| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! 17:48 - Oct 10 with 5615 views | Lord_Lucan |
He's a bloody quick builder. It took Mothers builders 4 months just to build her Granny Flat
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:14 - Oct 10 with 3979 views | Keno |
listening to him it felt longer than 4 months |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:22 - Oct 10 with 3961 views | MK1 |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:14 - Oct 10 by Keno |
listening to him it felt longer than 4 months |
His voice does tend to send me to sleep. Obviously going to be better than the current waste of space, but I hope the PR people can do something with his voice. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:45 - Oct 10 with 3882 views | Keno |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:22 - Oct 10 by MK1 |
His voice does tend to send me to sleep. Obviously going to be better than the current waste of space, but I hope the PR people can do something with his voice. |
it comes to something when the deputy sounds more butch and manly | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 19:45 - Oct 10 with 3792 views | BlueBadger |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:22 - Oct 10 by MK1 |
His voice does tend to send me to sleep. Obviously going to be better than the current waste of space, but I hope the PR people can do something with his voice. |
Yeah, definitely a touch of 'Zippy from Rainbow teaches chartered accountancy' about it. [Post edited 11 Oct 2023 9:28]
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 19:49 - Oct 10 with 3769 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:22 - Oct 10 by MK1 |
His voice does tend to send me to sleep. Obviously going to be better than the current waste of space, but I hope the PR people can do something with his voice. |
Something closer to Maggie should do it. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:08 - Oct 10 with 3722 views | Lord_Lucan |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 19:49 - Oct 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Something closer to Maggie should do it. |
She had voice lessons | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:10 - Oct 10 with 3713 views | NthQldITFC |
This 300,000 new homes a year figure:
Population increase is running at ~400,000 per year, of which ~300,000 net migration and 100,000 natural change (births-deaths).
So why do we need 3 new houses for every 4 new people? If average tenancy was a reasonably luxurious 3 persons, we ought to only be building something like 130,000 new homes, at worst. Are ~170,000 old homes being demolished every year, or are homes disappearing as occasionally used 2nd homes / holiday homes / fkn portfolio investments, while we celebrate 'bulldozing through planning regulations' and burying the country under concrete and chase the idiotic, suicidal dream of perpetual growth?
^ All from ONS figures.
I know I'll cop some flack for this, but I find it really fkn depressing. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:20 - Oct 10 with 3675 views | Plums |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:10 - Oct 10 by NthQldITFC |
This 300,000 new homes a year figure:
Population increase is running at ~400,000 per year, of which ~300,000 net migration and 100,000 natural change (births-deaths).
So why do we need 3 new houses for every 4 new people? If average tenancy was a reasonably luxurious 3 persons, we ought to only be building something like 130,000 new homes, at worst. Are ~170,000 old homes being demolished every year, or are homes disappearing as occasionally used 2nd homes / holiday homes / fkn portfolio investments, while we celebrate 'bulldozing through planning regulations' and burying the country under concrete and chase the idiotic, suicidal dream of perpetual growth?
^ All from ONS figures.
I know I'll cop some flack for this, but I find it really fkn depressing. |
Aren't there lots of people sharing homes because they can't get on the ladder? Young professionals back at home with mum and dad for the same reason. Social housing and B&Bs that is really unfit for habitation.
Obviously, the whole thing is predicated on fuelling the homeowner dream which is up for debate. Did he say whether they were all for sale or is there a significant proportion of social housing?
I have no answers, just trying to understand the numbers. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:26 - Oct 10 with 3650 views | NthQldITFC |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:20 - Oct 10 by Plums |
Aren't there lots of people sharing homes because they can't get on the ladder? Young professionals back at home with mum and dad for the same reason. Social housing and B&Bs that is really unfit for habitation.
Obviously, the whole thing is predicated on fuelling the homeowner dream which is up for debate. Did he say whether they were all for sale or is there a significant proportion of social housing?
I have no answers, just trying to understand the numbers. |
Fair points, fair questions.
