| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? 15:51 - Jul 13 with 4845 views | BlueRaider |
I think we have to make them pariahs, make them socially unacceptable until they can behave like normal people.
- Get really tough on racist posts and comments
- Get really tough on public order offences
For those found guilty
- Remove their passports so they can't travel and embarrass us abroad
- Ban them from being able to buy tickets to events (sport, music, fesitvals etc)
Something also needs to be done about the alcohol culture. It affects people in different ways, most are fine and it makes them more fun and sociable. For me it makes me sleepy and irritable (not violent or abusive), so I don't bother with it. No idea how we go about tackling that though ! |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 15:53 - Jul 13 with 2425 views | wkj |
Ban them from being able to work as Civil Servants and politicians. |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 15:56 - Jul 13 with 2412 views | hype313 |
Lets be honest, If Alcohol was invented now it would be classed as a Class A drug. Unfortunately that horse bolted years ago, trying to stop these things is incredibly hard, Social Media companies need to step up, their algorithms could easily stop 90% of racist tweets, would also help if we didn't have an overtly racist government fanning flames too.
Regarding football, Sunday could have easily been sorted if the authorities pulled their finger out, we've seen how easy it is to stop violence by what happens at PR during Derby Day. |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 15:56 - Jul 13 with 2412 views | Blueschev |
For a start, people could stop voting for them. |  | | |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:00 - Jul 13 with 2388 views | noggin |
The British drinking culture is a huge part of the problem. Most of these prlcks don't behave like that when they're sober.Apparently pubs were busy by 9 am on Sunday. I have no idea what you can do about it. |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:04 - Jul 13 with 2366 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:00 - Jul 13 by noggin |
The British drinking culture is a huge part of the problem. Most of these prlcks don't behave like that when they're sober.Apparently pubs were busy by 9 am on Sunday. I have no idea what you can do about it. |
Don't let them serve alcohol before a certain time would be a good start.
It's always puzzled me in airports. Just because you are going on holiday, why are you able to get plastered at 9am?
When alcohol sales times were removed, it was hoped we'd go all French and have a healthy relationship with alcohol, sitting outside pubs, taking all afternoon to finish a carafe of wine.
No, we just started getting smashed on Lowenbrau on all day benders. |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:14 - Jul 13 with 2311 views | Bluefish |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:00 - Jul 13 by noggin |
The British drinking culture is a huge part of the problem. Most of these prlcks don't behave like that when they're sober.Apparently pubs were busy by 9 am on Sunday. I have no idea what you can do about it. |
WTF? I love a binge drink but I am never ever a racist |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:19 - Jul 13 with 2280 views | noggin |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:14 - Jul 13 by Bluefish |
WTF? I love a binge drink but I am never ever a racist |
This is more the unsocial behaviour than the racism. Bottles, cans and barriers being thrown around outside Wembley and in Central London is the result of binge drinking. Congratulations for not being a racist though. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:22 - Jul 13 with 2269 views | Darth_Koont |
I think there’s a wider point about our values in society. There’s an accepted ignorance, selfishness, lack of empathy and respect that is going to present itself in a more extreme fashion by a minority.
Until we have politicians and a media who really champion the opposite of those, and put their money where their mouth is to close gaps and heal divisions, then we’ll have a society that expresses itself in this way. |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:23 - Jul 13 with 2253 views | Bluefish |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:19 - Jul 13 by noggin |
This is more the unsocial behaviour than the racism. Bottles, cans and barriers being thrown around outside Wembley and in Central London is the result of binge drinking. Congratulations for not being a racist though. |
Perhaps football is the issue, or maybe just d*ckheads? I will be at TB for the cricket on Friday, 6 of us will go on a whole day session at a stupid pace. We will get hammered and sun burned but at no point will be start throwing things round | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:26 - Jul 13 with 2218 views | chicoazul |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:23 - Jul 13 by Bluefish |
Perhaps football is the issue, or maybe just d*ckheads? I will be at TB for the cricket on Friday, 6 of us will go on a whole day session at a stupid pace. We will get hammered and sun burned but at no point will be start throwing things round |
But maybe people around you will think you’re acting like knobs and thugs? |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:28 - Jul 13 with 2212 views | chicoazul |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:22 - Jul 13 by Darth_Koont |
I think there’s a wider point about our values in society. There’s an accepted ignorance, selfishness, lack of empathy and respect that is going to present itself in a more extreme fashion by a minority.
Until we have politicians and a media who really champion the opposite of those, and put their money where their mouth is to close gaps and heal divisions, then we’ll have a society that expresses itself in this way. |
That’s 60 years of comprehensive education for you. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:28 - Jul 13 with 2211 views | noggin |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:23 - Jul 13 by Bluefish |
Perhaps football is the issue, or maybe just d*ckheads? I will be at TB for the cricket on Friday, 6 of us will go on a whole day session at a stupid pace. We will get hammered and sun burned but at no point will be start throwing things round |
So we should ban football? These dickheads attach themselves to the national football team and have been shaming the rest of us for decades. Binge drinking is something Britain is famous for, as is football related disorder. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:31 - Jul 13 with 2186 views | Darth_Koont |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:28 - Jul 13 by chicoazul |
That’s 60 years of comprehensive education for you. |
I really don’t like you (or more specifically your board persona as I don’t know you).
