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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy 08:22 - Oct 7 with 3124 viewsSteve_M

I expected her to be sh1t, but not this sh1t:



Incredible idiocy.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:30 - Oct 7 with 1826 viewsPlums

The fact the PM needs to even know about such a thing, never mind sign off on it shows what a dysfunctional state government is in.

This is Marcus Evans and the dishwasher territory
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:37 - Oct 7 with 1793 viewsNthQldITFC

She is 'ideologically opposed' to any conventional, let alone progressive, form of responsible leadership.

She is only ideologically aligned with insane concepts based on greed.

She is an idiot.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:39 - Oct 7 with 1790 viewsITFC_Forever

It is quite incredible how in the past decade we have been able to replace a completely and utterly hopeless Prime Minister with one that is even worse.

Despite being a Tory, Cameron wasn't too bad - but the gamble to offer the Brexit vote will forever tarnish him. After that, is been one disasterous PM followed by an even bigger one.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:46 - Oct 7 with 1760 viewsChrisd

The country is crying out for some proper leadership from our PM, we had little from Bojo or on those rare occasions when he did, it was far too late and now Truss seems to be following suit. Is it any wonder this country is in a mess?
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:51 - Oct 7 with 1742 viewsBloomBlue

To be honest do adults in this country need that advice, surely people have enough commonsense to understand how to reduce energy especially with global warming/climate change and cost of living crisis?

But hey a nanny state is a nanny state I guess
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:56 - Oct 7 with 1717 viewsDubtractor

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:51 - Oct 7 by BloomBlue

To be honest do adults in this country need that advice, surely people have enough commonsense to understand how to reduce energy especially with global warming/climate change and cost of living crisis?

But hey a nanny state is a nanny state I guess


You've met the general public I assume?

Common sense isn't as widespread as you'd hope.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:09 - Oct 7 with 1664 viewsSteve_M

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:51 - Oct 7 by BloomBlue

To be honest do adults in this country need that advice, surely people have enough commonsense to understand how to reduce energy especially with global warming/climate change and cost of living crisis?

But hey a nanny state is a nanny state I guess


It's not so much the general theme of using less energy but how to and which devices are most energy-intensive.

For example, LED lights don't cost much to run so telling people they don't need to sit in the dark might help. I'm fairly clued up in this are and I didn't realise how efficient modern dishwashers are. Even making more people aware of times of peak demand should help, in aggregate, to shift some of that demand.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:10 - Oct 7 with 1662 viewsEdwardStone

Early years Truss was a republican Remainer Lib Dem and I think she is sticking to her Lib Dem principles

Which means to actually have very flexible principles. In my time campaigning on Green issues, I found that the greenest of green were LDs... there was literally nothing they wouldn't say to appear to be the most concerned about any particular issue

However, their actions invariably belied their words

Like a shape-shifting chameleon, she has simply says anything and everything to blend in with her background; in this case the barking mad state shrinkers of the swivel-eyed right of the Tory party
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:11 - Oct 7 with 1653 viewsSteve_M

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:37 - Oct 7 by NthQldITFC

She is 'ideologically opposed' to any conventional, let alone progressive, form of responsible leadership.

She is only ideologically aligned with insane concepts based on greed.

She is an idiot.


One slight caveat to that which should at least be noted is that she seems to have moved on from the performative rows with the EU that Johnson used.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:11 - Oct 7 with 1652 viewsOldsmoker

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:37 - Oct 7 by NthQldITFC

She is 'ideologically opposed' to any conventional, let alone progressive, form of responsible leadership.

She is only ideologically aligned with insane concepts based on greed.

She is an idiot.


No-one wants to hear advice nowadays - especially from experts.
Saying that, the advice from PM's isn't that clever either.
We shouldn't leave all the big decisions to the PM 'cos they know best because.....

