| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna 10:40 - Sep 4 with 5476 views | whymark4lazio0 |
actually does know exactly what to do.
Perhaps we should appreciate all his players more (they do seem to be a great set of characters that always give 100%) and enjoy the journey while we're lucky enough to keep him. |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:44 - Sep 4 with 4069 views | BlueBadger |
To be fair, most of us worked that out well over a year ago.
It's only the edgelords, budgies and bedwetters that haven't. [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 12:42]
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| I think there’s a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:47 - Sep 4 with 4007 views | Miaow |
As they say, he knows exactly what we need. [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 10:53]
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:47 - Sep 4 with 4015 views | SomethingBlue |
Yes, there was a lot of angst around deadline day and it's clear there were one or two other things we'd have liked to do – but Saturday really reinforced what a wonderful bunch we already have. This kind of group only comes around once every decade at very best, in my opinion, so let's enjoy their past successes and seeing how far they can take us going forwards. We'll miss them when we/they eventually do move on. | |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:50 - Sep 4 with 3957 views | Keno |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:47 - Sep 4 by SomethingBlue |
Yes, there was a lot of angst around deadline day and it's clear there were one or two other things we'd have liked to do – but Saturday really reinforced what a wonderful bunch we already have. This kind of group only comes around once every decade at very best, in my opinion, so let's enjoy their past successes and seeing how far they can take us going forwards. We'll miss them when we/they eventually do move on. |
I do wonder how much bringing in new players now could have upset the balance of what we have, like you say this is a 'once in a generation' special group that needs to develop by training and evolution rather than seasonal revolution [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 10:51]
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:54 - Sep 4 with 3913 views | keighleyblue |
No sh1t. |  | | |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:55 - Sep 4 with 3917 views | Swansea_Blue |
It seemed pretty clear within the first few week that he was bringing a step up in professionalism and knew what he was doing. I can't imagine there'll be many people who it's yet to dawn on. |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:55 - Sep 4 with 3899 views | BlueBadger |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:50 - Sep 4 by Keno |
I do wonder how much bringing in new players now could have upset the balance of what we have, like you say this is a 'once in a generation' special group that needs to develop by training and evolution rather than seasonal revolution [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 10:51]
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Marcus Evans, Paul Cook and, to a lesser extent, Paul Hurst have made a significant minority of Town fans a bit weird about transfers. We don't need to be bringing in millions of players every window if we already have a very good side that's very well drilled and understands each other. | |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:59 - Sep 4 with 3864 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:47 - Sep 4 by SomethingBlue |
Yes, there was a lot of angst around deadline day and it's clear there were one or two other things we'd have liked to do – but Saturday really reinforced what a wonderful bunch we already have. This kind of group only comes around once every decade at very best, in my opinion, so let's enjoy their past successes and seeing how far they can take us going forwards. We'll miss them when we/they eventually do move on. |
Personally I would have liked a centre half, loan goalkeeper for cover and another forward option.
We did get another defender in Williams, who needs game time, but we do need an established Championship centre half in the mix, we need to cut out the errors at the back and frankly need some ball playing defenders to match our system and with a little more pace. Our right side whether it has been Donacien or Clarke has been one of our biggest problems too, but both have been played when carrying injuries.
In terms of Dane Scarlett, I am in the camp that had he been a permanent signing I would have been more happy with it, but we're already developing Hutchinson for another club, I am not sure we need t be doing that for two. If he turned out to be a Gio type loan where we was the difference in games, that would be a benefit, but being brutally honest he hardly lit up League One last season for me to believe he's going to be coming here and doing more than Hirst, Ladapo, Jackson or Chaplain who in my opinion are all better forwards than Scarlett right now.
Having said that, this squad is good enough to stay up and reach mid-table in this league. There really can be no complaints with that. Double promotion would be a fairy-tale, and we should absolutely be aiming for it, but being back at this level and not looking too out of place is already a success. |  | | |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:02 - Sep 4 with 3839 views | Stewart27 |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:44 - Sep 4 by BlueBadger |
To be fair, most of us worked that out well over a year ago.
It's only the edgelords, budgies and bedwetters that haven't. [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 12:42]
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Wait until we lose again then.
Actually scratch that. People were wetting the bed following a win on Saturday. | | | |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:07 - Sep 4 with 3804 views | BlueBadger |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:02 - Sep 4 by Stewart27 |
Wait until we lose again then.
