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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover 10:37 - Sep 5 with 28344 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Will be interesting to see how they're compared to environmental groups who did the same and who mainly showed their faces. Were anti terror laws used against them in the end? Weren't there calls by certain sections on the right to run them over?

Let's wait and see.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:03 - Sep 10 with 1375 viewsMullet

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:45 - Sep 10 by TownieRob

Here we go again with the R word. You don't have to be racist, (or thick)..that's a nice double whammy today, to have concerns about:

a) RNLI acting as a taxi service for continuous, planned arrivals. This isn't a medical or sea emergency under SOLAS, it's foreseeable, not a mayday.

b) Unvetted people arriving continuously, that's a fair thing to want answers on.

The Pakistan cricket team thing is a terrible look, can't defend it. Do consider though that many people really have had enough of a) & b) and a coach load of people turning up together is going to raise questions. That's human nature, not automatically hate or stupidity.


You can say racism with your chest. Thats what’s you’re supporting.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:11 - Sep 10 with 1352 viewsStokieBlue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 17:57 - Sep 10 by Dubtractor

Look, I disagree with benters plenty on here, and think his position is a bit incoherent at times (I'm being generous), but i don't think attack and challenge on almost every post is that helpful.


Why not?

He's offering up an position, usually without any evidence or even in direct contradiction to the evidence. Why can't that be challenged?

If he doesn't want to be challenged then he should support his positions rather than constantly refusing to do that when asked. Offering up a nice story doesn't take away the truth of the point being made to him.

He's more than happy to put the boot in, join in a pile-on or wind people up so I doubt many have much sympathy.

SB
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:17 - Sep 10 with 1309 viewsMullet

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 17:57 - Sep 10 by Dubtractor

Look, I disagree with benters plenty on here, and think his position is a bit incoherent at times (I'm being generous), but i don't think attack and challenge on almost every post is that helpful.


Fight! Fight! Fight!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:19 - Sep 10 with 1319 viewsDubtractor

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:11 - Sep 10 by StokieBlue

Why not?

He's offering up an position, usually without any evidence or even in direct contradiction to the evidence. Why can't that be challenged?

If he doesn't want to be challenged then he should support his positions rather than constantly refusing to do that when asked. Offering up a nice story doesn't take away the truth of the point being made to him.

He's more than happy to put the boot in, join in a pile-on or wind people up so I doubt many have much sympathy.

SB
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Challenge the stuff that warrants challenging, sure, but that was just a completely harmless post about buying an old boy a beer.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:23 - Sep 10 with 1282 viewsMullet

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:19 - Sep 10 by Dubtractor

Challenge the stuff that warrants challenging, sure, but that was just a completely harmless post about buying an old boy a beer.


But was it?

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:35 - Sep 10 with 1263 viewsredrickstuhaart

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 17:57 - Sep 10 by Dubtractor

Look, I disagree with benters plenty on here, and think his position is a bit incoherent at times (I'm being generous), but i don't think attack and challenge on almost every post is that helpful.


I hear you. But I am absolutely livid about the way people are behaving towards the RNLI and its supporters / volunteers / staff. It is disgusting. And unfortunately, it is folk like Benters who are providing the cover and comfort for people to start thinking and behaving that way.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:39 - Sep 10 with 1247 viewsLeoMuff

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 09:20 - Sep 10 by TownieRob

The abuse is awful. The RNLI personnel should not receive any abuse.

The RNLI needs to have a think about their policies. Make them clear and broadcast those, whatever they are. If they are going to continue to pick up planned trips then so be it, people then have a choice if they choose to support/ donate.


Honestly, the policy is to save lives of those in danger at sea. 150 people in a dinghy in the middle of the sea and major shipping in autumn, will fall under that category.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 01:53 - Sep 11 with 1034 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:35 - Sep 10 by redrickstuhaart

I hear you. But I am absolutely livid about the way people are behaving towards the RNLI and its supporters / volunteers / staff. It is disgusting. And unfortunately, it is folk like Benters who are providing the cover and comfort for people to start thinking and behaving that way.


Is it ?

I didn’t realise I had so much clout tbh.

Yesterday I made love for the first time in 6 weeks,went for a walk to a farm I hadn’t been to again for 6 weeks.

Sat in the church yard for a bit on the way home,had a bottle of Ghostship and Cottage pie for lunch.

Then have a lovely Kip on my bed in the sun,the cat was by my feet.