I'm not sure if there is any data on existing accommodation anywhere. I suppose it would be difficult to assess suitable tenancy levels. | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:29 - Oct 10 with 3629 views | jaykay |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 18:22 - Oct 10 by MK1 |
His voice does tend to send me to sleep. Obviously going to be better than the current waste of space, but I hope the PR people can do something with his voice. |
thats whats wrong with people today worried about what people sound like dress like. not what they stand for. remember back in the day michael foot was lambasted on the way he dressed etc, then ed miliband was mocked by the way he ate a bacon sarnie. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:49 - Oct 10 with 3592 views | mylittletown |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:29 - Oct 10 by jaykay |
thats whats wrong with people today worried about what people sound like dress like. not what they stand for. remember back in the day michael foot was lambasted on the way he dressed etc, then ed miliband was mocked by the way he ate a bacon sarnie. |
Yep, he can be as boring as he wants so long as he is competent.
We need some decency, some commitment and some clear thinking, much more than we need more slimy bull and would be slick presentation. |  | | |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:52 - Oct 10 with 3589 views | tractordownsouth |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:10 - Oct 10 by NthQldITFC |
This 300,000 new homes a year figure:
Population increase is running at ~400,000 per year, of which ~300,000 net migration and 100,000 natural change (births-deaths).
So why do we need 3 new houses for every 4 new people? If average tenancy was a reasonably luxurious 3 persons, we ought to only be building something like 130,000 new homes, at worst. Are ~170,000 old homes being demolished every year, or are homes disappearing as occasionally used 2nd homes / holiday homes / fkn portfolio investments, while we celebrate 'bulldozing through planning regulations' and burying the country under concrete and chase the idiotic, suicidal dream of perpetual growth?
^ All from ONS figures.
I know I'll cop some flack for this, but I find it really fkn depressing. |
It's an excellent policy. People of my age group have had to put up with the choice of either living with our parents till we're 30 or never owning a home (and therefore never being able to retire) for far too long.
The prospect of having a Prime Minister who actually gives a sh1t about us is long overdue. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 21:16 - Oct 10 with 3529 views | BlueBadger |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:49 - Oct 10 by mylittletown |
Yep, he can be as boring as he wants so long as he is competent.
We need some decency, some commitment and some clear thinking, much more than we need more slimy bull and would be slick presentation. |
It never ceases to amaze me how often people will fall for the political equivalents of Paul Lambert and Roy Keane. [Post edited 10 Oct 2023 21:21]
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 21:22 - Oct 10 with 3519 views | NthQldITFC |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:52 - Oct 10 by tractordownsouth |
It's an excellent policy. People of my age group have had to put up with the choice of either living with our parents till we're 30 or never owning a home (and therefore never being able to retire) for far too long.
The prospect of having a Prime Minister who actually gives a sh1t about us is long overdue. |
Yes. On a personal level I totally understand that, it's the national strategy and the lack of any sign of us facing up to having to slow down or overheat that really gets to me. | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 21:30 - Oct 10 with 3502 views | Swansea_Blue |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:10 - Oct 10 by NthQldITFC |
This 300,000 new homes a year figure:
Population increase is running at ~400,000 per year, of which ~300,000 net migration and 100,000 natural change (births-deaths).
So why do we need 3 new houses for every 4 new people? If average tenancy was a reasonably luxurious 3 persons, we ought to only be building something like 130,000 new homes, at worst. Are ~170,000 old homes being demolished every year, or are homes disappearing as occasionally used 2nd homes / holiday homes / fkn portfolio investments, while we celebrate 'bulldozing through planning regulations' and burying the country under concrete and chase the idiotic, suicidal dream of perpetual growth?
^ All from ONS figures.
I know I'll cop some flack for this, but I find it really fkn depressing. |
So I can increase my buy to let portfolio, obviously.
(Increase it from 0 to 1 that is). |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 21:51 - Oct 10 with 3466 views | Swansea_Blue |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 21:22 - Oct 10 by NthQldITFC |
Yes. On a personal level I totally understand that, it's the national strategy and the lack of any sign of us facing up to having to slow down or overheat that really gets to me. |
We can’t just stop though. It’s not just a personal problem when it affects a couple of whole generations. We need more housing, but what’s lacking is modernisation of the housing stock. We’re still building everything out of bricks and cement when we should be looking to a housing revolution using more sustainable materials and repurposing existing, empty buildings (e.g. of the sort you find in every town centre). Town/city centre redevelopments could also offer the benefits of the 15 minute city idea, so massively cut down transport emissions too. Far more preferable to expanding commuter belt.
