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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap 08:55 - Nov 29 with 3559 viewsitfcjoe

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Doesn't say masses, but as we know every big club is watching him

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:07 - Nov 29 with 3449 viewswrightsrightglove

When was the last time there was a real bidding war for one of our players? Can’t even remember there being this much interest in Dyer? Hopefully we can keep hold of him for a while longer but if he keeps going like this there’s going to be interest from every major club in Europe
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:17 - Nov 29 with 3390 viewsPinewoodblue

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:07 - Nov 29 by wrightsrightglove

When was the last time there was a real bidding war for one of our players? Can’t even remember there being this much interest in Dyer? Hopefully we can keep hold of him for a while longer but if he keeps going like this there’s going to be interest from every major club in Europe


KMc isn’t going to hang around if we sell Delap.

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:19 - Nov 29 with 3376 viewshype313

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:07 - Nov 29 by wrightsrightglove

When was the last time there was a real bidding war for one of our players? Can’t even remember there being this much interest in Dyer? Hopefully we can keep hold of him for a while longer but if he keeps going like this there’s going to be interest from every major club in Europe


Think Arsenal were keen on Kieron at the time of Newcastle's bid.

But Delap will have a plethora of clubs looking at him, given his age, profile etc.

If we can keep him and he stays fit and carries on scoring for the rest of the season, which means we stay up, then I think we would all wish him well as he clearly will go to the very top.

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:21 - Nov 29 with 3356 viewswrightsrightglove

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:17 - Nov 29 by Pinewoodblue

KMc isn’t going to hang around if we sell Delap.


I think they’re both inevitable aren’t they? If we stay up then there’s probably every chance that neither are with us next season because of how well they’ve done. The business model is going to be player trading so if we’re going to establish ourselves in the prem we’re going to see a lot of players coming in, doing well and then being sold on. The managers going to have to buy into that as well and that’s why McKenna is our greatest asset, because he can take a £20million player and turn them into a £40/50/60million player. We’ve just got to enjoy the ride.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:28 - Nov 29 with 3297 viewshype313

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:17 - Nov 29 by Pinewoodblue

KMc isn’t going to hang around if we sell Delap.


If we stay up, get £50-60m for Delap then I don't see why McKenna wouldn't stay.

If you look at clubs he would go to I can't see many clubs viable.

Liverpool - Nope with Slot
City - No with Pep staying
Utd - Unless Amorin has a catastrophic run until the end of the season then no.
Arsenal - No
Villa - No
Chelsea - No
Spurs - Maybe, but Ange seems to pull the rabbit out of the hat when needed
WH - Maybe, but if we stay up there is the question then are they a huge stepping stone
Brighton - No
Everton - Maybe, but that job is a managers graveyard
Newcastle - Maybe, but if they get rid of Howe, you get the impression they would want an experienced marquee name (Ancellotti, Conte)

Then you have the likes of Palace, Fulham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Brentford who would all be viewed as a sideway step with no real upside.

Very much Blue Tinted specs there, but equally I'm trying to find a huge step up in club and it's slim pickings

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:36 - Nov 29 with 3239 viewsBellevue_Blue

If we are ever going to progress we have to trade up and therefore the more hype around him the better.

If we go down, we need a bidding war to ensure we get that 50M he's worth. If we stay up, then we can probably hang on for another year and sell him for more.

Either way, that money will allow us to bounce back very quickly or hopefully do the same thing again!
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 10:30 - Nov 29 with 3062 viewsReusersTown

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:28 - Nov 29 by hype313

If we stay up, get £50-60m for Delap then I don't see why McKenna wouldn't stay.

If you look at clubs he would go to I can't see many clubs viable.

Liverpool - Nope with Slot
City - No with Pep staying
Utd - Unless Amorin has a catastrophic run until the end of the season then no.
Arsenal - No
Villa - No
Chelsea - No
Spurs - Maybe, but Ange seems to pull the rabbit out of the hat when needed
WH - Maybe, but if we stay up there is the question then are they a huge stepping stone
Brighton - No
Everton - Maybe, but that job is a managers graveyard
Newcastle - Maybe, but if they get rid of Howe, you get the impression they would want an experienced marquee name (Ancellotti, Conte)

Then you have the likes of Palace, Fulham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Brentford who would all be viewed as a sideway step with no real upside.