But you come across as the sort of person at the core of the problem. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:34 - Jul 13 with 2153 views | footers |
Maybe if we try and talk to them and ask them to stop that might help? If we understood their concerns then it might put an end to it. |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:35 - Jul 13 with 2144 views | footers |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:31 - Jul 13 by Darth_Koont |
I really don’t like you (or more specifically your board persona as I don’t know you).
But you come across as the sort of person at the core of the problem. |
Leave off chickers. He's just been doing his sub-Hitchens act since his return. It's been mildly amusing in terms of bites but not really. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:37 - Jul 13 with 2128 views | BlueBadger |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:23 - Jul 13 by Bluefish |
Perhaps football is the issue, or maybe just d*ckheads? I will be at TB for the cricket on Friday, 6 of us will go on a whole day session at a stupid pace. We will get hammered and sun burned but at no point will be start throwing things round |
If it helps Fishers, we all think you're a dickhead when you're sober as well? |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:39 - Jul 13 with 2121 views | Darth_Koont |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:35 - Jul 13 by footers |
Leave off chickers. He's just been doing his sub-Hitchens act since his return. It's been mildly amusing in terms of bites but not really. |
“Sub-Hitchens act” ... nailed it. 
I wonder if chico has a brother who is a little bit nicer and a whole lot sharper? | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:47 - Jul 13 with 2063 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:28 - Jul 13 by chicoazul |
That’s 60 years of comprehensive education for you. |
Most people are only in comprehensive education for 5 years... |  |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:49 - Jul 13 with 2054 views | chicoazul |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:31 - Jul 13 by Darth_Koont |
I really don’t like you (or more specifically your board persona as I don’t know you).
But you come across as the sort of person at the core of the problem. |
Once you seize the means of production I’m sure I’ll be first against the wall. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:00 - Jul 13 with 2000 views | Bluefish |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:37 - Jul 13 by BlueBadger |
If it helps Fishers, we all think you're a dickhead when you're sober as well? |
I've never been on here sober | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:04 - Jul 13 with 1967 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:14 - Jul 13 by Bluefish |
WTF? I love a binge drink but I am never ever a racist |
A very good point Bluefish.
For what my point of view is worth, I believe in denying them the publicity that they thrive on might just assist. Also let the authorities target those known racists who perpetually show their vile contempt for others.
Finally let us show more of the decency that abounds in our society; have you seen lately the Marcus Rashford mural in Withington and what it looks like now!
We decent folk in society far outweigh the indecent folk, so let us stop giving the opinion that it is not so and support those that need and deserve it, rather than continuing to give publicity to those that seek it. | | | |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:08 - Jul 13 with 1944 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:23 - Jul 13 by Bluefish |
Perhaps football is the issue, or maybe just d*ckheads? I will be at TB for the cricket on Friday, 6 of us will go on a whole day session at a stupid pace. We will get hammered and sun burned but at no point will be start throwing things round |
See you there Bluefish - am going with my son, but one of us has to drive!!!. will be a late night whatever happens! Like you though, i might sing a few stupid songs and join in the beer cup snake, but that does not make me a thug, a racist or any sort of bad 'un. | | | |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:19 - Jul 13 with 1902 views | Darth_Koont |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 16:49 - Jul 13 by chicoazul |
Once you seize the means of production I’m sure I’ll be first against the wall. |
Once you seize the means of reproduction you won’t be such a cockwomble. | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:20 - Jul 13 with 1900 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:04 - Jul 13 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
A very good point Bluefish.
For what my point of view is worth, I believe in denying them the publicity that they thrive on might just assist. Also let the authorities target those known racists who perpetually show their vile contempt for others.
Finally let us show more of the decency that abounds in our society; have you seen lately the Marcus Rashford mural in Withington and what it looks like now!
We decent folk in society far outweigh the indecent folk, so let us stop giving the opinion that it is not so and support those that need and deserve it, rather than continuing to give publicity to those that seek it. |
Point of Order, Mr Sealion - I don't think anyone is giving the opinion that the indecent folk outweigh the decent folk in society... | |
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| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:26 - Jul 13 with 1873 views | BlueBadger |
| How do we deal with the thugs and racists ? on 17:04 - Jul 13 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
A very good point Bluefish.
For what my point of view is worth, I believe in denying them the publicity that they thrive on might just assist. Also let the authorities target those known racists who perpetually show their vile contempt for others.
Finally let us show more of the decency that abounds in our society; have you seen lately the Marcus Rashford mural in Withington and what it looks like now!
We decent folk in society far outweigh the indecent folk, so let us stop giving the opinion that it is not so and support those that need and deserve it, rather than continuing to give publicity to those that seek it. |
Stopping voting for them would probably also help a lot. | |
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