| Sean Dyche interview. 18:48 - Sep 23 with 2487 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
Common sense at last. [Post edited 26 Sep 2020 18:28]
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 18:54 - Sep 23 with 2176 views | Bluefish |
He is saying that PL clubs shouldn't filter money down unless other industries do? That is terrible |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 18:57 - Sep 23 with 2168 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 18:54 - Sep 23 by Bluefish |
He is saying that PL clubs shouldn't filter money down unless other industries do? That is terrible |
Why is it? | | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:03 - Sep 23 with 2144 views | Sm00411 |
I disagree. The Football League is a feeder to the Premier League. It's essentially a subsidiary. If the Football League is thriving the Premier League will thrive also.
Dyche comparing the Football League's relationship with the Premier League to rival restaurants and bars is bizarre to be honest. |  | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:05 - Sep 23 with 2133 views | Bobbychase |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 18:54 - Sep 23 by Bluefish |
He is saying that PL clubs shouldn't filter money down unless other industries do? That is terrible |
I followed his logic to a point, but the comparison to things like the hospitality industry don't work for me.
The lower league clubs often scout, discover then nurture players who are then sold to the bigger teams. Burnley is a middling Premier League side which often replaces players it sells with signings from the Championship and sometimes below.
Taking care of the football pyramid below the premier league is in their own long-term interest. |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:06 - Sep 23 with 2119 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:03 - Sep 23 by Sm00411 |
I disagree. The Football League is a feeder to the Premier League. It's essentially a subsidiary. If the Football League is thriving the Premier League will thrive also.
Dyche comparing the Football League's relationship with the Premier League to rival restaurants and bars is bizarre to be honest. |
It is for the FA to sort out, not the clubs themselves. I think he is talking sense. | | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:29 - Sep 23 with 2044 views | BlueBadger |
Because, if you're not looking after the foundations of your house, having a good roof if ultimately pointless. |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:39 - Sep 23 with 1993 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:29 - Sep 23 by BlueBadger |
Because, if you're not looking after the foundations of your house, having a good roof if ultimately pointless. |
Is it not down to the FA or the PL to sort? Think it is to easy for people to say Liverpool, Man Utd etc. should help. It is down to those who run the game. | | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:39 - Sep 23 with 1988 views | BlueBadger |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:39 - Sep 23 by IpswichBoyBlue |
Is it not down to the FA or the PL to sort? Think it is to easy for people to say Liverpool, Man Utd etc. should help. It is down to those who run the game. |
The point is, they're not. And it's in their interests to do so. | |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:41 - Sep 23 with 1987 views | BlueBadger |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:06 - Sep 23 by IpswichBoyBlue |
It is for the FA to sort out, not the clubs themselves. I think he is talking sense. |
It would be quite nice if the Premier League would occasionally look up from their troughs though. | |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:43 - Sep 23 with 1981 views | J2BLUE |
A well respected manager making himself look like an idiot.
Sad to see. |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:56 - Sep 23 with 1946 views | Garv |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:43 - Sep 23 by J2BLUE |
A well respected manager making himself look like an idiot.
Sad to see. |
I'd say he's not a stranger to making himself look a bit silly. I think he probably believes a lot of the hype surrounding him to be honest. |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:06 - Sep 23 with 1908 views | Swansea_Blue |
I think he's just reflecting reality. Football has been turned into an industry and you don't expect companies in an industry to prop up failing ones.
It's wrong that we're in this position in football, but it's a position we're in nonetheless. I think we'd all agree that the role football clubs play in a community should be valued above the bottom line of a profit and loss return. But they're not. Ideally we should be nurturing the grass roots and every level of the pyramid to ensure that home grown players get the best shot of making the big time and strengthening the national teams. But we're not close to being there either.
The answer is all a bit too socialist in thinking for the likes of the Premier League and Murdoch. Their empire has been built on the foundations of solid, exclusive capitalism. Borrow to grow at all costs. They don't give a feck if clubs that have been the heart of their communities for 140 years go to the wall. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 20:09]
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:24 - Sep 23 with 1858 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Stick to coaching Sean, you clearly don't understand how the pyramid works.
I think Burnley run a football admin course... maybe he can attend. |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:25 - Sep 23 with 1854 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:06 - Sep 23 by Swansea_Blue |
I think he's just reflecting reality. Football has been turned into an industry and you don't expect companies in an industry to prop up failing ones.
It's wrong that we're in this position in football, but it's a position we're in nonetheless. I think we'd all agree that the role football clubs play in a community should be valued above the bottom line of a profit and loss return. But they're not. Ideally we should be nurturing the grass roots and every level of the pyramid to ensure that home grown players get the best shot of making the big time and strengthening the national teams. But we're not close to being there either.
The answer is all a bit too socialist in thinking for the likes of the Premier League and Murdoch. Their empire has been built on the foundations of solid, exclusive capitalism. Borrow to grow at all costs. They don't give a feck if clubs that have been the heart of their communities for 140 years go to the wall. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 20:09]
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The comparison is not an accurate one. | |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:45 - Sep 23 with 1790 views | marcus1642 |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:06 - Sep 23 by Swansea_Blue |
I think he's just reflecting reality. Football has been turned into an industry and you don't expect companies in an industry to prop up failing ones.
It's wrong that we're in this position in football, but it's a position we're in nonetheless. I think we'd all agree that the role football clubs play in a community should be valued above the bottom line of a profit and loss return. But they're not. Ideally we should be nurturing the grass roots and every level of the pyramid to ensure that home grown players get the best shot of making the big time and strengthening the national teams. But we're not close to being there either.