Cameron - lets have a referendum
May - get rid of 20,000 police and create a hostile environment
Johnson - lets spend 45bn on dud gear from con-men.
Truss - Starve the poor to feed the rich

Don't believe a word I say. I'm only kidding. Or am I?
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:27 - Oct 7 with 1591 viewshomer_123

How can she be ideologically opposed?

She doesn't have a thought of her own in her head.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:27 - Oct 7 with 1589 viewsGeoffSentence

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:51 - Oct 7 by BloomBlue

To be honest do adults in this country need that advice, surely people have enough commonsense to understand how to reduce energy especially with global warming/climate change and cost of living crisis?

But hey a nanny state is a nanny state I guess


I honestly don't see how giving people information and letting them act on it themselves is nannying them.

Don't boil a kettle on a boat.
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Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:43 - Oct 7 with 1557 viewsBloots

....of those situations where if they do give advice everyone will rip the pi55 out of them for telling us to turn the heating down or only boil enough water for what you need.

"They've wasted £15m on telling us to turn our lights off! They could have bought 1.5m packets of Lambert & Butler with that money"

Or they'll say that kids should share a bath and all they'll get is "is this what we're reduced to" type stuff.

I don't see how they can win in this very specific situation personally.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:48 - Oct 7 with 1544 viewsBlueBadger

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:39 - Oct 7 by ITFC_Forever

It is quite incredible how in the past decade we have been able to replace a completely and utterly hopeless Prime Minister with one that is even worse.

Despite being a Tory, Cameron wasn't too bad - but the gamble to offer the Brexit vote will forever tarnish him. After that, is been one disasterous PM followed by an even bigger one.


Cameron was fooking awful. A smiling sociopath who pushed through massive, ideologically driven austerity, privatisation, benefit cuts, tax breaks for the top set and culture wars.

He just looks 'good' compared to what followed and was just about clever enough to either use Lib Dems as human shields or do a 'compassionate' looking interview every so often.

In reality, he was Paul Hurst - corner cutting at every opportunity and trashing the country though his own hubris.
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:49 - Oct 7 with 1530 viewsBlueBadger

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:51 - Oct 7 by BloomBlue

To be honest do adults in this country need that advice, surely people have enough commonsense to understand how to reduce energy especially with global warming/climate change and cost of living crisis?

But hey a nanny state is a nanny state I guess


Ah yes, the party of self reliance who've seen the last decade finding someone, anyone to blame for their failures.

Also: informed choice isn't 'nannying', it's ensuring people have the correct tools to make decisions.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:50 - Oct 7 with 1515 viewsWeWereZombies

Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:43 - Oct 7 by Bloots

....of those situations where if they do give advice everyone will rip the pi55 out of them for telling us to turn the heating down or only boil enough water for what you need.

"They've wasted £15m on telling us to turn our lights off! They could have bought 1.5m packets of Lambert & Butler with that money"

Or they'll say that kids should share a bath and all they'll get is "is this what we're reduced to" type stuff.

I don't see how they can win in this very specific situation personally.


I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

I have seen too many people fill up an electric kettle to the 'max' marker and then switch it on to make one or two cups of tea to underestimate the number of times the message has to be delivered. Inculcation takes a lot of effort, although it can be difficult to know exactly when to stop....

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Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:51 - Oct 7 with 1506 viewsSteve_M

Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:43 - Oct 7 by Bloots

....of those situations where if they do give advice everyone will rip the pi55 out of them for telling us to turn the heating down or only boil enough water for what you need.

"They've wasted £15m on telling us to turn our lights off! They could have bought 1.5m packets of Lambert & Butler with that money"

Or they'll say that kids should share a bath and all they'll get is "is this what we're reduced to" type stuff.

I don't see how they can win in this very specific situation personally.


Well, they do what is right for the country surely. Reducing peak demand this Winter is something that will benefit everyone.

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I agree.... on 10:00 - Oct 7 with 1462 viewsBloots

Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:51 - Oct 7 by Steve_M

Well, they do what is right for the country surely. Reducing peak demand this Winter is something that will benefit everyone.


....but you watch what will happen if they do.