Maybe we even need a few more new towns? You can never have too many Milton Keynes!
Trouble is, it’s needs pretty revolutionary and strategic thinking, a political will unaffected by personal bribes and some extra cash injection from somewhere that doesn’t lead to inflated prices. So, in short, we’re fecked. | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 22:18 - Oct 10 with 3406 views | BlueBadger |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:08 - Oct 10 by Lord_Lucan |
She had voice lessons |
Funny how things change Politicians now take have elocution lessons to make themselves sound MORE 'human', she had hers to sound less. | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 23:45 - Oct 10 with 3310 views | redrickstuhaart |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 21:51 - Oct 10 by Swansea_Blue |
We can’t just stop though. It’s not just a personal problem when it affects a couple of whole generations. We need more housing, but what’s lacking is modernisation of the housing stock. We’re still building everything out of bricks and cement when we should be looking to a housing revolution using more sustainable materials and repurposing existing, empty buildings (e.g. of the sort you find in every town centre). Town/city centre redevelopments could also offer the benefits of the 15 minute city idea, so massively cut down transport emissions too. Far more preferable to expanding commuter belt.
Maybe we even need a few more new towns? You can never have too many Milton Keynes!
Trouble is, it’s needs pretty revolutionary and strategic thinking, a political will unaffected by personal bribes and some extra cash injection from somewhere that doesn’t lead to inflated prices. So, in short, we’re fecked. |
We do need more housing, the system is utterly broken.
We do need to rethink the obsession with growth and immigration to deal with ageing population though. Not because immigration is a problem, but because its a ponzi scheme, in a pretty densely populated country. Time to look beyond growth and increasing population to fund our society and to concentrate on things that matter. |  | | |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 05:37 - Oct 11 with 3196 views | MK1 |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 20:29 - Oct 10 by jaykay |
thats whats wrong with people today worried about what people sound like dress like. not what they stand for. remember back in the day michael foot was lambasted on the way he dressed etc, then ed miliband was mocked by the way he ate a bacon sarnie. |
Not that. People can speak and look however they want, his voice just doesn't have any highs or lows. It isn't very inspiring, thats all. | |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 07:52 - Oct 11 with 3074 views | chicoazul |
A truly deranged policy, when there are many thousands of homes with at least 2 unused bedrooms. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 08:04 - Oct 11 with 3047 views | Pinewoodblue |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 05:37 - Oct 11 by MK1 |
Not that. People can speak and look however they want, his voice just doesn't have any highs or lows. It isn't very inspiring, thats all. |
I thought his speech lacked glitter.
He may have spoken for an hour but news programmes had difficulty in putting together 60 seconds of juicy sound bites. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 08:10 - Oct 11 with 3034 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 07:52 - Oct 11 by chicoazul |
A truly deranged policy, when there are many thousands of homes with at least 2 unused bedrooms. |
You think the answer to the housing crisis is for people to live in a stranger's back bedroom?! |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 08:13 - Oct 11 with 3032 views | DJR |
Not only is he quick but to build them on his own and whilst delivering a speech is pretty impressive. [Post edited 11 Oct 2023 8:14]
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 08:15 - Oct 11 with 3018 views | Herbivore |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 07:52 - Oct 11 by chicoazul |
A truly deranged policy, when there are many thousands of homes with at least 2 unused bedrooms. |
Does it still count as a spare bedroom if you're using it as a home office? Asking for a friend. |  |
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| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 08:17 - Oct 11 with 3009 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You have to give it to Starmer, fair play! on 08:15 - Oct 11 by Herbivore |
Does it still count as a spare bedroom if you're using it as a home office? Asking for a friend. |
As long as your friend keeps a homeless person behind their printer, they're ok. [Post edited 11 Oct 2023 8:17]
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