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Good on them Macron putting pension up from 62 to 64. In UK already 66 and going up wish we would protest in this country with so much passion especially against such a slime ball government .
Too much deference to our "betters". It's why we didn't remove the heads of our Monarchy when the French were getting on with it. Same thing as randoms saying 'Boris is one of us'.
Too much deference to our "betters". It's why we didn't remove the heads of our Monarchy when the French were getting on with it. Same thing as randoms saying 'Boris is one of us'.
Only an absolute c**t would say that ‘Boris is one of us’. But, to be fair, they would be right.
Interestingly when the state pension was first introduced around 1910 the age was set up at 70.
I think it was reduced to 65 after the war when all the state health service got going.
The problem of course is who is going to pay for it as people aren’t dying so quick. People moan about smokers but as a life long smoker and drinker I have paid more tax than most on this bloody forum and I will probably be at the lower end of the scale when it comes to the age I die. My Grandad smoked and drank all his life and only managed to nick a couple of years of pension despite paying large amounts of his income in alcohol and tobacco tax, my Nan however never smoked or drinked and lived until she was 98 with her last 10 years in a care home paid by the state.
So what are we gonna do about state pensions? There are currently under 4 workers per pensioner and with healthier lifestyles and advanced medical treatment it’s going to get worse - I mean, blimey, when you go to visit someone in hospital you see beds upon beds of old people just about hanging in there and when they nearly peg it it’s all hands on deck to revive them.
Absolute bloody bonkers.
Oh, and as for France, well yes, they love a good ding dong but the current uprising may very well have started about a pension increase but it’s now just out and out disorder. France is in a terrible mess and has been for a while.
Similar will happen in U.K. there will be some kind of flashpoint about something or other and then all the Routmasters will be ablaze for a few days.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
Interestingly when the state pension was first introduced around 1910 the age was set up at 70.
I think it was reduced to 65 after the war when all the state health service got going.
The problem of course is who is going to pay for it as people aren’t dying so quick. People moan about smokers but as a life long smoker and drinker I have paid more tax than most on this bloody forum and I will probably be at the lower end of the scale when it comes to the age I die. My Grandad smoked and drank all his life and only managed to nick a couple of years of pension despite paying large amounts of his income in alcohol and tobacco tax, my Nan however never smoked or drinked and lived until she was 98 with her last 10 years in a care home paid by the state.
So what are we gonna do about state pensions? There are currently under 4 workers per pensioner and with healthier lifestyles and advanced medical treatment it’s going to get worse - I mean, blimey, when you go to visit someone in hospital you see beds upon beds of old people just about hanging in there and when they nearly peg it it’s all hands on deck to revive them.
Absolute bloody bonkers.
Oh, and as for France, well yes, they love a good ding dong but the current uprising may very well have started about a pension increase but it’s now just out and out disorder. France is in a terrible mess and has been for a while.
Similar will happen in U.K. there will be some kind of flashpoint about something or other and then all the Routmasters will be ablaze for a few days.
Quite true. Stuffing street furniture through the windows of shops, restaurants, banks etc. is not a demonstration, it's a bloody riot.
Interestingly when the state pension was first introduced around 1910 the age was set up at 70.
I think it was reduced to 65 after the war when all the state health service got going.
The problem of course is who is going to pay for it as people aren’t dying so quick. People moan about smokers but as a life long smoker and drinker I have paid more tax than most on this bloody forum and I will probably be at the lower end of the scale when it comes to the age I die. My Grandad smoked and drank all his life and only managed to nick a couple of years of pension despite paying large amounts of his income in alcohol and tobacco tax, my Nan however never smoked or drinked and lived until she was 98 with her last 10 years in a care home paid by the state.
So what are we gonna do about state pensions? There are currently under 4 workers per pensioner and with healthier lifestyles and advanced medical treatment it’s going to get worse - I mean, blimey, when you go to visit someone in hospital you see beds upon beds of old people just about hanging in there and when they nearly peg it it’s all hands on deck to revive them.
Absolute bloody bonkers.
Oh, and as for France, well yes, they love a good ding dong but the current uprising may very well have started about a pension increase but it’s now just out and out disorder. France is in a terrible mess and has been for a while.
Similar will happen in U.K. there will be some kind of flashpoint about something or other and then all the Routmasters will be ablaze for a few days.
You think we should just let old people die Lucers?
You think we should just let old people die Lucers?
Didn’t say that.
….It’s a problem though and like so many other problems no one has a answer.
Personally, if I get like that with my skin so thin it rips when I catch it on my catheter tubes, I hope someone will finish me off baby.
Edit - the obvious elephant in the room is that I wouldn't want my daughter in law** to be able to sign my death papers so that she could get my estate.
**I haven't got a daughter in law, hence my words. Any relation to my son in law are fictional or dramatised.
[Post edited 24 Mar 2023 22:15]
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
The UK should be protesting more for the size of the state pension instead of the retirement age. Max state pension in France is €41k pa here in Spain its 31k. The UK under 10k!
….It’s a problem though and like so many other problems no one has a answer.
Personally, if I get like that with my skin so thin it rips when I catch it on my catheter tubes, I hope someone will finish me off baby.
Edit - the obvious elephant in the room is that I wouldn't want my daughter in law** to be able to sign my death papers so that she could get my estate.
**I haven't got a daughter in law, hence my words. Any relation to my son in law are fictional or dramatised.
[Post edited 24 Mar 2023 22:15]
It is an important issue. People are living longer.
If I might be glib for a moment. For governments money is always available. What is lacking is the will to rebalance expenditure in order to focus on the well-being of the citizens.
