| So thats interesting about ashton 18:53 - Sep 13 with 4302 views | nodge_blue |
He just said that he was the one that recommended and made the decision that Gamechanger should buy Ipswich.
I thought he was just an appointment after the event. But it seems he was very much inside the tent at a time when he was still the Bristol CEO.
That will no doubt please Bristol fans even more. |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 18:59 - Sep 13 with 4205 views | Swansea_Blue |
Balls, I forgot it was the fans forum on Town TV. Interesting revelation, but not surprising. I find it hard to believe Evans would have made such a good decision on his own! |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:00 - Sep 13 with 4200 views | gainsboroughblue |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 18:59 - Sep 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Balls, I forgot it was the fans forum on Town TV. Interesting revelation, but not surprising. I find it hard to believe Evans would have made such a good decision on his own! |
Me too. Got the cricket on. I'm assuming its on YT and can watch at my leisure later? |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:03 - Sep 13 with 4181 views | nodge_blue |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 18:59 - Sep 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Balls, I forgot it was the fans forum on Town TV. Interesting revelation, but not surprising. I find it hard to believe Evans would have made such a good decision on his own! |
I dont think evans was to do with it. He was infering that Gamechanger had asked him to decide which club they should go after.
I find that amazing considering he was employed by Bristol at the time. Or was he already not with them? | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:05 - Sep 13 with 4142 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:03 - Sep 13 by nodge_blue |
I dont think evans was to do with it. He was infering that Gamechanger had asked him to decide which club they should go after.
I find that amazing considering he was employed by Bristol at the time. Or was he already not with them? |
He was with City still I think. It might not be that unusual. He was obviously connected to them, so only natural they’d ask his advice. I suppose him then moving does raise a few ethical questions though! | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:05 - Sep 13 with 4134 views | SitfcB |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:00 - Sep 13 by gainsboroughblue |
Me too. Got the cricket on. I'm assuming its on YT and can watch at my leisure later? |
On TownTV.
Not sure if they’ll end up putting it on YT as well later. |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:06 - Sep 13 with 4128 views | nodge_blue |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:05 - Sep 13 by Swansea_Blue |
He was with City still I think. It might not be that unusual. He was obviously connected to them, so only natural they’d ask his advice. I suppose him then moving does raise a few ethical questions though! |
He made it sound much more than advice. He described it as his decision. | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:59 - Sep 13 with 3900 views | Illinoisblue |
Same. Didn’t realise that either. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 19:59 - Sep 13 with 3899 views | Illinoisblue |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:02 - Sep 13 with 3876 views | xrayspecs |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:06 - Sep 13 by nodge_blue |
He made it sound much more than advice. He described it as his decision. |
It was his decision to recommend Ipswich to GC. |  | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:25 - Sep 13 with 3738 views | JohnTy |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:02 - Sep 13 by xrayspecs |
It was his decision to recommend Ipswich to GC. |
I think Bristol fans have for some time been well aware of the fact that he was negotiating with Gamechanger whilst still at Bristol. It has appeared on their forum. |  | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:50 - Sep 13 with 3640 views | ArnieM |
It was Frank Yallop who spoke to Brett about Town snd suggested us to them when they were looking for a club in the UK.
I think Ashton is trying to take credit for someone else’s idea here …. |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:55 - Sep 13 with 3593 views | Bobbychase |
Gamechanger looking for a club with potential to be bought at a low ebb, I'd guess, whereas Bristol City are owned by a billionaire who would have wanted top dollar. |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 21:08 - Sep 13 with 3497 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:50 - Sep 13 by ArnieM |
It was Frank Yallop who spoke to Brett about Town snd suggested us to them when they were looking for a club in the UK.
I think Ashton is trying to take credit for someone else’s idea here …. |
It's also possible that a number of people had a number of conversations that led to the final outcome. |  |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 09:44 - Sep 14 with 2742 views | Horsham |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:50 - Sep 13 by ArnieM |
It was Frank Yallop who spoke to Brett about Town snd suggested us to them when they were looking for a club in the UK.
