| Blackpool are following in our footsteps 11:36 - Apr 21 with 2785 views | Hipsterectomy |
Just parted with Mick and now favourite to be manager is Paul Hurst
I’m sure Lambert is already waiting by the phone |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 11:49 - Apr 21 with 2708 views | noggin |
"I’m sure Lambert is already waiting by the phone"
Blackpool chairman: "What qualities do you have that would make you the right candidate for this job?"
Lambert: "I played for some huge clubs."
Blackpool chairman: "Yes yes, Mr Lambert, you've mentioned that 6 times now." [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 11:50]
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 13:28 - Apr 21 with 2513 views | Radlett_blue |
Maybe Hurst's brief spell at Town will simply be seen as unfortunate by some? |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 13:45 - Apr 21 with 2442 views | monty_radio |
"Why Blackpool, in particular Mr Lambert?"
"Well, as my time at Ipswich drew towards its natural conclusion, one day, while on the training ground, I saw far off, halfway twixt earth and sky, a halo of orange fire, burning with such clarity while drifting its pungent message towards me. My assistant dismissed it as merely a natural phenomenon given the earthbound figures that seemed to cluster around its source. But to me it spelt Blackpool -or just maybe it could have been Schwartzpool, or even perhaps, Borussia Blackpool. |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:08 - Apr 21 with 2370 views | MattinLondon |
Being fair to Hurst he could see what was wrong with the club but lacked the subtlety to bring along change effectively. Plus the senior players didn’t help.
If he has learnt from his mistakes, what with more experience, he may well be a success at Blackpool |  | | |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:36 - Apr 21 with 2282 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:08 - Apr 21 by MattinLondon |
Being fair to Hurst he could see what was wrong with the club but lacked the subtlety to bring along change effectively. Plus the senior players didn’t help.
If he has learnt from his mistakes, what with more experience, he may well be a success at Blackpool |
Not only did the senior players got they wish and sacked him they didn't perform for his successor either. And this successor's successor too.
Just a player-power what was the biggest problem apart from Evans. |  | | |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:37 - Apr 21 with 2285 views | Churchman |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 13:28 - Apr 21 by Radlett_blue |
Maybe Hurst's brief spell at Town will simply be seen as unfortunate by some? |
Hurst’s brief spell at Town was certainly seen as unfortunate by me! The bloke was out of his depth and if Alan Lee is right, got the job on the basis of promises that could never be fulfilled.
Then followed a windbag with a video collection. You couldn’t make it up.
Maybe Hurst will do a good job at Blackpool. Maybe it’ll be the perfect fit. He certainly has done alright at Shrewsbury and Grimsby. |  | | |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:41 - Apr 21 with 2271 views | itfcjoe |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:08 - Apr 21 by MattinLondon |
Being fair to Hurst he could see what was wrong with the club but lacked the subtlety to bring along change effectively. Plus the senior players didn’t help.
If he has learnt from his mistakes, what with more experience, he may well be a success at Blackpool |
But we can't be fair to Hurst, because he just signed a load of dross that were never going to be good enough for the Championship.
The biggest part of football management is recruitment, and his was so terrible we were left up sh*t creek without a paddle |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:53 - Apr 21 with 2223 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:41 - Apr 21 by itfcjoe |
But we can't be fair to Hurst, because he just signed a load of dross that were never going to be good enough for the Championship.
The biggest part of football management is recruitment, and his was so terrible we were left up sh*t creek without a paddle |
'The biggest part of football management is recruitment'
Correct and the players need to perform too. The senior players never instigated any effort to fight relegation.
Hurst having done a bad recruitment isn't an excuse for the manner of our relegation and players not having performed.
Millwall game for example. The first one following Hurst's departure. Klug was in the temporary charge. The opening line-up had 6 proper blokes and 2 homegrown players (Dozzell, Downes). Only one starter was a lower leagues' signing (Jackson). So 8 players with whom large percent of our fanbase were happy with. The outcome? We lost 0-3 following a disgusting performance and Millwall fans in their vlogs said we'd been the worst ever Championship side to have visited their place. That 'romantic' squad totally embarrassed the shirt and badge on the pitch.
