| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? 16:23 - Feb 13 with 4476 views | snudge27 |
I see that both Hancock and Johnson have today made comments about 'living with Covid as we do the flu', and how humanity will 'adapt to Covid'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56050119
Are these fools really suggesting going down the route of giving up on eradicating the thing, and just trying to do 'business as usual' far too soon (again)? |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:25 - Feb 13 with 4447 views | J2BLUE |
I think you're reading too much into that. We'd love to eradicate it but with vaccines and new treatments etc it could be managed long term if eradication isn't possible. |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:27 - Feb 13 with 4417 views | pointofblue |
It's never going to be eradicated - they're right in that, unfortunately. |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:29 - Feb 13 with 4405 views | Suffolktractor |
Fairly obvious to most sensible people that Covid is unlikely to be totally eradicated.
But if you want to use it as another stick to beat the government with then crack on. | | | |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:31 - Feb 13 with 4391 views | GlasgowBlue |
Vaccines allow us to live with a great many diseases and viruses that used to kill a large percentage of the world's population.
This seems to be another of the unnecessary negative posts that appear on here far too often. |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:32 - Feb 13 with 4377 views | NthQldITFC |
It was always a discussion which was going to be had, just a question of timing. |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:33 - Feb 13 with 4362 views | Harry_Palmer |
To the contrary I think its the most sensible thing they have come out with for a while.
Eradicating the disease completely or pursuing a zero Covid deaths strategy is just not realistic, unless that is you fancy being locked down forever more? |  | | |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:35 - Feb 13 with 4343 views | ronnyd |
Flu is a virus, has that been eradicated yet? | | | |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:36 - Feb 13 with 4328 views | snudge27 |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:31 - Feb 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Vaccines allow us to live with a great many diseases and viruses that used to kill a large percentage of the world's population.
This seems to be another of the unnecessary negative posts that appear on here far too often. |
Yes, because heaven forbid someone has an opinion that's different to yours... | |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:40 - Feb 13 with 4299 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:36 - Feb 13 by snudge27 |
Yes, because heaven forbid someone has an opinion that's different to yours... |
I'm yet to read a single reply to your post that agrees with your opinion. | |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:45 - Feb 13 with 4249 views | MonkeyAlan |
Boris is a good egg really. |  | | |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:48 - Feb 13 with 4237 views | BrianTablet |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:45 - Feb 13 by MonkeyAlan |
Boris is a good egg really. |
You've misspelled rancid |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 17:05 - Feb 13 with 4143 views | snudge27 |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 16:40 - Feb 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm yet to read a single reply to your post that agrees with your opinion. |
Apologies for agreeing with the scientists on this one. You clearly know much better...
Given how abysmally these charlatans have handled the issue so far, and how the deaths of three of my closest relatives could have been avoided if we'd had competent leadership in charge, you'll have to excuse my being deeply cynical of anything that comes out of their mouths. Doubly so when the experts are declaring what a bad idea such a move would be.
But hey, you do you, and carry on with your usual stance of belittling anyone who doesn't share your point of view. | |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 17:49 - Feb 13 with 4025 views | mikeybloo88 |
There'll be an acceptable level of annual deaths directly attributable to covid, just as there has been for flu...as long as this number stays roughly the same every year and is mostly old people, life will roll on |  | | |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 18:19 - Feb 13 with 3985 views | BlueBadger |
Realistically, it's probably here to stay. Doesn't mean we shouldn't seek to reduce harm and incidence and we're not. |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 18:20 - Feb 13 with 3971 views | chrismakin |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 17:49 - Feb 13 by mikeybloo88 |
There'll be an acceptable level of annual deaths directly attributable to covid, just as there has been for flu...as long as this number stays roughly the same every year and is mostly old people, life will roll on |
Isn't flu deaths something like 20000 per year? |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 18:51 - Feb 13 with 3901 views | jaykay |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 17:05 - Feb 13 by snudge27 |
Apologies for agreeing with the scientists on this one. You clearly know much better...