I think Ashton is trying to take credit for someone else’s idea here …. |
Doubt that’s true. You’ve got to ask yourself if you’re GC are you going to consult an an experienced CEO you have already involved in the project or Frank Yallop, ‘soccer’ coach and former full back for Ipswich Town. I think you’re barking up the wrong tree there. [Post edited 14 Sep 2023 9:45]
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 10:46 - Sep 14 with 2586 views | Churchman |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:06 - Sep 13 by nodge_blue |
He made it sound much more than advice. He described it as his decision. |
I thought he was saying he made a strong recommendation. But then we know Frank Yallop did much the same. O’Leary would have known about the club too. I suspect the prospective owners did a lot of research and involving a lot of people.
I am surprised Ashton said what he did in response to what he was most proud of. There were plenty of other things he could have chosen. |  | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 12:42 - Sep 14 with 2454 views | ArnieM |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 09:44 - Sep 14 by Horsham |
Doubt that’s true. You’ve got to ask yourself if you’re GC are you going to consult an an experienced CEO you have already involved in the project or Frank Yallop, ‘soccer’ coach and former full back for Ipswich Town. I think you’re barking up the wrong tree there. [Post edited 14 Sep 2023 9:45]
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https://www.twtd.co.uk/amp/news/43893/yallop-they%E2%80%99re-great-people-we%E2% | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 12:51 - Sep 14 with 2421 views | SomethingBlue |
None of that says that they went for ITFC because of Yallop, lovely though it was that he gave us a glowing reference. | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:04 - Sep 14 with 2375 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 19:06 - Sep 13 by nodge_blue |
He made it sound much more than advice. He described it as his decision. |
It could have been the case that he and Bristol City already had an agreement they would part ways, and he was looking at his next venture. Happens all of the time in business, a relationship ends or doesn't work out, its not usual for someone to be proactive in finding their next project at that level, its what separates the winners from the rest, of course there's always a big risk at that level too, which many people would never take if it were them. |  | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:36 - Sep 14 with 2285 views | ArnieM |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 12:51 - Sep 14 by SomethingBlue |
None of that says that they went for ITFC because of Yallop, lovely though it was that he gave us a glowing reference. |
I think it’s quite clear that Yallop suggested Town to our new owners many months before Ashton had even left Bristol.
“ Yallop worked with the Three Lions, Brett Johnson, Berke Bakay and Mark Detmer, who make up part of the Gamechanger 20 group which took control of the club just over 18 months ago, when head coach and president of soccer operations at Arizona United from 2016 to 2017 during which time the club changed its name to Phoenix Rising.
The former Canada international says he mentioned Ipswich to the trio as an English club for them to consider”.
“I straightaway said I think there’s a sleeping giant that I know about and it’s Ipswich Town.
"And they didn’t really say too much, they maybe looked into it at that point and I think we mentioned it one more time towards the end before I went back to San Jose and went to the Fresno job [general manager], which was a lot closer to home.
"And then down the road, they called me up and said ‘We’re talking to them at the moment’. And I was like, ‘That’s fantastic!’ and then they didn’t say anything until they actually did the deal.
"From my side I said, ‘You won’t get a friendlier, nicer club in this country to buy’. I guess I said something right! I didn’t have to put any money up, so that was good.
"Did I get a finders fee? I didn’t, I keep looking in the post but nothing’s come yet!
I remember an interview Yallop gave where he talked at length about his career in the States and under Phoenix Rising and how Brett had spoken to him re a possible England venture, and how he had suggested his former club Ipswich as a very good prospect.