One of the goals for Millwall......the comedy of errors between Chambers and Bialkowski.......black comedy actually !
So it's not all Hurst's fault. Players and their attitude were the bigger problem. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 14:54]
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:02 - Apr 21 with 2164 views | pointofblue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:53 - Apr 21 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'The biggest part of football management is recruitment'
Correct and the players need to perform too. The senior players never instigated any effort to fight relegation.
Hurst having done a bad recruitment isn't an excuse for the manner of our relegation and players not having performed.
Millwall game for example. The first one following Hurst's departure. Klug was in the temporary charge. The opening line-up had 6 proper blokes and 2 homegrown players (Dozzell, Downes). Only one starter was a lower leagues' signing (Jackson). So 8 players with whom large percent of our fanbase were happy with. The outcome? We lost 0-3 following a disgusting performance and Millwall fans in their vlogs said we'd been the worst ever Championship side to have visited their place. That 'romantic' squad totally embarrassed the shirt and badge on the pitch.
One of the goals for Millwall......the comedy of errors between Chambers and Bialkowski.......black comedy actually !
So it's not all Hurst's fault. Players and their attitude were the bigger problem. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 14:54]
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The issue is we stripped our front line that summer - no McGoldrick, no Waghorn, no Garner. Add to that Webster left, and those who had been good under Mick, such as Chambers, Skuse, Huws, Bishop, Sears, were either well past their peak or horrifically injury prone. And we replaced those we lost with players not good enough for the level. Our current side would absolutely wallop the squad we had our disposal in 18/19, nine times out of ten. | |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:04 - Apr 21 with 2159 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:41 - Apr 21 by itfcjoe |
But we can't be fair to Hurst, because he just signed a load of dross that were never going to be good enough for the Championship.
The biggest part of football management is recruitment, and his was so terrible we were left up sh*t creek without a paddle |
On top of that, his and Deputy Doig's man management was dreadful and alienated many. |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:05 - Apr 21 with 2140 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:02 - Apr 21 by pointofblue |
The issue is we stripped our front line that summer - no McGoldrick, no Waghorn, no Garner. Add to that Webster left, and those who had been good under Mick, such as Chambers, Skuse, Huws, Bishop, Sears, were either well past their peak or horrifically injury prone. And we replaced those we lost with players not good enough for the level. Our current side would absolutely wallop the squad we had our disposal in 18/19, nine times out of ten. |
Yes, the recruitment was terrible but the players didn't help. They just downed the tools.
Our current side is also pissing all over 18/19 team in regards to professionalism and attitude. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 15:07]
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:22 - Apr 21 with 2008 views | itfcjoe |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:53 - Apr 21 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'The biggest part of football management is recruitment'
Correct and the players need to perform too. The senior players never instigated any effort to fight relegation.
Hurst having done a bad recruitment isn't an excuse for the manner of our relegation and players not having performed.
Millwall game for example. The first one following Hurst's departure. Klug was in the temporary charge. The opening line-up had 6 proper blokes and 2 homegrown players (Dozzell, Downes). Only one starter was a lower leagues' signing (Jackson). So 8 players with whom large percent of our fanbase were happy with. The outcome? We lost 0-3 following a disgusting performance and Millwall fans in their vlogs said we'd been the worst ever Championship side to have visited their place. That 'romantic' squad totally embarrassed the shirt and badge on the pitch.
One of the goals for Millwall......the comedy of errors between Chambers and Bialkowski.......black comedy actually !
So it's not all Hurst's fault. Players and their attitude were the bigger problem. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 14:54]
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Whatever your thoughts on the squad, and everyone knows you hate Chambers and Skuse, the fault for relegation lays with the fact that that squad was nowhere near good enough to stay up. It got significantly downgraded and there just wasn't anywhere near the quality.
Hurst and Doig managed to come in and totally p155 off Knudsen and Bialkowski who had just been at a World Cup by telling them that they had to prove themselves to him.
ShÃt management, by a shÃt manager who spent the best part of £6m on Kayden Jackson, Janoi Donacien, Jon Nolan, Toto Nsiala, Ellis Harrison and Gwion Edwards.