I haven’t even mentioned the RNLI and apart from The Lizard Lifeboat which I always donate to,I won’t.

If you and your like want to down arrow,steam into me on this post if it makes you feel better then go for it.

Just remember as soon as I fart I get a red letter from Admin.

Enjoy your day.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 06:38 - Sep 11 with 954 viewstcblue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 01:53 - Sep 11 by Benters

Is it ?

I didn’t realise I had so much clout tbh.

Yesterday I made love for the first time in 6 weeks,went for a walk to a farm I hadn’t been to again for 6 weeks.

Sat in the church yard for a bit on the way home,had a bottle of Ghostship and Cottage pie for lunch.

Then have a lovely Kip on my bed in the sun,the cat was by my feet.

I haven’t even mentioned the RNLI and apart from The Lizard Lifeboat which I always donate to,I won’t.

If you and your like want to down arrow,steam into me on this post if it makes you feel better then go for it.

Just remember as soon as I fart I get a red letter from Admin.

Enjoy your day.


I down voted because of the thought of you on the job
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:13 - Sep 11 with 918 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 06:38 - Sep 11 by tcblue

I down voted because of the thought of you on the job


Yeah way too much information!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:14 - Sep 11 with 903 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 06:38 - Sep 11 by tcblue

I down voted because of the thought of you on the job


We all do it comrade.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:34 - Sep 11 with 866 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 06:38 - Sep 11 by tcblue

I down voted because of the thought of you on the job


Benters loves his hand!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:51 - Sep 11 with 837 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:34 - Sep 11 by BanksterDebtSlave

Benters loves his hand!


Both of em if you don’t mind.

Thank you.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:53 - Sep 11 with 839 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:51 - Sep 11 by Benters

Both of em if you don’t mind.

Thank you.


I'm not even going to think about what you do with the spare one thanks!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:59 - Sep 11 with 832 viewsredrickstuhaart

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 01:53 - Sep 11 by Benters

Is it ?

I didn’t realise I had so much clout tbh.

Yesterday I made love for the first time in 6 weeks,went for a walk to a farm I hadn’t been to again for 6 weeks.

Sat in the church yard for a bit on the way home,had a bottle of Ghostship and Cottage pie for lunch.

Then have a lovely Kip on my bed in the sun,the cat was by my feet.

I haven’t even mentioned the RNLI and apart from The Lizard Lifeboat which I always donate to,I won’t.

If you and your like want to down arrow,steam into me on this post if it makes you feel better then go for it.

Just remember as soon as I fart I get a red letter from Admin.

Enjoy your day.


This is happening because the reform mindset has been normalized.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:03 - Sep 11 with 818 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:59 - Sep 11 by redrickstuhaart

This is happening because the reform mindset has been normalized.


Right bunch of w@nkers aren't they!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 09:56 - Sep 11 with 729 viewsN2_Blue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 13:50 - Sep 9 by noggin

No he didn't. A quick search is all it took.

No, Jeremy Kyle did not report that the United Nations (UN) stated 1 in 100 asylum cases are genuine.The segment broadcast on Talk (formerly TalkTV) in September 2026 involved Jeremy Kyle discussing a widely reported investigation from The Times.

FFS, I wish I hadn't looked at this rubbish. No surprise that you watch TalkTV benters. I'm guessing you'll say you were genuinely mistaken now?

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All this proves is how dangerous to Society people like Benters are. They aren't intelligent enough to understand things so mis quote, misunderstand and peddle their mistruth as fact and its just snowballs, especially with the advent of scoial media that effectively makes it a 'truth' even though there is no evidence for it whatsover.

The danger with these people is their opinion never changes, even when it clearly shown to them that they are mistaken. I don't think i've ever seen him backtrack on any of his mistruths in all his time posting despite being clearly shown what they are syaing in incorrect.

Yet as many say, so may people like to cosy up to them and say they're a good egg and he's harmless really. They are anything but.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:28 - Sep 11 with 681 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:59 - Sep 11 by redrickstuhaart

This is happening because the reform mindset has been normalized.


Benters getting his end away is happening because of Reform? No wonder he supports them.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:06 - Sep 11 with 638 viewsWhos_blue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:28 - Sep 11 by The_Flashing_Smile

Benters getting his end away is happening because of Reform? No wonder he supports them.