I’m well aware of the multifaceted approach GC will have taken before finally taking the plunge for Town, as another poster in this thread has already alluded too snd quite rightly so. All I’m saying is Mark Ashton isn’t exactly a shrinking violet in blowing his own trumpet and claiming it was “all his idea”. I’m certainly not looking for any argument from others about it, as the Club is flying atm and long may that continue. [Post edited 14 Sep 2023 13:40]
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:40 - Sep 14 with 2271 views | ElephantintheRoom |
It’s basically Ashton and O’Leary’s franchise, always has been, based on the Bristol City model that Hargreaves was no longer prepared to support. Some US carpetbaggers were brought in to provide someone else’s money - and hey presto ´a consortium of owners’ who don’t actually own the club.
Nothing to worry about - though a quiet look at Tucson and Rhode Island might be of some interest. | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 14:09 - Sep 14 with 2181 views | Churchman |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:40 - Sep 14 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s basically Ashton and O’Leary’s franchise, always has been, based on the Bristol City model that Hargreaves was no longer prepared to support. Some US carpetbaggers were brought in to provide someone else’s money - and hey presto ´a consortium of owners’ who don’t actually own the club.
Nothing to worry about - though a quiet look at Tucson and Rhode Island might be of some interest. |
Anything new to say apart from changing the term debt peddlers of two and a half years ago to carpetbaggers?
No, thought not. Oh well. | | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 14:09 - Sep 14 with 2180 views | Horsham |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:36 - Sep 14 by ArnieM |
I think it’s quite clear that Yallop suggested Town to our new owners many months before Ashton had even left Bristol.
“ Yallop worked with the Three Lions, Brett Johnson, Berke Bakay and Mark Detmer, who make up part of the Gamechanger 20 group which took control of the club just over 18 months ago, when head coach and president of soccer operations at Arizona United from 2016 to 2017 during which time the club changed its name to Phoenix Rising.
The former Canada international says he mentioned Ipswich to the trio as an English club for them to consider”.
“I straightaway said I think there’s a sleeping giant that I know about and it’s Ipswich Town.
"And they didn’t really say too much, they maybe looked into it at that point and I think we mentioned it one more time towards the end before I went back to San Jose and went to the Fresno job [general manager], which was a lot closer to home.
"And then down the road, they called me up and said ‘We’re talking to them at the moment’. And I was like, ‘That’s fantastic!’ and then they didn’t say anything until they actually did the deal.
"From my side I said, ‘You won’t get a friendlier, nicer club in this country to buy’. I guess I said something right! I didn’t have to put any money up, so that was good.
"Did I get a finders fee? I didn’t, I keep looking in the post but nothing’s come yet!
I remember an interview Yallop gave where he talked at length about his career in the States and under Phoenix Rising and how Brett had spoken to him re a possible England venture, and how he had suggested his former club Ipswich as a very good prospect.
I’m well aware of the multifaceted approach GC will have taken before finally taking the plunge for Town, as another poster in this thread has already alluded too snd quite rightly so. All I’m saying is Mark Ashton isn’t exactly a shrinking violet in blowing his own trumpet and claiming it was “all his idea”. I’m certainly not looking for any argument from others about it, as the Club is flying atm and long may that continue. [Post edited 14 Sep 2023 13:40]
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Didn’t he just say his best decision was recommending the investors proceed with Ipswich Town. Ultimately I would be certain his recommendation would carry a lot credibility than that of Yallop. I also think you’re missing the point of what he was saying, I think he was more blowing Ipswich Town’s trumpet than his own. Remember the question was something along the line of ‘what has been your biggest achievement’. He could have easily banged on about himself lots more and was invited to do just that. | | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 17:49 - Sep 14 with 2007 views | SamWhiteUK |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:36 - Sep 14 by ArnieM |
I think it’s quite clear that Yallop suggested Town to our new owners many months before Ashton had even left Bristol.
“ Yallop worked with the Three Lions, Brett Johnson, Berke Bakay and Mark Detmer, who make up part of the Gamechanger 20 group which took control of the club just over 18 months ago, when head coach and president of soccer operations at Arizona United from 2016 to 2017 during which time the club changed its name to Phoenix Rising.
The former Canada international says he mentioned Ipswich to the trio as an English club for them to consider”.