Even at the end of the window Marcus Evans was overruling Paul Hurst to sign Matt Pennington on loan ahead of Deji Oshilaja and pushing the deal through for Jon Walters because he realised just how far off it all the signings were but the damage had been done. | |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:23 - Apr 21 with 2010 views | Churchman |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:05 - Apr 21 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Yes, the recruitment was terrible but the players didn't help. They just downed the tools.
Our current side is also pissing all over 18/19 team in regards to professionalism and attitude. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 15:07]
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No the players didn’t help and the shambles carried on all the way to a change of ownership and the Wimbledon and Northampton hidings. A group of players who could do quite well for 45 mins (Portsmouth away), but faded like the 150-1 shot at Aintree. Blown, knackered, gone. Two training sessions? Nah.
By and large the attitude was awful. But what was the common denominator? A shambolic football club with no identity and no interest. Shrinking, decaying literally before everyone’s eyes. Dementor Evans!
A reception with no receptionist, Lee O running around doing all sorts of stuff, filthy old stadium, players like Chambers showing pity on new players by showing them around. A boatload of players - hasbeens, never will bees, loanees, chancers, all sorts. U21s cluttered with rejects, zero chance. It broke my heart to see it.
Yes, the players were all over the shop, but so was the the club. You have to have a structured, stable environment for anything to work, including the team. You need standards, expectations, facilities, expertise in the right areas. Putting it simply, objectives that went a little further than mediocrity and saving on lightbulbs were the perfect recipe for relegation without a whimper and two seasons of collapse to follow.
The decay was from the top down, but as professional footballers with careers to manage, I would certainly question the attitude of some of the players at that time.
Agreed - the current team would wipe the floor with the 18/19 team. And the ones a season or two before and after. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 15:34]
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:00 - Apr 21 with 1904 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:36 - Apr 21 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Not only did the senior players got they wish and sacked him they didn't perform for his successor either. And this successor's successor too.
Just a player-power what was the biggest problem apart from Evans. |
I'm surprised you've never mentioned this before. |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:01 - Apr 21 with 1905 views | Radlett_blue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 14:53 - Apr 21 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'The biggest part of football management is recruitment'
Correct and the players need to perform too. The senior players never instigated any effort to fight relegation.
Hurst having done a bad recruitment isn't an excuse for the manner of our relegation and players not having performed.
Millwall game for example. The first one following Hurst's departure. Klug was in the temporary charge. The opening line-up had 6 proper blokes and 2 homegrown players (Dozzell, Downes). Only one starter was a lower leagues' signing (Jackson). So 8 players with whom large percent of our fanbase were happy with. The outcome? We lost 0-3 following a disgusting performance and Millwall fans in their vlogs said we'd been the worst ever Championship side to have visited their place. That 'romantic' squad totally embarrassed the shirt and badge on the pitch.
One of the goals for Millwall......the comedy of errors between Chambers and Bialkowski.......black comedy actually !
So it's not all Hurst's fault. Players and their attitude were the bigger problem. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 14:54]
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I think by the time of the Millwall game the damamge had been done, partly by Hurst but not helped by some of the senior players not being keen to play for him. Town had become a disorganised rabble & I'm not sure anyone could have turned around that season. While Lambert was a poor appointment again (and a pretty obviously bad one at the time, unlike Hurst about whom many of us initially felt optimistic) I don't think the squad he inherited was going to bounce straight back up. | |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:07 - Apr 21 with 1851 views | gtsb1966 |
Evans and Hurst, makes the skin crawl. Both clueless and both nearly ruined this great football club. |  | | |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:18 - Apr 21 with 1762 views | Vic |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 13:28 - Apr 21 by Radlett_blue |
Maybe Hurst's brief spell at Town will simply be seen as unfortunate by some? |
I would imagine that he actually learnt a lot whilst here. If he's got any sense he'll have tucked away the experience and bring it back when he's interviewed. |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:18 - Apr 21 with 1766 views | itfcjoe |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:23 - Apr 21 by Churchman |
No the players didn’t help and the shambles carried on all the way to a change of ownership and the Wimbledon and Northampton hidings. A group of players who could do quite well for 45 mins (Portsmouth away), but faded like the 150-1 shot at Aintree. Blown, knackered, gone. Two training sessions? Nah.
