrained and I don't think we have anyone like Cunha or would sign anyone with that personality. He was clearly using Wolves as a stepping stone. |
Any footballer with an ounce of ambition would use Wolves as a stepping stone to joining a club like Man United.
Fans only see one side to footballers personalities - I’m sure many opposition fans would think that Sam Morsy is a complete bell end. |  | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:49 - Jun 22 with 3452 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:45 - Jun 22 by tetchris |
Trouble with MA is lack of accountability. Americans have told him to get on with it so he can basically hire who he likes. The GON signing feels like a good one for MA but not for the long term success of the club. Obviously we don’t know who applied for the job, who wasn’t interested or couldn’t start immediately due to being a World Cup year but Jordan could be right. GON lost the plot at Wolves and although he typically has a first good season, the wheels come off during the second season and he gets sacked. I don’t think Jordan mentioned who he thought would be a better fit, but he’s right. There has been noise around KM for some time now so MA should have had a succession plan in place. Should we have taken a risk with Pert? Keith Andrew’s has surprised us all. First job as a PL manager, club sold some of its best players but they still had a good season. MA says it’s a risk to give someone their first job in management in the PL, but I’m not convinced giving it to a man who has failed twice previously in the PL is the right man either. I fear we will end up being a club stuck in the championship for years rather than being a regular one in the PL. |
I get all this BUT tell us all who you’d have then |  |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:50 - Jun 22 with 3405 views | SheffordBlue |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:45 - Jun 22 by tetchris |
Trouble with MA is lack of accountability. Americans have told him to get on with it so he can basically hire who he likes. The GON signing feels like a good one for MA but not for the long term success of the club. Obviously we don’t know who applied for the job, who wasn’t interested or couldn’t start immediately due to being a World Cup year but Jordan could be right. GON lost the plot at Wolves and although he typically has a first good season, the wheels come off during the second season and he gets sacked. I don’t think Jordan mentioned who he thought would be a better fit, but he’s right. There has been noise around KM for some time now so MA should have had a succession plan in place. Should we have taken a risk with Pert? Keith Andrew’s has surprised us all. First job as a PL manager, club sold some of its best players but they still had a good season. MA says it’s a risk to give someone their first job in management in the PL, but I’m not convinced giving it to a man who has failed twice previously in the PL is the right man either. I fear we will end up being a club stuck in the championship for years rather than being a regular one in the PL. |
I'd be amazed if he hasn't had to justify to the owership in quite a bit of detail both the process of how he was going to select the new manager and how he got to the decision at the end of that process.
He seems to have a lot of autonomy but I'm not buying the idea he's been allowed to have his own pick without any reference back to the owners. | |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:50 - Jun 22 with 3398 views | Vic |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:45 - Jun 22 by tetchris |
Trouble with MA is lack of accountability. Americans have told him to get on with it so he can basically hire who he likes. The GON signing feels like a good one for MA but not for the long term success of the club. Obviously we don’t know who applied for the job, who wasn’t interested or couldn’t start immediately due to being a World Cup year but Jordan could be right. GON lost the plot at Wolves and although he typically has a first good season, the wheels come off during the second season and he gets sacked. I don’t think Jordan mentioned who he thought would be a better fit, but he’s right. There has been noise around KM for some time now so MA should have had a succession plan in place. Should we have taken a risk with Pert? Keith Andrew’s has surprised us all. First job as a PL manager, club sold some of its best players but they still had a good season. MA says it’s a risk to give someone their first job in management in the PL, but I’m not convinced giving it to a man who has failed twice previously in the PL is the right man either. I fear we will end up being a club stuck in the championship for years rather than being a regular one in the PL. |
Re your first 2 sentances - you don't really know that though do you?!
Unless if course you have some inside info. If not its pure speculation - or worse, made up guff. | |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:53 - Jun 22 with 3305 views | jontysnut |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:50 - Jun 22 by SheffordBlue |
I'd be amazed if he hasn't had to justify to the owership in quite a bit of detail both the process of how he was going to select the new manager and how he got to the decision at the end of that process.
