| Definate Pen on Maeda 22:58 - Oct 10 with 1656 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
He gets fouled outside the box, but doesn't go down and is then tripped inside the box separately.
VAR have refused to look at it because they say the incident was outside the box, but for me, its two separate fouls, the 2nd is a clear Pen. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 22:59 - Oct 10 with 1614 views | SitfcB |
VAR did look at it according to the screen and the referee signaling? Truth is ref bottled it. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:01 - Oct 10 with 1594 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 22:59 - Oct 10 by SitfcB |
VAR did look at it according to the screen and the referee signaling? Truth is ref bottled it. |
Did he signal? Didn't see him.
But to be fair I was busy shouting at him. | |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:03 - Oct 10 with 1562 views | armchaircritic59 |
Absolutely spot on, seen the close ups. A bottle job, which fortunately for us, didn't matter in the end. |  | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:14 - Oct 10 with 1488 views | Garv |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 22:59 - Oct 10 by SitfcB |
VAR did look at it according to the screen and the referee signaling? Truth is ref bottled it. |
Pretty sure it was on the screen and he made a signal tool.
They check everything anyway. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:16 - Oct 10 with 1463 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
50/50 for me, the kind of ones you’re annoyed at if it’s giving against you, was already stumbling so didn’t surprise me it wasn’t overturned. Hard to see to if there true contact in the box unless it’s slowed down. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:17 - Oct 10 with 1457 views | SitfcB |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:01 - Oct 10 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Did he signal? Didn't see him.
But to be fair I was busy shouting at him. |
Yeah he held his ear as soon as it happened and waited a while to listen and then waved for a goal kick once he had been told.
By the time it was put on the screen it had already been decided really.
One of them I think if the ref gives it then it would stand, VAR afraid to overturn it. Which is wrong. | |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:19 - Oct 10 with 1445 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:16 - Oct 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
50/50 for me, the kind of ones you’re annoyed at if it’s giving against you, was already stumbling so didn’t surprise me it wasn’t overturned. Hard to see to if there true contact in the box unless it’s slowed down. |
Certainly wasn't stumbling in the box, he'd taken a number of strides after the initial contact caused a slight stumble. | |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:34 - Oct 10 with 1393 views | RetroBlue |
I had a very clear view if this incident and you wont see a clearer, not given, all season.. The officials make me sick they are so consistently, biased towards the perceived "underdog" in this crappy division. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 06:19 - Oct 11 with 1064 views | BlueDouglas |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:34 - Oct 10 by RetroBlue |
I had a very clear view if this incident and you wont see a clearer, not given, all season.. The officials make me sick they are so consistently, biased towards the perceived "underdog" in this crappy division. |
Watching it from the cobbold upper tier it did look like maeda was looking for contact to go down, not a pen for me at the time |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 07:53 - Oct 11 with 860 views | bsw72 |
I thought the analysis of the not given pen and our play in general was thoughtful and insightful on MotD last night.
Oh.
Wait. |  | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:03 - Oct 11 with 814 views | Blue_Uprising |
My view of the replay was the contact outside the box was probably not enough to give a foul
However standing on his foot in the box (albeit not necessarily intentional and pretty soft) was enough to stop Maeda being able to play the ball across (even if he was already stumbling).
Feel for the home team at another ground ie old Trafford, emirates, anfield, at the very least, it gets referred for the ref to take a closer look at the replay.
Thankfully it didn’t matter. |  | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:05 - Oct 11 with 800 views | Blue_Heath |
Even MOTD said there was contact. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:14 - Oct 11 with 751 views | EdwardStone |
Exactly what I saw.... 2 seperate fouls
He looked like he was going over from contact No 1 outside the box when contact No 2 happened inside the box
So I guess it looked like a dive
But it wasn't [Post edited 11 Oct 8:15]
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:30 - Oct 11 with 658 views | BseaBlue |
I make you right. Advantage was played and Maeda gets himself into a good position. He is off balance but clear contact which disrupts him further.