By and large the attitude was awful. But what was the common denominator? A shambolic football club with no identity and no interest. Shrinking, decaying literally before everyone’s eyes. Dementor Evans!
A reception with no receptionist, Lee O running around doing all sorts of stuff, filthy old stadium, players like Chambers showing pity on new players by showing them around. A boatload of players - hasbeens, never will bees, loanees, chancers, all sorts. U21s cluttered with rejects, zero chance. It broke my heart to see it.
Yes, the players were all over the shop, but so was the the club. You have to have a structured, stable environment for anything to work, including the team. You need standards, expectations, facilities, expertise in the right areas. Putting it simply, objectives that went a little further than mediocrity and saving on lightbulbs were the perfect recipe for relegation without a whimper and two seasons of collapse to follow.
The decay was from the top down, but as professional footballers with careers to manage, I would certainly question the attitude of some of the players at that time.
Agreed - the current team would wipe the floor with the 18/19 team. And the ones a season or two before and after. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 15:34]
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In the whole of the covid lockdown, Paul Lambert spoke to the players twice. The first time was to call Luke Chambers and try to get him to get the squad on board with taking a paycut, and the second time was on a call organised by the physio to try and get things re-engaged ahead of coming back. | |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:27 - Apr 21 with 1703 views | blueasfook |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:07 - Apr 21 by gtsb1966 |
Evans and Hurst, makes the skin crawl. Both clueless and both nearly ruined this great football club. |
Sheepshanks ruined the club. Evans taking over was the result after he bankrupted us, and wanted some other mug to hand the club over to. Evans just had no ambition for the club. |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 17:31 - Apr 21 with 1530 views | MattinLondon |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:27 - Apr 21 by blueasfook |
Sheepshanks ruined the club. Evans taking over was the result after he bankrupted us, and wanted some other mug to hand the club over to. Evans just had no ambition for the club. |
No.
Sheepshanks backed Burley with the players that he wanted. This backfired badly on the club. The transfer market crashed and ITV Digital went bust.
I would say, that at the very beginning, Evans had ambition by giving Jim a very good budget - a budget, which by the standards of the time, should have seen us in the playoffs at the very least.
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 18:58 - Apr 21 with 1409 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:22 - Apr 21 by itfcjoe |
Whatever your thoughts on the squad, and everyone knows you hate Chambers and Skuse, the fault for relegation lays with the fact that that squad was nowhere near good enough to stay up. It got significantly downgraded and there just wasn't anywhere near the quality.
Hurst and Doig managed to come in and totally p155 off Knudsen and Bialkowski who had just been at a World Cup by telling them that they had to prove themselves to him.
ShÃt management, by a shÃt manager who spent the best part of £6m on Kayden Jackson, Janoi Donacien, Jon Nolan, Toto Nsiala, Ellis Harrison and Gwion Edwards.
Even at the end of the window Marcus Evans was overruling Paul Hurst to sign Matt Pennington on loan ahead of Deji Oshilaja and pushing the deal through for Jon Walters because he realised just how far off it all the signings were but the damage had been done. |
Whatever your thoughts on the squad, and everyone knows you were emotionallly attached to that bunch of wasters, the fault for relegation lays with them as much as Hurst or Lambert. The fact that that squad was nowhere near good enough to stay up isn't an excuse for the manner of relegation. There was no effort whatsoever but that doesn't stop you to defend these weasels.
Hurst and Doig totally pissed off Knudsen and Bialkowski......but Hurst and Doig were sacked quickly as senior players wanted them to go.........Players got their wish. New manager came in (Lambert) but senior players still wouldn't perform. But they were fine, eh? What's the excuse for them? It was all Lamberts fault, eh?
Sh1t management, sh1t manager. You mention the players whom he signed and you blame him for this. Hilarious for that to come from you as you and others were extremely happy with Chambers having been rewarded for the relegation. Not only Player of The Season, there was even new 2 years contract for him. All of that for the relegation and its manner ! Moreover you and others were saying and his and other players' experience was going to be vital for us in League One. It was a pure nonsense, the players settled for an easy payday at Ipswich and never showed a real effort to get the club back. But because they were crap you and numbers others will never blame them. The main culprit is who? Simple ! It's Lambert. Never the proper blokes' fault, never the homegrown products' fault too ! It's Lamberts fault.