Very much Blue Tinted specs there, but equally I'm trying to find a huge step up in club and it's slim pickings


Yep, I'd view Everton and West Ham as a sideways step also considering all factors. With our momentum and history with McKenna. So only really Newcastle & Tottenham.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 10:49 - Nov 29 with 2975 viewsJosebadleg

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:28 - Nov 29 by hype313

If we stay up, get £50-60m for Delap then I don't see why McKenna wouldn't stay.

If you look at clubs he would go to I can't see many clubs viable.

Liverpool - Nope with Slot
City - No with Pep staying
Utd - Unless Amorin has a catastrophic run until the end of the season then no.
Arsenal - No
Villa - No
Chelsea - No
Spurs - Maybe, but Ange seems to pull the rabbit out of the hat when needed
WH - Maybe, but if we stay up there is the question then are they a huge stepping stone
Brighton - No
Everton - Maybe, but that job is a managers graveyard
Newcastle - Maybe, but if they get rid of Howe, you get the impression they would want an experienced marquee name (Ancellotti, Conte)

Then you have the likes of Palace, Fulham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Brentford who would all be viewed as a sideway step with no real upside.

Very much Blue Tinted specs there, but equally I'm trying to find a huge step up in club and it's slim pickings


Villa could be an option if they sell Ollie Watkins

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 11:08 - Nov 29 with 2894 viewshype313

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 10:49 - Nov 29 by Josebadleg

Villa could be an option if they sell Ollie Watkins


I'm talking about where McK goes, not Delap

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 12:50 - Nov 29 with 2651 viewsParisBlue

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:28 - Nov 29 by hype313

If we stay up, get £50-60m for Delap then I don't see why McKenna wouldn't stay.

If you look at clubs he would go to I can't see many clubs viable.

Liverpool - Nope with Slot
City - No with Pep staying
Utd - Unless Amorin has a catastrophic run until the end of the season then no.
Arsenal - No
Villa - No
Chelsea - No
Spurs - Maybe, but Ange seems to pull the rabbit out of the hat when needed
WH - Maybe, but if we stay up there is the question then are they a huge stepping stone
Brighton - No
Everton - Maybe, but that job is a managers graveyard
Newcastle - Maybe, but if they get rid of Howe, you get the impression they would want an experienced marquee name (Ancellotti, Conte)

Then you have the likes of Palace, Fulham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Brentford who would all be viewed as a sideway step with no real upside.

Very much Blue Tinted specs there, but equally I'm trying to find a huge step up in club and it's slim pickings


Or a club in Europe...Germany being the obvious froma cultural perspective
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 12:57 - Nov 29 with 2611 viewsKieran_Knows

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 12:50 - Nov 29 by ParisBlue

Or a club in Europe...Germany being the obvious froma cultural perspective
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Would imagine McKenna would only be tempted by Bayern or Dortmund?

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 13:04 - Nov 29 with 2598 viewsPhilTWTD

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:19 - Nov 29 by hype313

Think Arsenal were keen on Kieron at the time of Newcastle's bid.

But Delap will have a plethora of clubs looking at him, given his age, profile etc.

If we can keep him and he stays fit and carries on scoring for the rest of the season, which means we stay up, then I think we would all wish him well as he clearly will go to the very top.


And Leeds and Juventus. When he heard a bid had been accepted, Kieron thought it was Leeds before being told it was Newcastle.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 14:25 - Nov 29 with 2372 viewsIPSWICHFANITFC

He won't go in January. I don't think any big club are desperately needing a striker and the transfer fee involved will be a hefty one.

Does he go in the summer if we go down? 100%.

Does he go in the summer if we stay up? 50/50. We might be lucky that there's likely to be two other big named strikers that could be available in the summer in Gyokeres and Isak that could attract bigger clubs over Delap, but he will be a name in the hat regardless.

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 15:22 - Nov 29 with 2198 viewsOldFart71

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:21 - Nov 29 by wrightsrightglove

I think they’re both inevitable aren’t they? If we stay up then there’s probably every chance that neither are with us next season because of how well they’ve done. The business model is going to be player trading so if we’re going to establish ourselves in the prem we’re going to see a lot of players coming in, doing well and then being sold on. The managers going to have to buy into that as well and that’s why McKenna is our greatest asset, because he can take a £20million player and turn them into a £40/50/60million player. We’ve just got to enjoy the ride.


