| Be afraid 09:04 - Dec 12 with 2061 views | GlasgowBlue |
Be vey afraid.
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| Be afraid on 09:08 - Dec 12 with 2003 views | gordon |
Sunak, Truss, Raab, Patel or Gove I guess? Patel and Truss the most batsh*t crazy and thus appealing most to the members? |  | | |
| Be afraid on 09:15 - Dec 12 with 1944 views | solomon |
The cruella de vil of British politics, please god no. [Post edited 12 Dec 2021 9:18]
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| Be afraid on 09:19 - Dec 12 with 1890 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Be afraid on 09:15 - Dec 12 by solomon |
The cruella de vil of British politics, please god no. [Post edited 12 Dec 2021 9:18]
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Cracking her whip in a room full of public school boys. At least Spitting Image would be good. |  |
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| Be afraid on 10:46 - Dec 12 with 1726 views | Guthrum |
Everyone said that about Home Office hardwoman Theresa May. Instead she turned out to be ... rather limp.
I don't get the impression Patel is competent and careful enough to last long as PM (e.g. getting caught out doing private diplomacy in Israel). Neither does she have the bumbling "likeable" image of Johnson, to help her win elections. Thatcher projected cerebral dominance, rather than leather-clad dominatrix. Her profile is lower than some of the potential candidates (Gove, Sunak), but is still very tied to the current regime (unlike Hunt or other outsiders). [Post edited 12 Dec 2021 10:52]
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| Be afraid on 10:47 - Dec 12 with 1710 views | pointofblue |
Be Careful What You Wish For? |  |
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| Be afraid on 10:53 - Dec 12 with 1680 views | eireblue |
Crikey, if she can get over eleventy fifteen thousand percent…. |  | | |
| Be afraid on 10:55 - Dec 12 with 1667 views | Keno |
Now I'm not drawing any direct comparisons here but .....
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| Be afraid on 11:23 - Dec 12 with 1606 views | catch74 |
They’re all circling.
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| Be afraid on 12:15 - Dec 12 with 1513 views | tractordownsouth |
Truss would be the ideal PM from that bunch. She’s not as awful as Patel but isn’t as polished as someone like Sunak or Javid, so would be more vulnerable in a General Election. |  |
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| Be afraid on 12:17 - Dec 12 with 1489 views | pointofblue |
| Be afraid on 12:15 - Dec 12 by tractordownsouth |
Truss would be the ideal PM from that bunch. She’s not as awful as Patel but isn’t as polished as someone like Sunak or Javid, so would be more vulnerable in a General Election. |
From a Conservative point of view Javid is the most logical but he’s been handed a difficult assignment in Health. Hancock is a walking joke and won’t get anywhere near it. Truss will be another May - more competent than Johnson, as it’s surely impossible not to be, but she’ll struggle to sell herself to the people. I think Sunak might come across as a Blair/Cameron clone; I think people could be put off for that reason. | |
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| Be afraid on 12:58 - Dec 12 with 1394 views | WeWereZombies |
| Be afraid on 10:46 - Dec 12 by Guthrum |
Everyone said that about Home Office hardwoman Theresa May. Instead she turned out to be ... rather limp.
I don't get the impression Patel is competent and careful enough to last long as PM (e.g. getting caught out doing private diplomacy in Israel). Neither does she have the bumbling "likeable" image of Johnson, to help her win elections. Thatcher projected cerebral dominance, rather than leather-clad dominatrix. Her profile is lower than some of the potential candidates (Gove, Sunak), but is still very tied to the current regime (unlike Hunt or other outsiders). [Post edited 12 Dec 2021 10:52]
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I wonder if Jeremy Hunt is really all that much of an outsider, he has retained a degree of public office (Chair of the Health and Social Care Select Committee) as well as having a large constituency majority. At fifty five he is probably around the target age for a prime minister and does have over nine years of Secretary of State experience, albeit only one of those years being in the 'Great Offices of State'. Hopefully he has learned a bit from his mistakes too. |  |
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| Be afraid on 13:01 - Dec 12 with 1374 views | hype313 |
If Johnson does get the boot then surely we would have another GE if one of the names considered gets the gig? |  |
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| Be afraid on 13:03 - Dec 12 with 1366 views | NthQldITFC |
| Be afraid on 11:23 - Dec 12 by catch74 |
They’re all circling.
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| Be afraid on 13:07 - Dec 12 with 1344 views | DanTheMan |
| Be afraid on 11:23 - Dec 12 by catch74 |
They’re all circling.
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Oh please let it be Hancock, that'd be hilarious. |  |
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| Be afraid on 13:13 - Dec 12 with 1319 views | HARRY10 |
| Be afraid on 12:58 - Dec 12 by WeWereZombies |
I wonder if Jeremy Hunt is really all that much of an outsider, he has retained a degree of public office (Chair of the Health and Social Care Select Committee) as well as having a large constituency majority. At fifty five he is probably around the target age for a prime minister and does have over nine years of Secretary of State experience, albeit only one of those years being in the 'Great Offices of State'. Hopefully he has learned a bit from his mistakes too. |
I have Hunt at 25/1 from autumn 2019 - so there would be some benefit, for me.