The answer is all a bit too socialist in thinking for the likes of the Premier League and Murdoch. Their empire has been built on the foundations of solid, exclusive capitalism. Borrow to grow at all costs. They don't give a feck if clubs that have been the heart of their communities for 140 years go to the wall. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 20:09]
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Yep, pretty much sums it up. Even pre-premier league it was always about self interest. Put it this way, if Town were an established premier league team would we really be bothered about teams in the lower leagues? |  | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:17 - Sep 23 with 1723 views | Ely_Blue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:06 - Sep 23 by Swansea_Blue |
I think he's just reflecting reality. Football has been turned into an industry and you don't expect companies in an industry to prop up failing ones.
It's wrong that we're in this position in football, but it's a position we're in nonetheless. I think we'd all agree that the role football clubs play in a community should be valued above the bottom line of a profit and loss return. But they're not. Ideally we should be nurturing the grass roots and every level of the pyramid to ensure that home grown players get the best shot of making the big time and strengthening the national teams. But we're not close to being there either.
The answer is all a bit too socialist in thinking for the likes of the Premier League and Murdoch. Their empire has been built on the foundations of solid, exclusive capitalism. Borrow to grow at all costs. They don't give a feck if clubs that have been the heart of their communities for 140 years go to the wall. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 20:09]
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You know Murdoch has nothing to do with sky these days don’t you? |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:20 - Sep 23 with 1719 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:43 - Sep 23 by J2BLUE |
A well respected manager making himself look like an idiot.
Sad to see. |
But he hasn't. It isn't Burnley's or any other clubs job to think about how smaller clubs are going to survive. It is down to the FA and the PL to sort. | | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:25 - Sep 23 with 1709 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:17 - Sep 23 by Ely_Blue |
You know Murdoch has nothing to do with sky these days don’t you? |
Aye, for the last 2 years. But for he clearly helped shape the PL and was a major player in distorting the finances in the game for 28 years prior to that. | |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:45 - Sep 23 with 1668 views | pelles321 |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:45 - Sep 23 by marcus1642 |
Yep, pretty much sums it up. Even pre-premier league it was always about self interest. Put it this way, if Town were an established premier league team would we really be bothered about teams in the lower leagues? |
So my answer to your question is that I would hope so. I certainly would.
His comments are discussed well on the D3D4 podcast. For it to come from someone like Dyche at a club like Burnley is so disappointing. They are a club primarily made up of players who were developed through the EFL pyramid. Most of Dyche’s football career was spent in the lower leagues. The self interest clubs are showing could end up really destroying lower level football. Football is generally cyclical, and another day down the line a club like Burnley may not be part of the premier league or Dyche may not be managing in the premier league. I’d like to hope if it was us, we wouldn’t forget our roots and try to help football survive not just look at what we can gain. |  | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:49 - Sep 23 with 1658 views | m14_blue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 20:45 - Sep 23 by marcus1642 |
Yep, pretty much sums it up. Even pre-premier league it was always about self interest. Put it this way, if Town were an established premier league team would we really be bothered about teams in the lower leagues? |
Well I certainly would. | | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:55 - Sep 23 with 1631 views | patrickswell |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:39 - Sep 23 by IpswichBoyBlue |
Is it not down to the FA or the PL to sort? Think it is to easy for people to say Liverpool, Man Utd etc. should help. It is down to those who run the game. |
The question is who rules football? The FA have the duty of care towards the sport, the Premier League have the duty of care towards the brand and sadly that brand only encompasses 20 clubs. Anytime the EFL tried to address financial issues and needed a bit of leeway from the Premier League cf Evans proposal on limiting parachute payments in 2013 or even Fulham’s willingness to let their un-used parachute money be redistributed around the EFL clubs and ease the monetary worries during this crisis, all they got was refusals and threats from the Premier League.
Richard Masters isn’t going to come to anyone’s rescue. He has no conception of the sport outside of trying to ensure he can sit with the Glazers or Abramovich or the Quataris and help them protect their investments rather than our sport.
As for Dyche, he’s clearly come a long way away from who he was as a player - a player who made a decent living in the lower tiers of English football. It’s always a shame when people so clearly step away from their roots. |  | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 22:50 - Sep 23 with 1570 views | J2BLUE |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 21:20 - Sep 23 by IpswichBoyBlue |
But he hasn't. It isn't Burnley's or any other clubs job to think about how smaller clubs are going to survive. It is down to the FA and the PL to sort. |
He has. Football is clearly based on the pyramid and is completely different. Also it's quite funny that it's the Burnley manager saying these things. They are a club who could easily find themselves back in the Championship in a few years. Looks unlikely right now but a managerial change and losing 2-3 players makes relegation a real thread to a club like them. They need to remember that. | |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 23:06 - Sep 23 with 1536 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:39 - Sep 23 by IpswichBoyBlue |
Is it not down to the FA or the PL to sort? Think it is to easy for people to say Liverpool, Man Utd etc. should help. It is down to those who run the game. |
Nonsense |  | | |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 09:03 - Sep 24 with 1342 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:03 - Sep 23 by Sm00411 |
I disagree. The Football League is a feeder to the Premier League. It's essentially a subsidiary. If the Football League is thriving the Premier League will thrive also.
Dyche comparing the Football League's relationship with the Premier League to rival restaurants and bars is bizarre to be honest. |
I wonder if Dyche would be saying the same if Burnley were still in the Championship? |  |
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| Sean Dyche interview. on 09:06 - Sep 24 with 1332 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Sean Dyche interview. on 19:39 - Sep 23 by IpswichBoyBlue |
Is it not down to the FA or the PL to sort? Think it is to easy for people to say Liverpool, Man Utd etc. should help. It is down to those who run the game. |
You understand thats exactly what he's saying right? That the Premier League shouldn't help the EFL, because the Premier League are successful and the EFL aren't.
The point he, and apparently you, are missing, is that the Premier League are only successful because they have repeatedly shafted the EFL. | |
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