It's the cycle that we are in unfortunately.

Everyone should have a smart meter installed.

I got mine down to a usage of 35w the other morning, I think the only thing using electricity was the meter itself.

I was delighted, so delighted that I celebrated by boiling a massive kettle and leaving the iron on.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:06 - Oct 7 with 1420 viewsMattinLondon

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:30 - Oct 7 by Plums

The fact the PM needs to even know about such a thing, never mind sign off on it shows what a dysfunctional state government is in.

This is Marcus Evans and the dishwasher territory
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I’ve never thought of that, but you’re right, she is the Marcus Evans of politics.

Probably thought that promotion/ becoming a popular PM would be easy, employed the wrong people in the wrong areas, an ineffective budget and trying to micro-manage pathetic things whilst neglecting proper infrastructure. Oh and destroying the younger generation.
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I agree.... on 10:10 - Oct 7 with 1408 viewsSteve_M

I agree.... on 10:00 - Oct 7 by Bloots

....but you watch what will happen if they do.

It's the cycle that we are in unfortunately.

Everyone should have a smart meter installed.

I got mine down to a usage of 35w the other morning, I think the only thing using electricity was the meter itself.

I was delighted, so delighted that I celebrated by boiling a massive kettle and leaving the iron on.


it's still the right thing to do. Reducing demand also massively reduces the enormous cost of the cap this Winter.

Agree on the smart metres, the visualisation helps guide usage.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:11 - Oct 7 with 1400 viewsSwansea_Blue

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:37 - Oct 7 by NthQldITFC

She is 'ideologically opposed' to any conventional, let alone progressive, form of responsible leadership.

She is only ideologically aligned with insane concepts based on greed.

She is an idiot.


I can't quite get my head around that. She's ideologically opposed to reducing consumption to save people money and to help safeguard supplies (which is the main driver here) during an impending energy crisis which is leading us to prepare for blackouts?

Is she married to an oil/gas tycoon?

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:13 - Oct 7 with 1389 viewsGuthrum

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:27 - Oct 7 by homer_123

How can she be ideologically opposed?

She doesn't have a thought of her own in her head.


I don't quite see how one can be "ideologically opposed" to good advice, either.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:15 - Oct 7 with 1372 viewsBlueBadger

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:06 - Oct 7 by MattinLondon

I’ve never thought of that, but you’re right, she is the Marcus Evans of politics.

Probably thought that promotion/ becoming a popular PM would be easy, employed the wrong people in the wrong areas, an ineffective budget and trying to micro-manage pathetic things whilst neglecting proper infrastructure. Oh and destroying the younger generation.


Nah, the British electorate are Marcus Evans for allowing these scumbags so much time.

Cameron was Hurst - destroyed the country through his hubris, Johnson was Lambert - patently unfit for the job but good enough with a soundbite and his own PR that he conned enough people for long enough to do some lasting damage.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:15 - Oct 7 with 1364 viewsBlueBadger

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:13 - Oct 7 by Guthrum

I don't quite see how one can be "ideologically opposed" to good advice, either.


We've all had enough of experts, remember.

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Unfortunately this is one.... on 10:20 - Oct 7 with 1364 viewsGuthrum

Unfortunately this is one.... on 09:43 - Oct 7 by Bloots

....of those situations where if they do give advice everyone will rip the pi55 out of them for telling us to turn the heating down or only boil enough water for what you need.

"They've wasted £15m on telling us to turn our lights off! They could have bought 1.5m packets of Lambert & Butler with that money"

Or they'll say that kids should share a bath and all they'll get is "is this what we're reduced to" type stuff.

I don't see how they can win in this very specific situation personally.


That's part of the problem. It's become too much about "winning" (and things such as "annoying the right people"), rather than acting rationally* in the best interests of the country.

Also, if they gave a better overall impression of competence, opennness and stability, then there would be a lot less p1sstaking.


* If your actions are rational, then there is not so much need to fear or avoid explanation and analysis.

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