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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? 14:25 - Oct 16 with 7647 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

He has to hit the ground running otherwise the press and social media are going to absolutely slaughter him. I can give them a headline to start: "Kraut Of Order!" (are you allowed to say that anymore? I'm sure it wouldn't bother The Sun anyway).

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:30 - Oct 16 with 3293 viewstextbackup

That you’ve posted it, doesn’t that put you in the same category as The Sun headline writers?

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:32 - Oct 16 with 3272 viewshomer_123

You 'are' aware of the Royal Fams heritage aren't you?

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:37 - Oct 16 with 3246 viewsdavblue

Isn’t that harping back to the 1940’s? And harbouring thoughts of past generations? I don’t see how it matters now tbh or ever did.
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:37 - Oct 16 with 3240 viewsblueasfook

I honestly dont care. Just happy that Carsley didnt get the job permanently.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:40 - Oct 16 with 3240 viewsGarv

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:37 - Oct 16 by blueasfook

I honestly dont care. Just happy that Carsley didnt get the job permanently.


Probably not the right man for the job but it's nice to see we're all just as good as ever at jumping on the first sign of weakness (not accusing you).

All because he said "Hopefully....I'll be back with the U21s"

I suppose he did also lose to Greece at home...but still.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:44 - Oct 16 with 3208 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:30 - Oct 16 by textbackup

That you’ve posted it, doesn’t that put you in the same category as The Sun headline writers?


I'm surprised that's the sort of thing that would bother you.

I was posting it as an example of what I think they'd do, not what I'd personally do.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:45 - Oct 16 with 3195 viewsFrimleyBlue

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:40 - Oct 16 by Garv

Probably not the right man for the job but it's nice to see we're all just as good as ever at jumping on the first sign of weakness (not accusing you).

All because he said "Hopefully....I'll be back with the U21s"

I suppose he did also lose to Greece at home...but still.


Probably more to do with playing one of the toughest defences who'd only conceded 2 goals this calender year.. with no striker.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:45 - Oct 16 with 3195 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:32 - Oct 16 by homer_123

You 'are' aware of the Royal Fams heritage aren't you?


I am. I was more thinking about our footballing rivalries/the dread pens etc. than ancient royalty.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:47 - Oct 16 with 3183 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:37 - Oct 16 by davblue

Isn’t that harping back to the 1940’s? And harbouring thoughts of past generations? I don’t see how it matters now tbh or ever did.


That's in your own head, fella. I wasn't even thinking about the war.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:49 - Oct 16 with 3168 viewsIllinoisblue

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:37 - Oct 16 by blueasfook

I honestly dont care. Just happy that Carsley didnt get the job permanently.


Kinda where I’m at. Ipswich is my England. Not too fussed about any other team beyond us. It’d be nice to see England win a tournament but the hype around the national team has always outweighed what the team actually produces.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:50 - Oct 16 with 3158 viewsHelp

The man is on a hiding to nothing. Damned if he does and damned if he don't.

It's not like he does not know the English media, because he has been at chelski and in England a while so he must have read how they treat the national manager.

The pressure on him from the outset will be immense. Player selection. Formation. Win or bust.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:51 - Oct 16 with 3157 viewsOsborneOneNil

Couldn't care less.
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:52 - Oct 16 with 3154 viewsFtnfwest

at least he'll give them both barrels back. Someone like Potter would have sat and sulked about it, and not achieved anything
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:53 - Oct 16 with 3142 viewshomer_123

In all fairness. The wider question is:

Is he better than the pathway options available to us with a British manager?

Eddie Howe and Graham Potter are the two that spring to mind.

Given the FA and moved away from the pathway approach, he is certainly a better appointment than those two.

The one thing he won't be is a 'Yes' man.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:58 - Oct 16 with 3121 viewsdavblue

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:47 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile

That's in your own head, fella. I wasn't even thinking about the war.


That’s where is all starts from though, whether you were thinking it or not.
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:03 - Oct 16 with 3076 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:51 - Oct 16 by OsborneOneNil

Couldn't care less.


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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:06 - Oct 16 with 3063 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:58 - Oct 16 by davblue

That’s where is all starts from though, whether you were thinking it or not.


In some people, perhaps. I was thinking about the football rivalry. The second world war was more than 80 years ago, way before my time.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:10 - Oct 16 with 3041 viewsGarv

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 14:45 - Oct 16 by FrimleyBlue

Probably more to do with playing one of the toughest defences who'd only conceded 2 goals this calender year.. with no striker.


And yet he got more grief for one off the cuff response in his post match press conference.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:17 - Oct 16 with 2981 viewsFrimleyBlue

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:10 - Oct 16 by Garv

And yet he got more grief for one off the cuff response in his post match press conference.


I don't think he did


I think the remarks however didn't help to explain why he chose that lineup when he wasnt going to be England manager anyway, what was this need for experiment? almost made it sound like he was playing football manager for the night

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:18 - Oct 16 with 2981 viewsmuhrensleftfoot

I'm old school on this. It has to be an Englishman to manage England. I know that there are not too many top English managers about, presumably Eddie Howe happy to stay at Newcastle. Graham Potter did a great job at Brighton. Personally I'd have gone with someone like Michael Carrick. Youngish, doing a reasonable job in the Championship.
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:18 - Oct 16 with 2974 viewsBlueschev

I didn't vote leave just for the Germans to invade our national sport.
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:23 - Oct 16 with 2958 viewshomer_123

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:18 - Oct 16 by muhrensleftfoot

I'm old school on this. It has to be an Englishman to manage England. I know that there are not too many top English managers about, presumably Eddie Howe happy to stay at Newcastle. Graham Potter did a great job at Brighton. Personally I'd have gone with someone like Michael Carrick. Youngish, doing a reasonable job in the Championship.


Here's the thing.

We should have won 1 if not 2 titles under Southgate - we haven't - we have fallen short.

Eddie Howe - he's not a winner, he's the Tottenham of football managers - some nice stuff at times but has never delivered.

Potter - I'd argue he's achieved a fair bit and I like his football but will he get more from this squad than Southgate, enough more so we'd win? No.

Tuchel - the guy wins stuff, at the highest level, nuff said.

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:28 - Oct 16 with 2929 viewsMattinLondon

Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:06 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile

In some people, perhaps. I was thinking about the football rivalry. The second world war was more than 80 years ago, way before my time.


Do the Germans consider England to be a footballing rival? Or is it almost one sided?
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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:29 - Oct 16 with 2926 viewshoppy

Did it feel weird having a Swedish manager, or an Italian one?

Did they sing the National Anthem?

Did it matter if they did or didn't?

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Feels a bit weird having a German in charge of England doesn't it? on 15:30 - Oct 16 with 2923 views_clive_baker_

I think it would be preferable to have an English national in charge of the national team tbh, I would imagine the FA do too given Southgate has done it for the past 8 years. Lets be honest, he wasn't chosen solely on his managerial credentials, and I dare say he wouldn't have got an opportunity in the U21's or senior team had he been German.

Having said that there isn't a lot out there IMO, especially as the FA aren't / weren't looking to buy anyone out of their contract. Potter might've been interesting but his record isn't as good as Tuchel's. Given the lack of English alternatives I'm fine with Tuchel, not ideal but we're not living in an ideal world.
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