| Well done Saudi Arabia! 12:08 - Nov 22 with 2118 views | gainsboroughblue |
What a result. Well deserved too. |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:12 - Nov 22 with 2099 views | ITFCson |
I feel sorry for the people who are apparently boycotting.
They have just missed a purely joyful football experience. Sad. |  | | |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:15 - Nov 22 with 2077 views | Darth_Koont |
I love a good “minnow defeats the big fish” story.
But Saudi Arabia FFS ... just not doing it for me. |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:19 - Nov 22 with 2023 views | Churchman |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:15 - Nov 22 by Darth_Koont |
I love a good “minnow defeats the big fish” story.
But Saudi Arabia FFS ... just not doing it for me. |
Think of it as less about Saudi Arabia and more Argentina having to scrape egg off their faces which less face it, is amusing. |  | | |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:21 - Nov 22 with 2019 views | LeoMuff |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:19 - Nov 22 by Churchman |
Think of it as less about Saudi Arabia and more Argentina having to scrape egg off their faces which less face it, is amusing. |
Certainly torn here, was hoping Saudis would be routed, but also got to love a bit of pain for Argentina… |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:22 - Nov 22 with 2004 views | Darth_Koont |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:19 - Nov 22 by Churchman |
Think of it as less about Saudi Arabia and more Argentina having to scrape egg off their faces which less face it, is amusing. |
True – and it’s probably made the rest of the group games much more interesting.
But I’d still have preferred the Saudis to have been gubbed. | |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:39 - Nov 22 with 1928 views | Ftnfwest |
great performance! Some of those lads know how to look after themselves as well... |  | | |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:56 - Nov 22 with 1860 views | jeera |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:12 - Nov 22 by ITFCson |
I feel sorry for the people who are apparently boycotting.
They have just missed a purely joyful football experience. Sad. |
It's extremely sad the way you keep focusing on these people.
You might want to ask yourself why their decisions are concerning you so much. |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:06 - Nov 22 with 1813 views | BlueBadger |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:56 - Nov 22 by jeera |
It's extremely sad the way you keep focusing on these people.
You might want to ask yourself why their decisions are concerning you so much. |
Not so much on here, but in the wider internet and real world, it's been interesting watching people who'd normally be ranting about the evils of Islam put aside their hatred of Muslims in favour of hating on LGBTQ people and women in general now the World Cup's taking place in a (particularly unpleasant)Muslim country |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:08 - Nov 22 with 1788 views | clive_baker |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:15 - Nov 22 by Darth_Koont |
I love a good “minnow defeats the big fish” story.
But Saudi Arabia FFS ... just not doing it for me. |
You mean seeing Saudia Arabia winning in the Qatar World Cup didn't have you wiping a tear from your eye? |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:09 - Nov 22 with 1768 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
Perhaps some will give England a bit more credit for comprehensively beating Iran as surely the Saudi’s are only a pub team  |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:11 - Nov 22 with 1752 views | jeera |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:06 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
Not so much on here, but in the wider internet and real world, it's been interesting watching people who'd normally be ranting about the evils of Islam put aside their hatred of Muslims in favour of hating on LGBTQ people and women in general now the World Cup's taking place in a (particularly unpleasant)Muslim country |
People tend to turn on others when part of their own conscience is disturbed.
We're not comfortable looking at ourselves so need to look for someone to blame for it when it happens.
Apparently. | |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:20 - Nov 22 with 1695 views | Darth_Koont |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:08 - Nov 22 by clive_baker |
You mean seeing Saudia Arabia winning in the Qatar World Cup didn't have you wiping a tear from your eye? |
Yeah, me and my cold, stone heart. 😀 | |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:23 - Nov 22 with 1694 views | Asa |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:06 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
Not so much on here, but in the wider internet and real world, it's been interesting watching people who'd normally be ranting about the evils of Islam put aside their hatred of Muslims in favour of hating on LGBTQ people and women in general now the World Cup's taking place in a (particularly unpleasant)Muslim country |
Hopefully people can do both.
I am appalled by what Qatar is, what FIFA are and the fact that the World Cup is being held there. Appalled by the migrant deaths and the hundreds of horror stories about how that region treats women and homosexuals.
However, the individual FA's haven't boycotted the World Cup. Nor have the players. Or the TV stations. Or the pundits. Or the media.
So I am not sure why there seems to be this huge shift to suggest that you or I should have to boycott it and take some superior moral stance against the regime and the reason. People should be free to comment on the World Cup matches and stories as they unfold without having to qualify how laughable the circumstances surrounding the tournament, the hosts and FIFA are each time.
In an ideal world all of the national teams would have refused to play and a new governing body would have been formed. The power probably was with 10-12 of the 'super' nations who have had 8-10 years or whatever it is to do something about it and haven't. If the FA's and countries themselves, who have some power, are willing to go ahead, I don't think fans (who likely just want a bit of escapism and to enjoy the football itself and have asbolutely no power in where the tournament is held) can be subject to higher standards of morality. [Post edited 22 Nov 2022 13:34]
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:36 - Nov 22 with 1613 views | Darth_Koont |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:23 - Nov 22 by Asa |
Hopefully people can do both.
I am appalled by what Qatar is, what FIFA are and the fact that the World Cup is being held there. Appalled by the migrant deaths and the hundreds of horror stories about how that region treats women and homosexuals.
However, the individual FA's haven't boycotted the World Cup. Nor have the players. Or the TV stations. Or the pundits. Or the media.
So I am not sure why there seems to be this huge shift to suggest that you or I should have to boycott it and take some superior moral stance against the regime and the reason. People should be free to comment on the World Cup matches and stories as they unfold without having to qualify how laughable the circumstances surrounding the tournament, the hosts and FIFA are each time.