“I straightaway said I think there’s a sleeping giant that I know about and it’s Ipswich Town.
"And they didn’t really say too much, they maybe looked into it at that point and I think we mentioned it one more time towards the end before I went back to San Jose and went to the Fresno job [general manager], which was a lot closer to home.
"And then down the road, they called me up and said ‘We’re talking to them at the moment’. And I was like, ‘That’s fantastic!’ and then they didn’t say anything until they actually did the deal.
"From my side I said, ‘You won’t get a friendlier, nicer club in this country to buy’. I guess I said something right! I didn’t have to put any money up, so that was good.
"Did I get a finders fee? I didn’t, I keep looking in the post but nothing’s come yet!
I remember an interview Yallop gave where he talked at length about his career in the States and under Phoenix Rising and how Brett had spoken to him re a possible England venture, and how he had suggested his former club Ipswich as a very good prospect.
I’m well aware of the multifaceted approach GC will have taken before finally taking the plunge for Town, as another poster in this thread has already alluded too snd quite rightly so. All I’m saying is Mark Ashton isn’t exactly a shrinking violet in blowing his own trumpet and claiming it was “all his idea”. I’m certainly not looking for any argument from others about it, as the Club is flying atm and long may that continue. [Post edited 14 Sep 2023 13:40]
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How do you know it isn't Yallop "trying to take credit"? |  | | |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 20:32 - Sep 14 with 1841 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:40 - Sep 14 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s basically Ashton and O’Leary’s franchise, always has been, based on the Bristol City model that Hargreaves was no longer prepared to support. Some US carpetbaggers were brought in to provide someone else’s money - and hey presto ´a consortium of owners’ who don’t actually own the club.
Nothing to worry about - though a quiet look at Tucson and Rhode Island might be of some interest. |
Genuine question.
Would you prefer to be watching us struggling in League 2 managed by Joey Barton, Lee Johnson or Jamie Redknapp, investing like a non-league club, with the infrastructure failing and not invested in at all and Marcus Evans still in charge? | |
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| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:04 - Sep 15 with 1459 views | sjg |
| So thats interesting about ashton on 13:36 - Sep 14 by ArnieM |
I think it’s quite clear that Yallop suggested Town to our new owners many months before Ashton had even left Bristol.
“ Yallop worked with the Three Lions, Brett Johnson, Berke Bakay and Mark Detmer, who make up part of the Gamechanger 20 group which took control of the club just over 18 months ago, when head coach and president of soccer operations at Arizona United from 2016 to 2017 during which time the club changed its name to Phoenix Rising.
The former Canada international says he mentioned Ipswich to the trio as an English club for them to consider”.
“I straightaway said I think there’s a sleeping giant that I know about and it’s Ipswich Town.
"And they didn’t really say too much, they maybe looked into it at that point and I think we mentioned it one more time towards the end before I went back to San Jose and went to the Fresno job [general manager], which was a lot closer to home.
"And then down the road, they called me up and said ‘We’re talking to them at the moment’. And I was like, ‘That’s fantastic!’ and then they didn’t say anything until they actually did the deal.
"From my side I said, ‘You won’t get a friendlier, nicer club in this country to buy’. I guess I said something right! I didn’t have to put any money up, so that was good.
"Did I get a finders fee? I didn’t, I keep looking in the post but nothing’s come yet!
I remember an interview Yallop gave where he talked at length about his career in the States and under Phoenix Rising and how Brett had spoken to him re a possible England venture, and how he had suggested his former club Ipswich as a very good prospect.
I’m well aware of the multifaceted approach GC will have taken before finally taking the plunge for Town, as another poster in this thread has already alluded too snd quite rightly so. All I’m saying is Mark Ashton isn’t exactly a shrinking violet in blowing his own trumpet and claiming it was “all his idea”. I’m certainly not looking for any argument from others about it, as the Club is flying atm and long may that continue. [Post edited 14 Sep 2023 13:40]
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