Given how abysmally these charlatans have handled the issue so far, and how the deaths of three of my closest relatives could have been avoided if we'd had competent leadership in charge, you'll have to excuse my being deeply cynical of anything that comes out of their mouths. Doubly so when the experts are declaring what a bad idea such a move would be.
But hey, you do you, and carry on with your usual stance of belittling anyone who doesn't share your point of view. |
don't worry his fan is down voting you and up voting his idol. |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 19:37 - Feb 13 with 3847 views | pointofblue |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 17:05 - Feb 13 by snudge27 |
Apologies for agreeing with the scientists on this one. You clearly know much better...
Given how abysmally these charlatans have handled the issue so far, and how the deaths of three of my closest relatives could have been avoided if we'd had competent leadership in charge, you'll have to excuse my being deeply cynical of anything that comes out of their mouths. Doubly so when the experts are declaring what a bad idea such a move would be.
But hey, you do you, and carry on with your usual stance of belittling anyone who doesn't share your point of view. |
I'm sorry for your losses but, in terms of moving forward, I think you're combining two points which shouldn't be declined.
Covid is around for good and we just have to get into a position where we can handle it circulating. There is a big question on when restrictions should start to be lifted, I agree with that. | |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 19:46 - Feb 13 with 3829 views | StokieBlue |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 18:20 - Feb 13 by chrismakin |
Isn't flu deaths something like 20000 per year? |
No, it's about 8000 a year on average.
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 19:52 - Feb 13 with 3798 views | 26_Paz |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 18:20 - Feb 13 by chrismakin |
Isn't flu deaths something like 20000 per year? |
Varies quite widely I think, some years are worse than others |  |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 20:01 - Feb 13 with 3774 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 17:05 - Feb 13 by snudge27 |
Apologies for agreeing with the scientists on this one. You clearly know much better...
Given how abysmally these charlatans have handled the issue so far, and how the deaths of three of my closest relatives could have been avoided if we'd had competent leadership in charge, you'll have to excuse my being deeply cynical of anything that comes out of their mouths. Doubly so when the experts are declaring what a bad idea such a move would be.
But hey, you do you, and carry on with your usual stance of belittling anyone who doesn't share your point of view. |
Sorry for your losses but you're not alone in losing family and friends to this virus. We have all lost love ones over the past year.
Who are these scientists that you are agreeing with? Patrick Vallance, the UK's Chief Scientific Adviser, has been saying for some time that we will never fully ericaite the virus and instead will have to live with Covid as we do the flu, and that we will have to adapt.
"Giving evidence to the joint Commons and Lords National Security Strategy Committee on Monday, Sir Patrick said that only one disease - smallpox - had ever been completely eradicated.
He said that in future, treating Covid-19 may become more like seasonal flu.
"I think it is unlikely that we will end up with a truly sterilising vaccine that completely stops infection," he said".
and Deputy Chief Medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam:
Asked whether, in time, an annual jab will be required against a different strain, as happens with flu, Prof Van-Tam said: "I can't say it will be every year yet, but I can say that I don't think we will ever eradicate coronavirus."
So far from knowing much better tan the scientists, I'm very much on board with their thinking on this. | |
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| Government trailing a new tack on Covid? on 20:48 - Feb 13 with 3715 views | Guthrum |
It took decades to eradicate smallpox, even regionally in Europe, never mind globally. That and rinderpest in cattle are the only two viruses we have managed to get rid of in the wild.
Of necessity, we're going to have to live with Covid-19 to a greater or lesser extent (hopefully largely suppressed and, eventually, treatable) for some time. Always assuming the mutations don't become too diverse for a single vaccine system to handle.
The economy can't stand an unending lockdown lasting for years, neither can the education system. Let alone public morale. There is going to have to be some sort of middle way struck, keeping the disease suppressed while still allowing things to function to some extent. |  |
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