It’s not really about pension age - most of the ‘protestors’ are disaffected youths in balaclavas. The problem is that so few people in France pay tax, those that do pay quite a lot - and old people aren’t press ganged back to work like in the UK. Pensions are probably 2x - 3x higher than the UK
The UK should be protesting more for the size of the state pension instead of the retirement age. Max state pension in France is €41k pa here in Spain its 31k. The UK under 10k!
The UK should be protesting more for the size of the state pension instead of the retirement age. Max state pension in France is €41k pa here in Spain its 31k. The UK under 10k!
It’s hard to do a proper comparison, but U.K. spends less on State Pension that most European countries whichever measure is used. It also has the highest percentage of pensioners in poverty. So if the money is there for the Germans, Spanish, Dutch etc, why isn’t it available here?
I’ve no doubt that insect JRM would be wholeheartedly behind the Spartan method of when people are too old to contribute, take them out to a nice cold hillside one night and let Mother Nature take its course.
Too much deference to our "betters". It's why we didn't remove the heads of our Monarchy when the French were getting on with it. Same thing as randoms saying 'Boris is one of us'.
Small somewhat pedantic point of order
I think you’ll find the English/Scottish removed the head of their Monarchy about 150 years before the French did
Then decided it wasn’t such a good idea before bringing in a Dutch and then German royalty to take over
I think you’ll find the English/Scottish removed the head of their Monarchy about 150 years before the French did
Then decided it wasn’t such a good idea before bringing in a Dutch and then German royalty to take over
Bl00dy European coming over here, taking our jobs
There was nothing wrong with giving that old swine Charles 1st the haircut he deserved in 1649. The problem was the replacement and that Cromwell took misery to levels only the tories dream about. And when he snuffed it, there was no replacement as his son Richard was rubbish. Constitutional hole = arrival of Charles 2nd, but unlike France the power of the monarch was constrained to not far short of what it is now.
As you point out, flippin foreigners. Where were the Plantagenets when you needed them?
Interestingly when the state pension was first introduced around 1910 the age was set up at 70.
I think it was reduced to 65 after the war when all the state health service got going.
The problem of course is who is going to pay for it as people aren’t dying so quick. People moan about smokers but as a life long smoker and drinker I have paid more tax than most on this bloody forum and I will probably be at the lower end of the scale when it comes to the age I die. My Grandad smoked and drank all his life and only managed to nick a couple of years of pension despite paying large amounts of his income in alcohol and tobacco tax, my Nan however never smoked or drinked and lived until she was 98 with her last 10 years in a care home paid by the state.
So what are we gonna do about state pensions? There are currently under 4 workers per pensioner and with healthier lifestyles and advanced medical treatment it’s going to get worse - I mean, blimey, when you go to visit someone in hospital you see beds upon beds of old people just about hanging in there and when they nearly peg it it’s all hands on deck to revive them.
Absolute bloody bonkers.
Oh, and as for France, well yes, they love a good ding dong but the current uprising may very well have started about a pension increase but it’s now just out and out disorder. France is in a terrible mess and has been for a while.
Similar will happen in U.K. there will be some kind of flashpoint about something or other and then all the Routmasters will be ablaze for a few days.
66 in name only right now though. You can check what 'your' pension age will be and it's 68 for me (and most people now).it changes from 2026. (I'm not sure if the 66 is for anyone reaching that age before 2026 or what the rule is really but mine is 68 :(.
66 in name only right now though. You can check what 'your' pension age will be and it's 68 for me (and most people now).it changes from 2026. (I'm not sure if the 66 is for anyone reaching that age before 2026 or what the rule is really but mine is 68 :(.
66 currently, 67 for me and 68 if you are younger than 46 right now.
I would guess if you are under 46 right now you will have a private pension that your employers have to contribute to - I have only had a paid job for three years of my life and it wasn't always the thing to have a company pension and I never started one when I left the job - I have no private pension.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
Too much deference to our "betters". It's why we didn't remove the heads of our Monarchy when the French were getting on with it. Same thing as randoms saying 'Boris is one of us'.
We cut off our king’s head a long time before they did.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
There was nothing wrong with giving that old swine Charles 1st the haircut he deserved in 1649. The problem was the replacement and that Cromwell took misery to levels only the tories dream about. And when he snuffed it, there was no replacement as his son Richard was rubbish. Constitutional hole = arrival of Charles 2nd, but unlike France the power of the monarch was constrained to not far short of what it is now.
As you point out, flippin foreigners. Where were the Plantagenets when you needed them?
An excellent argument for constitutional monarchy here.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
There was nothing wrong with giving that old swine Charles 1st the haircut he deserved in 1649. The problem was the replacement and that Cromwell took misery to levels only the tories dream about. And when he snuffed it, there was no replacement as his son Richard was rubbish. Constitutional hole = arrival of Charles 2nd, but unlike France the power of the monarch was constrained to not far short of what it is now.
As you point out, flippin foreigners. Where were the Plantagenets when you needed them?
If only the Pendragon dynasty had lasted
Pasties would be our national dish, we'd all drink cider all day and speak like Jethro
"but as a life long smoker and drinker I have paid more tax than most on this bloody forum"
As the other half works as a cardiac technician I get to hear a lot about this, and have had to listen as she explains the flaws in the myth about what smokers pay. Yes the tax is high. but goes nowhere near covering the treatment needed.
Gone are the days when you smoked 60 a day and pegged out before, or shortly after, retirement. Now it is costly treatment, long stays in hospital and the certainty that most will need long term care.
If the government saw a net plus in tax revenue from smoking it would not do so much to discourage it.
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