I do get that not all 'contact' is a foul but in this situation, it interupted a potential goal scoring opportunity so pen all day to me.
I'd wager that if that happened at Old Trafford, Anfield or the Emirates, it gets given and VAR wouldn't over turn it. |  | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:46 - Oct 11 with 582 views | RetroBlue |
If there was no contact, why wadnt our player booked then?
As for MOTD snd their habitual disrespect towards us as PL club , they can shove their poxy programme where the sun doesn't shine. | |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:52 - Oct 11 with 541 views | Wickets |
Think we might have created a problem where by the Ref decides to leave it to VAR and VAR doesn't want to overrule the Ref ? |  | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:03 - Oct 11 with 479 views | Blue_Uprising |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:52 - Oct 11 by Wickets |
Think we might have created a problem where by the Ref decides to leave it to VAR and VAR doesn't want to overrule the Ref ? |
I think the only way var works is for teams to be given a set number of reviews and they judge when to use it. The judgement of refs and the var teams is too open to bias.
Might result in the same outcome.
People will say because the ref/var didn’t give it the decision would be the same under this model.
But I’m not so sure that holds true.
I think this model would at least get the ref to have to look again on monitor - and who knows maybe he would not agree with the person in the var office on some far flung trading estate.
In fact the var person does not need to be involved in the decision making or give any judgement at all under a review system. They are just there to move the video forward and back. | | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:10 - Oct 11 with 437 views | football |
Looked a pen to me in the replay - maybe soft, but a pen. I guess the ref bottled it as its against the narrative for little old Ipswich to win games | | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:15 - Oct 11 with 419 views | Dubtractor |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:52 - Oct 11 by Wickets |
Think we might have created a problem where by the Ref decides to leave it to VAR and VAR doesn't want to overrule the Ref ? |
It's exactly what happened there. He didn't give it, then immediately was listening to the VAR ref for validation, was really clear to see. |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:16 - Oct 11 with 412 views | Dubtractor |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 08:46 - Oct 11 by RetroBlue |
If there was no contact, why wadnt our player booked then?
As for MOTD snd their habitual disrespect towards us as PL club , they can shove their poxy programme where the sun doesn't shine. |
Their lack of comment on anything about us yesterday was remarkable to be honest. | |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:16 - Oct 11 with 412 views | Metal_Hacker |
For the record I thought it was a pen
I did worry if it was outside but watching the replays most definitely a pen
Thankfully we didn’t need it but same old inconsistency |  |
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| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:19 - Oct 11 with 395 views | farkenhell |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 09:03 - Oct 11 by Blue_Uprising |
I think the only way var works is for teams to be given a set number of reviews and they judge when to use it. The judgement of refs and the var teams is too open to bias.
Might result in the same outcome.
People will say because the ref/var didn’t give it the decision would be the same under this model.
But I’m not so sure that holds true.
I think this model would at least get the ref to have to look again on monitor - and who knows maybe he would not agree with the person in the var office on some far flung trading estate.
In fact the var person does not need to be involved in the decision making or give any judgement at all under a review system. They are just there to move the video forward and back. |
That's a very good idea. I think they have introduced this in rugby league? | | | |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 10:39 - Oct 11 with 222 views | bsw72 |
| Definate Pen on Maeda on 23:16 - Oct 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
50/50 for me, the kind of ones you’re annoyed at if it’s giving against you, was already stumbling so didn’t surprise me it wasn’t overturned. Hard to see to if there true contact in the box unless it’s slowed down. |
Two separate fouls, first of which he stayed upright and maintained control of the ball into the box while the second caused his moving leg to clip onto his standing leg and lose balance.
Would only be the same foul if he had stumbled without having the ball under control after the first touch so taking that foul from outside the box into it.
Was poor refereeing and showed what VAR is ineffective in its current guise. | | | |
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