But you won't admit you were wrong. We know you will never man up to admit what you got wrong. The summer after relegation I remember you waffling that the squad was one the best in League One. That bunch of shirkers who got us down without a fight to become sudden winners in League One???!!! Please !
I also remember you telling us that the squad wasn't worse than the Mowbray's Blackburn team who got out of this league quickly. I told you then that our squad was closer to midtable and sadly I was right. We know you were emotionally attached to that squad but you have to be realistic. Try to put your agendas aside at times and see how things are in reality.
To top it off your anti-Cook agenda as you hated him for dismantlic that team. The group of wasters who had been underperforming for years. | | | |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 19:05 - Apr 21 with 1394 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 15:23 - Apr 21 by Churchman |
No the players didn’t help and the shambles carried on all the way to a change of ownership and the Wimbledon and Northampton hidings. A group of players who could do quite well for 45 mins (Portsmouth away), but faded like the 150-1 shot at Aintree. Blown, knackered, gone. Two training sessions? Nah.
By and large the attitude was awful. But what was the common denominator? A shambolic football club with no identity and no interest. Shrinking, decaying literally before everyone’s eyes. Dementor Evans!
A reception with no receptionist, Lee O running around doing all sorts of stuff, filthy old stadium, players like Chambers showing pity on new players by showing them around. A boatload of players - hasbeens, never will bees, loanees, chancers, all sorts. U21s cluttered with rejects, zero chance. It broke my heart to see it.
Yes, the players were all over the shop, but so was the the club. You have to have a structured, stable environment for anything to work, including the team. You need standards, expectations, facilities, expertise in the right areas. Putting it simply, objectives that went a little further than mediocrity and saving on lightbulbs were the perfect recipe for relegation without a whimper and two seasons of collapse to follow.
The decay was from the top down, but as professional footballers with careers to manage, I would certainly question the attitude of some of the players at that time.
Agreed - the current team would wipe the floor with the 18/19 team. And the ones a season or two before and after. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 15:34]
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' A shambolic football club with no identity and no interest. Shrinking, decaying literally before everyone’s eyes. Dementor Evans! '
The big number of people kept defending Evans for years. Moreover some even thanked him.....yes THANKED him for his reign on the day when the club's sale was announced. That number people kept slating me for 'not understanding the football and the way club is being run' as I was always very open with what I thought of Evans and the way he was destroying the club.
5 points plan......he didn't even know what he was talking about and how to implement these ideas. But some people bought these ideas. Some very gullible people.
He never cared about us, he wasn't bothered. He never demanded a promotion or progress on the pitch. No pressure whatsoever. That resulted in players settling for an easy payday at Ipswich and not performing on the pitch. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 19:06]
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 19:24 - Apr 21 with 1316 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 16:01 - Apr 21 by Radlett_blue |
I think by the time of the Millwall game the damamge had been done, partly by Hurst but not helped by some of the senior players not being keen to play for him. Town had become a disorganised rabble & I'm not sure anyone could have turned around that season. While Lambert was a poor appointment again (and a pretty obviously bad one at the time, unlike Hurst about whom many of us initially felt optimistic) I don't think the squad he inherited was going to bounce straight back up. |
Agree. Lambert had no chance because the players weren't bothered. Even Guardiola or Klopp wouldn't have saved that horrible lazy mob.
Of course the squad Lambert inherited was never going to bounce straight back up. Yet we have had people like itfcjoe and his agendas. Him telling us that squad was one of the best in League One. The bunch of wasters who took us down without a fight to become sudden winners in League One?
Not only the team needed a Demolition Job the club needed a change of ownership. Both things took a place and that's why we finally have a chance to come back. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 19:32]
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 19:32 - Apr 21 with 1277 views | Mullet |
| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 13:28 - Apr 21 by Radlett_blue |
Maybe Hurst's brief spell at Town will simply be seen as unfortunate by some? |
It certainly was for us. |  |
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| Blackpool are following in our footsteps on 21:03 - Apr 21 with 1078 views | lizzibee |
Are they really that desperate? Skip a few and head to Paul Cook I say, he's better than the others | | | |
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