He seems to have a lot of autonomy but I'm not buying the idea he's been allowed to have his own pick without any reference back to the owners. |
Perhaps he can circulate his slides from the meeting |  | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:56 - Jun 22 with 3242 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:39 - Jun 22 by bsw72 |
If anyone should know about hiring the wrong manager it's Simon Jordan - and let's not forget what an upstanding club chairman he was - so honest and transparent . . .
Steve Coppell (August 2000)
Alan Smith (April 2001)
Steve Bruce (November 2001)
Trevor Francis (April 2003)
Steve Kember (November 2003).
Iain Dowie, (December 2003)
Peter Taylor (June 2006)
Neil Warnock (October 2007) |
He called out Marcus Evan's sh1t long before others had the guts to do so, so for me he has my respect. |  |
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| I don’t think anyone could state that O’Neil is the perfect choice, or a…. on 17:58 - Jun 22 with 3186 views | portmanking |
| I don’t think anyone could state that O’Neil is the perfect choice, or a…. on 17:46 - Jun 22 by unstableblue |
… strong choice.
But he may be right choice for us to achieve the goal of 17th place.
There’s no way he is a strong choice, with the future growth of the club / footballing side of the club in mind.
Jordan is making a career out of being controversial and outspoken but his view on O’Neil will be widely shared in footballing circles - and was certainly the view of Bournemouth and Wolves hierarchy.
But who else was really available? And he’s our manager now - I listen to the Semenyo interview and a few other voices, and it’s clear he does have some attributes. Plus he will have learnt from his previous roles. And our dressing room is far more cohesive than Wolves.
I hope he can galvanise the dressing room, and one way that is achieved is with strong backing from the fans in that first match.
The Liverpool atmosphere last season was remarkable and drove a strong performance and we need more of the same against Sunderland.
Back the guy and let’s see where we end up. [Post edited 22 Jun 17:53]
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If I hear "but who else was really available" again, I'm going to scream... | | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:58 - Jun 22 with 3179 views | Deano69 |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:39 - Jun 22 by bsw72 |
If anyone should know about hiring the wrong manager it's Simon Jordan - and let's not forget what an upstanding club chairman he was - so honest and transparent . . .
Steve Coppell (August 2000)
Alan Smith (April 2001)
Steve Bruce (November 2001)
Trevor Francis (April 2003)
Steve Kember (November 2003).
Iain Dowie, (December 2003)
Peter Taylor (June 2006)
Neil Warnock (October 2007) |
Jeez, what a depressing list.
I'll bet Warnock still put his name in the hat - lol |  |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:01 - Jun 22 with 3094 views | waveneyblue |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:45 - Jun 22 by tetchris |
Trouble with MA is lack of accountability. Americans have told him to get on with it so he can basically hire who he likes. The GON signing feels like a good one for MA but not for the long term success of the club. Obviously we don’t know who applied for the job, who wasn’t interested or couldn’t start immediately due to being a World Cup year but Jordan could be right. GON lost the plot at Wolves and although he typically has a first good season, the wheels come off during the second season and he gets sacked. I don’t think Jordan mentioned who he thought would be a better fit, but he’s right. There has been noise around KM for some time now so MA should have had a succession plan in place. Should we have taken a risk with Pert? Keith Andrew’s has surprised us all. First job as a PL manager, club sold some of its best players but they still had a good season. MA says it’s a risk to give someone their first job in management in the PL, but I’m not convinced giving it to a man who has failed twice previously in the PL is the right man either. I fear we will end up being a club stuck in the championship for years rather than being a regular one in the PL. |
You lost me on the opening line.
Sorry |  | | |
| I don’t think anyone could state that O’Neil is the perfect choice, or a…. on 18:02 - Jun 22 with 3073 views | unstableblue |
| I don’t think anyone could state that O’Neil is the perfect choice, or a…. on 17:58 - Jun 22 by portmanking |
If I hear "but who else was really available" again, I'm going to scream... |
So PK - who do you think was available and better then?