Actually scratch that. People were wetting the bed following a win on Saturday. |
Those weren't 'people',they were poorly disguised budgies. | |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:10 - Sep 4 with 3785 views | RonFearonsHair |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:55 - Sep 4 by Swansea_Blue |
It seemed pretty clear within the first few week that he was bringing a step up in professionalism and knew what he was doing. I can't imagine there'll be many people who it's yet to dawn on. |
If I remember rightly he started on a Friday, went to the training ground and immediately identified what needed improving by Monday morning. No second is wasted. |  | | |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:18 - Sep 4 with 3692 views | RadioOrwell |
it's been such a long time since we had a manager who knows exactly what to do, it's not such a surprise that a few of us bedlords and edgewetters lose it from time to time - me included. |  | | |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:21 - Sep 4 with 3661 views | ghostofescobar |
And just as importantly, let’s cut KM and the players some slack when we aren’t winning, and we will have spells when we aren’t winning this season. He and this squad are a little bit special, but KM is still relatively fresh at the managers game and he will make mistakes. And the squad is still largely the same set from L1, so it will be a struggle to keep momentum, especially with the step up in the quality of opposition this year. Unfortunately we do live in a world where anything other than immediate and constant success is deemed a failure by many. I’d deem a mid table finish a success. I think it will be a bit of a roller coaster of a season, so I hope we don’t turn on the players or manager when it isn’t working out. |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:30 - Sep 4 with 3591 views | Illinoisblue |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:59 - Sep 4 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Personally I would have liked a centre half, loan goalkeeper for cover and another forward option.
We did get another defender in Williams, who needs game time, but we do need an established Championship centre half in the mix, we need to cut out the errors at the back and frankly need some ball playing defenders to match our system and with a little more pace. Our right side whether it has been Donacien or Clarke has been one of our biggest problems too, but both have been played when carrying injuries.
In terms of Dane Scarlett, I am in the camp that had he been a permanent signing I would have been more happy with it, but we're already developing Hutchinson for another club, I am not sure we need t be doing that for two. If he turned out to be a Gio type loan where we was the difference in games, that would be a benefit, but being brutally honest he hardly lit up League One last season for me to believe he's going to be coming here and doing more than Hirst, Ladapo, Jackson or Chaplain who in my opinion are all better forwards than Scarlett right now.
Having said that, this squad is good enough to stay up and reach mid-table in this league. There really can be no complaints with that. Double promotion would be a fairy-tale, and we should absolutely be aiming for it, but being back at this level and not looking too out of place is already a success. |
Another goalkeeper??? Why? |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:33 - Sep 4 with 3588 views | CityBlue |
cannot but hope that players keep off forums like this etc else see crap like Ladapo needs to go...
we know de nada |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:44 - Sep 4 with 3545 views | Churchman |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:21 - Sep 4 by ghostofescobar |
And just as importantly, let’s cut KM and the players some slack when we aren’t winning, and we will have spells when we aren’t winning this season. He and this squad are a little bit special, but KM is still relatively fresh at the managers game and he will make mistakes. And the squad is still largely the same set from L1, so it will be a struggle to keep momentum, especially with the step up in the quality of opposition this year. Unfortunately we do live in a world where anything other than immediate and constant success is deemed a failure by many. I’d deem a mid table finish a success. I think it will be a bit of a roller coaster of a season, so I hope we don’t turn on the players or manager when it isn’t working out. |
I agree with you entirely. Priority one is to get enough points on the board to forget about relegation. Then mid-table. After that 6-10 which is where I have always guessed (no evidence but hope) we’d finished. Finally dream time. Top six.
Ok, we are in the honeymoon period of carrying over stunning form (agree with Benjamin Bloom on that) but having seen four of five games and bits of other clubs’ games, I’ve a sneaky feeling we could do top six.
We are a good, exciting team scoring with ease and from different players. Defensively - work to be done. We will improve. I like the look of Taylor and my initial meh thoughts on Hutchinson and Williams was wrong.
The bedwetters and edgelords will have none of that, sadly. No doubt the elephantidiot will be lumbering into view too. He was quiet this weekend, strangely. A couple of inevitable defeats and the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the usual FM23 suspects will be loud and long. Learning from the premature bashing of KM in Jan/Feb? Zero.
Back to positivism, it’s been a dream start. I thought two wins and a draw would have been solid, nine points excellent. To have four wins from five games - brilliant. [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 12:06]
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:55 - Sep 4 with 3474 views | MattinLondon |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:07 - Sep 4 by BlueBadger |
Those weren't 'people',they were poorly disguised budgies. |
Social media comments, no matter how ridiculous, gets amplified by retweets or shares to such an extent that over time some will quote them as gospel. It’s the modern day equivalent of the bloke at the pub mouthing off and then another pub goer sharing such thoughts elsewhere like the chippie or another pub. It means nothing.
The only consensus to how a manager is perceived is how fans react in the stadium - and from day one KM has been trusted to do the job properly. |  | | |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:58 - Sep 4 with 3455 views | farkenhell |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:44 - Sep 4 by Churchman |
I agree with you entirely. Priority one is to get enough points on the board to forget about relegation. Then mid-table. After that 6-10 which is where I have always guessed (no evidence but hope) we’d finished. Finally dream time. Top six.
