| Szmodics back to Derby… 07:15 - Jul 23 with 4769 views | Gary_Knows |
… both loan and permanent deal being spoken about.
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:23 - Jul 23 with 3629 views | tetchris |
Hopefully it’s permanent! |  | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:32 - Jul 23 with 3493 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Loan seems an odd way round this, clearly his time here is finished so a fresh start is the only option surely. |  | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:42 - Jul 23 with 3349 views | tonybied |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:32 - Jul 23 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Loan seems an odd way round this, clearly his time here is finished so a fresh start is the only option surely. |
I suspect no one is willing to match his Premier League wages. We might not have any choice in the matter, if it's the only offer on the table. It's more palatable than ripping up his contract. |  | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:48 - Jul 23 with 3274 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:42 - Jul 23 by tonybied |
I suspect no one is willing to match his Premier League wages. We might not have any choice in the matter, if it's the only offer on the table. It's more palatable than ripping up his contract. |
Should have taken the £3M that was on offer in January.
Think we demanded £6M from Derby at the time.
Be interesting to see what he goes for this summer if it's permanent. | | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:03 - Jul 23 with 3056 views | jas0999 |
You would have thought we would want to ship him out permanently…. Very little point of a loan. | | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 with 3002 views | ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:14 - Jul 23 with 2880 views | BlueBlood90 |
Has it ever been revealed what he actually did to get shipped out? Or was it just a case of him being disruptive and a bit of a bad egg around the place in general? |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:26 - Jul 23 with 2696 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 by ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |
We were always likely to take a loss on this one tbh given the age we signed him at. No different say a Diop signing this year. The difference this time.. we are buying proven PL higher calibre. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:28 - Jul 23 with 2674 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 07:48 - Jul 23 by LA_Tractor_Boy |
Should have taken the £3M that was on offer in January.
Think we demanded £6M from Derby at the time.
Be interesting to see what he goes for this summer if it's permanent. |
Especially if what McAteer's family were spouting on socials was true, we would be lucky to get that for him. Not surprised he's been nowhere near anything since then. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:35 - Jul 23 with 2587 views | Vic |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 by ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |
I'd be interested in where we stand on profit/loss on player trading at the moment.
Isuspect we're down, but that wouldnt be surprising as the players we're moving on were pretty much all signed in Lg 1, when we went up to the championship or in '24 when we went up to the Prem. We're upgrading again now, so not surprising if we make a loss.
On the other side of the coin we made a decent whack on Delap and Hutch. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:41 - Jul 23 with 2533 views | nrb1985 |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 by ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |
Quite obviously he wasn't bought with player trading in mind given he was 29 when we signed him and we paid £10m. [Post edited 23 Jul 10:35]
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:54 - Jul 23 with 2369 views | commuterblue |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:35 - Jul 23 by Vic |
I'd be interested in where we stand on profit/loss on player trading at the moment.
Isuspect we're down, but that wouldnt be surprising as the players we're moving on were pretty much all signed in Lg 1, when we went up to the championship or in '24 when we went up to the Prem. We're upgrading again now, so not surprising if we make a loss.
On the other side of the coin we made a decent whack on Delap and Hutch. |
And Woolfie, Broadhead and Baggott. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:58 - Jul 23 with 2301 views | Wakh |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 by ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |
How are you viewing player trading though?
If it’s to make a profit on every player that comes through the door that is never gonna happen.