Glimt guy is post surgery
England assistant is away with World Cup
Frank is on a sabbatical
O’Neil is better than OGS
Dyche et al just not sure
Look forward to your list | |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:02 - Jun 22 with 3073 views | bsw72 |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:42 - Jun 22 by Rozeeboy74 |
In fairness, some rotten apples can't be restrained and I don't think we have anyone like Cunha or would sign anyone with that personality. He was clearly using Wolves as a stepping stone. |
People also forget that a manager can be significantly undermined at a club by the board, and players / agents are more than happy to twist a knife if it is to their advantage . . .
If I am not mistaken, O'Neil was the 3rd longest serving manager at Wolves in the last 14 years, out of 12 in total. | | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:05 - Jun 22 with 2960 views | gainsboroughblue |
Not sure I can be bothered with the views of a man who now plys his trade being reactive, controversial and speaking words without any consequence on one of the most rage baity, provocative outlets ever to exist. |  |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:06 - Jun 22 with 2921 views | FrimleyBlue |
Hes not. But he kept a newly promoted side up once so hes the only choice. |  |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:09 - Jun 22 with 2860 views | topguy |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:50 - Jun 22 by SheffordBlue |
I'd be amazed if he hasn't had to justify to the owership in quite a bit of detail both the process of how he was going to select the new manager and how he got to the decision at the end of that process.
He seems to have a lot of autonomy but I'm not buying the idea he's been allowed to have his own pick without any reference back to the owners. |
he does doesnt he if i recall he brought a list of managers to the owners and they asked him who he liked he said nobody went away and got KM, yes could be a lie but easy for the owners to debunk that so it suggests there is involvement | | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:14 - Jun 22 with 2767 views | SheffordBlue |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:09 - Jun 22 by topguy |
he does doesnt he if i recall he brought a list of managers to the owners and they asked him who he liked he said nobody went away and got KM, yes could be a lie but easy for the owners to debunk that so it suggests there is involvement |
Yes - he's talked about it before. I think it's also worth considering that this is probably one of the most important decisions relating to what happens to their investment - if the new manager keeps us up and we stabilise in the Prem the value of their investment goes up significantly. I just can't see anyway they wouldn't want a detailed briefing on that. | |
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| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:21 - Jun 22 with 2616 views | jas0999 |
Time will tell … | | | |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 18:32 - Jun 22 with 2430 views | Churchman |
| Simon Jordan has told Mark Ashton that O’Neil isn’t the right choice… on 17:45 - Jun 22 by tetchris |
Trouble with MA is lack of accountability. Americans have told him to get on with it so he can basically hire who he likes. The GON signing feels like a good one for MA but not for the long term success of the club. Obviously we don’t know who applied for the job, who wasn’t interested or couldn’t start immediately due to being a World Cup year but Jordan could be right. GON lost the plot at Wolves and although he typically has a first good season, the wheels come off during the second season and he gets sacked. I don’t think Jordan mentioned who he thought would be a better fit, but he’s right. There has been noise around KM for some time now so MA should have had a succession plan in place. Should we have taken a risk with Pert? Keith Andrew’s has surprised us all. First job as a PL manager, club sold some of its best players but they still had a good season. MA says it’s a risk to give someone their first job in management in the PL, but I’m not convinced giving it to a man who has failed twice previously in the PL is the right man either. I fear we will end up being a club stuck in the championship for years rather than being a regular one in the PL. |
So the Americans have left it all to the CEO. No accountability to the Board. That makes them just a bunch of hopeless mugs spewing their £millions up the wall while they tuck into their steaks and watch endless basketball.
Can’t see it.
Regardless, he and the owners will be appointing who they think is the best fit for the club. If he proves poor, he’ll be gone by the end of November just as Cook was. With him will probably go MA. Since when were Americans ever forgiving, lazy at that level or tolerant?
The club is growing. This isn’t the days of quick flip Evans appointing the boilerman or Mick circling the wagons while the owner sweat’s the assets. Just look at the last five years if you think it is.
I don’t know O’Neil. No idea. For me, no preconceptions, he gets a chance. Those who’ve decided otherwise, that’s your choice. Do I find him particularly interesting or inspiring? Not particularly but it is what it is and sometimes in life people are not what they seem.
Jordan? If he said it was raining I’d check before taking a brolly. He’s full of sht and always has been. Perfect for Talksport with that walking waste of DNA Jim White.
Whoever it is, give the bloke a chance. |  | | |
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