Ok, we are in the honeymoon period of carrying over stunning form (agree with Benjamin Bloom on that) but having seen four of five games and bits of other clubs’ games, I’ve a sneaky feeling we could do top six.
We are a good, exciting team scoring with ease and from different players. Defensively - work to be done. We will improve. I like the look of Taylor and my initial meh thoughts on Hutchinson and Williams was wrong.
The bedwetters and edgelords will have none of that, sadly. No doubt the elephantidiot will be lumbering into view too. He was quiet this weekend, strangely. A couple of inevitable defeats and the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the usual FM23 suspects will be loud and long. Learning from the premature bashing of KM in Jan/Feb? Zero.
Back to positivism, it’s been a dream start. I thought two wins and a draw would have been solid, nine points excellent. To have four wins from five games - brilliant. [Post edited 4 Sep 2023 12:06]
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:06 - Sep 4 with 3382 views | SE1blue |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:10 - Sep 4 by RonFearonsHair |
If I remember rightly he started on a Friday, went to the training ground and immediately identified what needed improving by Monday morning. No second is wasted. |
Apparently, he was making love by Wednesday. |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:09 - Sep 4 with 3351 views | hoppy |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:10 - Sep 4 by RonFearonsHair |
If I remember rightly he started on a Friday, went to the training ground and immediately identified what needed improving by Monday morning. No second is wasted. |
He was certainly a quicker worker than Craig David in that respect... |  |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:18 - Sep 4 with 3292 views | farkenhell |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 10:59 - Sep 4 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Personally I would have liked a centre half, loan goalkeeper for cover and another forward option.
We did get another defender in Williams, who needs game time, but we do need an established Championship centre half in the mix, we need to cut out the errors at the back and frankly need some ball playing defenders to match our system and with a little more pace. Our right side whether it has been Donacien or Clarke has been one of our biggest problems too, but both have been played when carrying injuries.
In terms of Dane Scarlett, I am in the camp that had he been a permanent signing I would have been more happy with it, but we're already developing Hutchinson for another club, I am not sure we need t be doing that for two. If he turned out to be a Gio type loan where we was the difference in games, that would be a benefit, but being brutally honest he hardly lit up League One last season for me to believe he's going to be coming here and doing more than Hirst, Ladapo, Jackson or Chaplain who in my opinion are all better forwards than Scarlett right now.
Having said that, this squad is good enough to stay up and reach mid-table in this league. There really can be no complaints with that. Double promotion would be a fairy-tale, and we should absolutely be aiming for it, but being back at this level and not looking too out of place is already a success. |
Can I try to put to bed this point about developing loan players for the parent club? The players are with us for the whole season. Yes, of course the coaching staff will be working hard to improve them. But this is for our benefit and to improve our performances and results this season. Beyond that is frankly incidental and irrelevant. People said the same when Hirst joined and look at the impact he had for us last season. Hutchinson and Scarlett may not hit the same heights for us this season, but there are already positive signs with Hutch, after remarkably few games. Unlike with Jewell and Lamberk, the majority of players belong to us (including the spine of the team) and in that context, there is nothing wrong imo with adding a couple of loan players. And, of course, I hope they do improve during the season. For our benefit.
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:18 - Sep 4 with 3289 views | hoppy |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:06 - Sep 4 by SE1blue |
Apparently, he was making love by Wednesday. |
(apologies, I didn't see this prior to adding my reply... obviously on the same wavelength!) | |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:21 - Sep 4 with 3258 views | SE1blue |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:18 - Sep 4 by hoppy |
(apologies, I didn't see this prior to adding my reply... obviously on the same wavelength!) |
Haha. I’m just pleased I wasn’t alone in that nostalgia. | |
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| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:22 - Sep 4 with 3254 views | Ftnfwest |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:33 - Sep 4 by CityBlue |
cannot but hope that players keep off forums like this etc else see crap like Ladapo needs to go...
we know de nada |
Mind you, even that is preferable to talksport on saturday pm, who's reporter at the game kept calling him 'Lapodo' |  | | |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 12:52 - Sep 4 with 3052 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| I think there's a growing realisation that McKenna on 11:30 - Sep 4 by Illinoisblue |
Another goalkeeper??? Why? |
Walton is out injured. Slicker and Hayes wouldn't be ideal to start cold in the Championship. Hladky has done well enough, but what if he was injured or his form dropped? We don't have a ready made Championship keeper in the squad. If we loaned in an experienced Championship goalkeeper for the period Walton is out as cover, I would feel a lot safer. | | | |
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