If it’s to generate decent figures after amortisation, figures that positively support future investment in signings then I imagine we are doing okay. | | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 09:06 - Jul 23 with 2148 views | PioneerBlue |
The Szmodics deal will likely always look like a fail and this is only basic estimated maths but what has he really cost a then PL and now PL club? c€3-4m on an amortised basis for 1 season of a few goals and a necessary squad place. That is small scale if we recover some fee for him and or mitigate final seasons of his contracted wages | |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 09:23 - Jul 23 with 1975 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 by ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |
He was never ever signed to make a profit. Not every deal has to be. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 09:25 - Jul 23 with 1952 views | hype313 |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:41 - Jul 23 by nrb1985 |
Quite obviously he wasn't bought with player trading in mind given he was 29 when we signed him and we paid £10m. [Post edited 23 Jul 10:35]
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Indeed, we can't buy a whole team of 21yr olds, there are times where spending on experience is needed (obviously didn't work out with SS) but plenty of others have been a success. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 09:28 - Jul 23 with 1897 views | PMac13 |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:28 - Jul 23 by ITFC_Essex |
Especially if what McAteer's family were spouting on socials was true, we would be lucky to get that for him. Not surprised he's been nowhere near anything since then. |
Did I miss something here? I didn't realise they had said anything |  | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 09:56 - Jul 23 with 1672 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:06 - Jul 23 by ringwoodblue |
Another player we’re going to make a loss on. It’s going to take a few years to get our player trading model working properly and realising actual benefits. |
Not sure anyone expected to make anything other than a loss on a player who was already 28, nearly 29 when we signed him.
Our player trading model is around buying young promising players, (Emersonn for example), not 27/28 year olds. |  |
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| Szmodics back to Derby… on 10:01 - Jul 23 with 1629 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I didn't like the signing at the time, seemed an awful lot of money for someone in their late 20's who had 1 good season in the 2nd tier on their CV. Couldn't see where he was meant to fit in our system either.
Best off getting what we can for him from Derby and draw a line under it. |  | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 10:09 - Jul 23 with 1576 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:35 - Jul 23 by Vic |
I'd be interested in where we stand on profit/loss on player trading at the moment.
Isuspect we're down, but that wouldnt be surprising as the players we're moving on were pretty much all signed in Lg 1, when we went up to the championship or in '24 when we went up to the Prem. We're upgrading again now, so not surprising if we make a loss.
On the other side of the coin we made a decent whack on Delap and Hutch. |
Up I'd imagine, although most of the spend is still in the squad, so the book value of that is debatable and unrealised until such a time as they move on. | | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 10:15 - Jul 23 with 1542 views | Canuck_Blue |
#BCFC also in the hunt. | | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 10:15 - Jul 23 with 1537 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 08:35 - Jul 23 by Vic |
I'd be interested in where we stand on profit/loss on player trading at the moment.
Isuspect we're down, but that wouldnt be surprising as the players we're moving on were pretty much all signed in Lg 1, when we went up to the championship or in '24 when we went up to the Prem. We're upgrading again now, so not surprising if we make a loss.
On the other side of the coin we made a decent whack on Delap and Hutch. |
Who have we made much of a loss on under Gamechanger? Even Szmodics won't be too big of a loss on his amortised cost when push comes to shove. Ogbene will be one we take a decent hit on for sure.
We've made good profits on Delap, Omari and Broadhead. Woolfy/Baggott too who were pure profit as academy graduates. | | | |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 10:29 - Jul 23 with 1453 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Szmodics back to Derby… on 10:15 - Jul 23 by tractorboy1978 |
Who have we made much of a loss on under Gamechanger? Even Szmodics won't be too big of a loss on his amortised cost when push comes to shove. Ogbene will be one we take a decent hit on for sure.
We've made good profits on Delap, Omari and Broadhead. Woolfy/Baggott too who were pure profit as academy graduates. |
I don't think you can use amortised cost in that calculation really, its just an accounting treatment and had the cost not been amortised you would've been more profitable through those periods.
In the purest sense the best measure is probably the change in squad value less the net transfer spend. If that's a positive its a net gain. | | | |
| Did Szmodics travel to La Manga?? on 10:32 - Jul 23 with 1433 views | unstableblue |
Apologies if already covered. |  |
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| Did Szmodics travel to La Manga?? on 10:37 - Jul 23 with 1377 views | Canuck_Blue |
| Did Szmodics travel to La Manga?? on 10:32 - Jul 23 by unstableblue |
Apologies if already covered. |
No sign of him. | | | |
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