In an ideal world all of the national teams would have refused to play and a new governing body would have been formed. The power probably was with 10-12 of the 'super' nations who have had 8-10 years or whatever it is to do something about it and haven't. If the FA's and countries themselves, who have some power, are willing to go ahead, I don't think fans (who likely just want a bit of escapism and to enjoy the football itself and have asbolutely no power in where the tournament is held) can be subject to higher standards of morality. [Post edited 22 Nov 2022 13:34]
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This is the issue. Are fans or just individual people meant to take a stand when no-one else with actually responsibility does?
I’ll watch the (interesting) games because it’s a World F@#king Cup. And go on the attack against all those who thought this particular one was a good idea.
On a connected note, the UK sells arms and strategically partners Saudi Arabia, even training the pilots that are dropping bombs on Yemeni men, women and children. I hope the numerous vocal critics of Qatar (a very bad but still much less oppressive and less totalitarian regime) put their money where their mouth is. And where it really matters. | |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:39 - Nov 22 with 1617 views | BlueBadger |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:23 - Nov 22 by Asa |
Hopefully people can do both.
I am appalled by what Qatar is, what FIFA are and the fact that the World Cup is being held there. Appalled by the migrant deaths and the hundreds of horror stories about how that region treats women and homosexuals.
However, the individual FA's haven't boycotted the World Cup. Nor have the players. Or the TV stations. Or the pundits. Or the media.
So I am not sure why there seems to be this huge shift to suggest that you or I should have to boycott it and take some superior moral stance against the regime and the reason. People should be free to comment on the World Cup matches and stories as they unfold without having to qualify how laughable the circumstances surrounding the tournament, the hosts and FIFA are each time.
In an ideal world all of the national teams would have refused to play and a new governing body would have been formed. The power probably was with 10-12 of the 'super' nations who have had 8-10 years or whatever it is to do something about it and haven't. If the FA's and countries themselves, who have some power, are willing to go ahead, I don't think fans (who likely just want a bit of escapism and to enjoy the football itself and have asbolutely no power in where the tournament is held) can be subject to higher standards of morality. [Post edited 22 Nov 2022 13:34]
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To extent, the national FAs and players, etc, don't really have a choice wether they participate or not. I DO have a choice whether I engage or not.
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:43 - Nov 22 with 1582 views | Vaughan8 |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 12:12 - Nov 22 by ITFCson |
I feel sorry for the people who are apparently boycotting.
They have just missed a purely joyful football experience. Sad. |
I missed it............but i'm working as i'm sure the4 vast majority of people are! | | | |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:55 - Nov 22 with 1541 views | Crock |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:09 - Nov 22 by StochesStotasBlewe |
Perhaps some will give England a bit more credit for comprehensively beating Iran as surely the Saudi’s are only a pub team |
England were better than Argentina.
Saudi Arabia were better than Iran. |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 14:21 - Nov 22 with 1446 views | Swansea_Blue |
The penalty decision highlight inconsistencies in decisions again. That level of holding is pretty much standard in every corner in every league every weekend. Either agree it should be a foul or don't.
They tried to clamp down on holding from set pieces a couple of seasons ago, and for a while were giving penalties for things like this ant it made the headlines. That's all gone quiet since and now you rarely see a foul given for this type of contact. |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 14:23 - Nov 22 with 1431 views | GeoffSentence |
Love to see Argentina getting beaten by an underdog.
On another point, their penalty was much softer than the one we didnt get yesterday. |  |
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| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 14:44 - Nov 22 with 1398 views | Ryorry |
| Well done Saudi Arabia! on 13:23 - Nov 22 by Asa |
Hopefully people can do both.
I am appalled by what Qatar is, what FIFA are and the fact that the World Cup is being held there. Appalled by the migrant deaths and the hundreds of horror stories about how that region treats women and homosexuals.
However, the individual FA's haven't boycotted the World Cup. Nor have the players. Or the TV stations. Or the pundits. Or the media.
So I am not sure why there seems to be this huge shift to suggest that you or I should have to boycott it and take some superior moral stance against the regime and the reason. People should be free to comment on the World Cup matches and stories as they unfold without having to qualify how laughable the circumstances surrounding the tournament, the hosts and FIFA are each time.
In an ideal world all of the national teams would have refused to play and a new governing body would have been formed. The power probably was with 10-12 of the 'super' nations who have had 8-10 years or whatever it is to do something about it and haven't. If the FA's and countries themselves, who have some power, are willing to go ahead, I don't think fans (who likely just want a bit of escapism and to enjoy the football itself and have asbolutely no power in where the tournament is held) can be subject to higher standards of morality. [Post edited 22 Nov 2022 13:34]
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Not to mention that (and sorry to repeat this but some probably haven't seen my previous posts saying similar) individuals not watching or listening will go completely undetected by politicians, sports officials, decision makers & regime controllers, unless we are watching on an internet connected device which we've also agreed to allow monitoring of for audience research.
So as a form of public protest, it's useless. Individuals may still wish to carry out their private protests according to their consciences of course.
I like the fact that broadcasters are going out of their way to highlight the surrounding issues & not focussing purely on the football. ITV, eg, said something like "and as the (Denmark & Tunisia) teams come out into this stadium which has such a dark history of the lives of migrant workers lost in building it ...".
All the time, the evils of the Qatar regime are being highlighted, & will no doubt continue to be over the remaining 3.5 weeks of the tournament - definitely not what the regime wanted.
On a personal & selfish level, I'm watching the home nation games wherever possible, and am really enjoying the escapism in what for me are the worst 2 months of the year when it's cold, wet, gloomy & dark. In summer I'd be beating myself up for not cracking on with outside work when it's light & the weather's good. [Post edited 22 Nov 2022 14:51]
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