As to Patel it is a measure of how remote from reality some of these Tories are. Maybe she could stand for deform/brexit or some other rightwing fuitcake party. But to be PM, dear god. | | | |
| Be afraid on 13:14 - Dec 12 with 1315 views | footers |
Wouldn't the security services put the block on her considering her little whoopsie as regards meeting the Israelis?
Can't even see how she's been vetted to be Home Sec. |  |
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| Be afraid on 13:15 - Dec 12 with 1313 views | ZXBlue |
| Be afraid on 13:01 - Dec 12 by hype313 |
If Johnson does get the boot then surely we would have another GE if one of the names considered gets the gig? |
Why? We didnt last time, and the precedent was set not to bother when Blair passed to Brown so Labour can;t very well complain about it either. | | | |
| Be afraid on 13:23 - Dec 12 with 1276 views | HARRY10 |
| Be afraid on 13:15 - Dec 12 by ZXBlue |
Why? We didnt last time, and the precedent was set not to bother when Blair passed to Brown so Labour can;t very well complain about it either. |
As with Wilson/Callaghan and Thatcher/Major.
We elect a party in the UK, not a president. | | | |
| Be afraid on 14:09 - Dec 12 with 1182 views | mylittletown |
| Be afraid on 13:15 - Dec 12 by ZXBlue |
Why? We didnt last time, and the precedent was set not to bother when Blair passed to Brown so Labour can;t very well complain about it either. |
To be fair there have been numerous examples of the PM job changing hands without an election, Blair/Brown was by no means the first.
Since 1940, (and there were many instances before) Churchill, Eden, MacMillan, Douglas Home, Callaghan, Major, Brown, May and Johnson assumed office without an election.
So you can't really pin it on Blair/Brown or Labour, for that matter. |  | | |
| Be afraid on 14:12 - Dec 12 with 1158 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Is anybody surprised?
Can add Therese Coffey to the list of rabid extremists who would like to be at the top. |  |
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| Be afraid on 14:23 - Dec 12 with 1132 views | HARRY10 |
| Be afraid on 14:12 - Dec 12 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is anybody surprised?
Can add Therese Coffey to the list of rabid extremists who would like to be at the top. |
The Tories do attract pretty vile specimens when it comes to females - Thatcher, Leadsom, Patel, Curry, Widdecombe and now this Les Dawson impersonator Coffey | | | |
| Be afraid on 14:55 - Dec 12 with 1054 views | Guthrum |
| Be afraid on 12:58 - Dec 12 by WeWereZombies |
I wonder if Jeremy Hunt is really all that much of an outsider, he has retained a degree of public office (Chair of the Health and Social Care Select Committee) as well as having a large constituency majority. At fifty five he is probably around the target age for a prime minister and does have over nine years of Secretary of State experience, albeit only one of those years being in the 'Great Offices of State'. Hopefully he has learned a bit from his mistakes too. |
Regarding Hunt, I meant an outsider in terms of Johnson's current gang. He's kept himself well clear of that. | |
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| Be afraid on 15:15 - Dec 12 with 1005 views | GeoffSentence |
| Be afraid on 12:58 - Dec 12 by WeWereZombies |
I wonder if Jeremy Hunt is really all that much of an outsider, he has retained a degree of public office (Chair of the Health and Social Care Select Committee) as well as having a large constituency majority. At fifty five he is probably around the target age for a prime minister and does have over nine years of Secretary of State experience, albeit only one of those years being in the 'Great Offices of State'. Hopefully he has learned a bit from his mistakes too. |
He always sounds reasonably competent and intelligent too. For that reason I don't think he has a look in. The tory party membership seems intent on picking incompetent populists. With Johnson they got that wrapped up in jolly buffoon packaging which appealed to a lot of people who aren't died in the wool tories. The remaining candidates of thst ilk don't have the appealing levity of BoJo and will most likely appall the majprity of the population when they get their hands on the wheels of power. |  |
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| Be afraid on 16:39 - Dec 12 with 907 views | jaykay |
| Be afraid on 10:55 - Dec 12 by Keno |
Now I'm not drawing any direct comparisons here but .....
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| Be afraid on 16:39 - Dec 12 with 906 views | BlueBadger |
| Be afraid on 15:15 - Dec 12 by GeoffSentence |
He always sounds reasonably competent and intelligent too. For that reason I don't think he has a look in. The tory party membership seems intent on picking incompetent populists. With Johnson they got that wrapped up in jolly buffoon packaging which appealed to a lot of people who aren't died in the wool tories. The remaining candidates of thst ilk don't have the appealing levity of BoJo and will most likely appall the majprity of the population when they get their hands on the wheels of power. |
He only looks competent in comparison to the rest of them.
He is not.
He is equally as vile, bigoted, corrupt and incompetent as the rest, he just hides it slightly better. |  |
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