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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:37 - Sep 11 with 596 viewsRyorry

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 09:56 - Sep 11 by N2_Blue

All this proves is how dangerous to Society people like Benters are. They aren't intelligent enough to understand things so mis quote, misunderstand and peddle their mistruth as fact and its just snowballs, especially with the advent of scoial media that effectively makes it a 'truth' even though there is no evidence for it whatsover.

The danger with these people is their opinion never changes, even when it clearly shown to them that they are mistaken. I don't think i've ever seen him backtrack on any of his mistruths in all his time posting despite being clearly shown what they are syaing in incorrect.

Yet as many say, so may people like to cosy up to them and say they're a good egg and he's harmless really. They are anything but.


One of the few advantages of being elderly is that it gives you long decades of experience.

There are different kinds of intelligence; I've found that many good people who have emotional intelligence but whose strength isn't the academic kind, are those whose reactions are more likely to be ones of fear and emotion rather than using logic.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 13:50 - Sep 11 with 477 viewsbalcombeblue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:37 - Sep 11 by Ryorry

One of the few advantages of being elderly is that it gives you long decades of experience.

There are different kinds of intelligence; I've found that many good people who have emotional intelligence but whose strength isn't the academic kind, are those whose reactions are more likely to be ones of fear and emotion rather than using logic.


Calling someone unintelligent based on forum posts is in itself pretty dim really.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:08 - Sep 11 with 448 viewsgiant_stow

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:37 - Sep 11 by Ryorry

One of the few advantages of being elderly is that it gives you long decades of experience.

There are different kinds of intelligence; I've found that many good people who have emotional intelligence but whose strength isn't the academic kind, are those whose reactions are more likely to be ones of fear and emotion rather than using logic.


Me and my 87 year old mum were chatting about this sort of issue the other day. She blamed the decline in teaching / popularity of sociological / arts subjects, which always emphasise the importance of evaluating source material and generally allowing for bias in what people say or publish.

I think she might have a point.
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Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:33 - Sep 11 with 406 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:08 - Sep 11 by giant_stow

Me and my 87 year old mum were chatting about this sort of issue the other day. She blamed the decline in teaching / popularity of sociological / arts subjects, which always emphasise the importance of evaluating source material and generally allowing for bias in what people say or publish.

I think she might have a point.
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Coupled/exacerbated/caused by a continuing obsession by governments with measurement of school performace which itself is partly measured by chidrens' performances in exams/tests/etc.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:46 - Sep 11 with 376 viewsDJR

A couple of interesting passages in this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk


"The Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) has had a “significant” boost in donations since becoming a target of far-right agitators protesting over small boat crossings."


"Knox-Johnston [vice-presidentt of the RNLI] said of the charity being targeted: “Like many supporters of the RNLI, I am very angry about it because they are picking on the wrong people.
“These are volunteers who risk their lives to go out and save anyone at sea” Knox-Johnson, the first solo sailor to circumnavigate the world non-stop, told BBC Radio Solent.
“What people don’t seem to understand is the RNLI don’t go out looking for people – they only go out when specifically asked by the coastguard, whose job is safety of life at sea – regardless of nationality.
“They are doing their job, they are saying there are people whose lives are in danger – RNLI please can you send a boat and remove the risk."


The latter knocks on the head the claim that the RNLI is a taxi service, but sadly the simplistic slogan, which is designed to cause an emotional response as with many slogans from the right, achieves its aim amongst those taken in by it.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 15:04 - Sep 11 with 341 viewsBlueBoots

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:08 - Sep 11 by giant_stow

Me and my 87 year old mum were chatting about this sort of issue the other day. She blamed the decline in teaching / popularity of sociological / arts subjects, which always emphasise the importance of evaluating source material and generally allowing for bias in what people say or publish.

I think she might have a point.
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I feel very sorry for the current generation of students, as being able to evaluate source material was a lot simpler in my time prior to the web (particularly social media) which has made it a minefield; you can add AI generated information into the mix now too.

We're now approaching the 10th anniversary of this term entering the dictionary too...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-

...so I fear it's too late to row back against the spread of disinformation / misinformation, but I always make a point of calling it out when I see it. I've done so earlier on this thread, but that poster has turned it into a trolling exercise, so not going to get sucked into that.

I recently had to call out a poster on another thread who when asked to provide evidence of an event taking place, posted a video published by a dubious X account of a similar event taking place in another location; said poster never acknowledged they had done anything wrong.

I'm not on X or similar because of the harmful number of mistruths that end up being peddled; always found this site to be better than that, so sad to find some of that creeping in

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