I disagree that KM would leave if we stay up. Delap probably whether we stay up or not. Why I say KM would stay is where if we stayed up would he be better off and there won't be any big clubs needing a new manager as most have changed them fairly recently. Many of the rest aren't much bigger or are smaller clubs than Town and if they survive there's every chance of a 40,000 seater stadium and more funds to improve the team.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 15:26 - Nov 29 with 2179 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 15:22 - Nov 29 by OldFart71

I disagree that KM would leave if we stay up. Delap probably whether we stay up or not. Why I say KM would stay is where if we stayed up would he be better off and there won't be any big clubs needing a new manager as most have changed them fairly recently. Many of the rest aren't much bigger or are smaller clubs than Town and if they survive there's every chance of a 40,000 seater stadium and more funds to improve the team.


Agree to a point but the Spurs job is one that could open up, he may well be on their list and he’d almost certainly be interested

Outside of that though tend to agree that he’d probably be well served staying here and pushing us on further than taking one of the other jobs that may be available

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 21:43 - Nov 29 with 1862 viewsOlcol

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 15:26 - Nov 29 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Agree to a point but the Spurs job is one that could open up, he may well be on their list and he’d almost certainly be interested

Outside of that though tend to agree that he’d probably be well served staying here and pushing us on further than taking one of the other jobs that may be available


Our owners are not finished. If we can stay up then every year in the EPL becomes easier with the funding. Our owners are wanting to invest to reach and maintain top 4 and European football. I can't see KMk leaving for any other club until we have got there. I hope and believe we can be as successful as the Sir Bobby years. The Culture at the club is set up for that. At least expect KMk to stay for the opening of the new training facilities. Even when he does leave us I see our Culture remaining and standards improving.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 22:04 - Nov 29 with 1811 viewsITFC_Forever

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:17 - Nov 29 by Pinewoodblue

KMc isn’t going to hang around if we sell Delap.


Whatever happens, I’ll be very surprised if KMc is still ours at the beginning of next season.

Enjoy him while you can.

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 23:11 - Nov 29 with 1707 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:07 - Nov 29 by wrightsrightglove

When was the last time there was a real bidding war for one of our players? Can’t even remember there being this much interest in Dyer? Hopefully we can keep hold of him for a while longer but if he keeps going like this there’s going to be interest from every major club in Europe


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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 23:21 - Nov 29 with 1659 viewsDenny32

If we stay up and a bit clear of final relegation place ..I don't see why mckenna would want to leave..he still has a lot to prove plus if given the backing of the owners..what is wrong with the idea that we could break in to Europe in nxt 3 to five years. Plus we are gearing towards a 40k crowd ...and even if mckenna left for another club..he would want to get rid of so many players with big egos and bring in his own type of player ,who will listen to him.and play in the mckenna style..that could take easily two to 3 years...and considering most big clubs need instant success...that will definitely make mckenna shy away from such clubs ...
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:43 - Nov 30 with 1326 viewsBlueStreak

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 22:04 - Nov 29 by ITFC_Forever

Whatever happens, I’ll be very surprised if KMc is still ours at the beginning of next season.

Enjoy him while you can.


If Spurs came in for him, with the club size, the stadium, budget and his history there, I’d expect him to go. Would be an incredible opportunity for him as well.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 09:48 - Nov 30 with 1288 viewsHighgateBlue

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 23:21 - Nov 29 by Denny32

If we stay up and a bit clear of final relegation place ..I don't see why mckenna would want to leave..he still has a lot to prove plus if given the backing of the owners..what is wrong with the idea that we could break in to Europe in nxt 3 to five years. Plus we are gearing towards a 40k crowd ...and even if mckenna left for another club..he would want to get rid of so many players with big egos and bring in his own type of player ,who will listen to him.and play in the mckenna style..that could take easily two to 3 years...and considering most big clubs need instant success...that will definitely make mckenna shy away from such clubs ...


Yes, if we stay up, we can certainly dare to dream. Look where little old Brighton are now! Second in the table! (albeit having played an extra game, but still...!)

I would never blame McKenna for moving to a bigger club, whether we stay up or not. But he might just be one of those rare characters that would be patient enough to realise that he is young, he has plenty of time, and that the grass is not always greener. I'd rather keep on being McKenna, and become an Ipswich legend to surpass Burley and maybe even rival those other two gods of our club, than turn into Potter and leap at the first big big club to come along and then languish for a few years, sinking into the quicksand of his treasure...
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 10:09 - Nov 30 with 1245 viewsKievthegreat

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 22:04 - Nov 29 by ITFC_Forever

Whatever happens, I’ll be very surprised if KMc is still ours at the beginning of next season.

Enjoy him while you can.


These are the teams I can see McKenna going to (from most to least)

Man Utd - Obvious reasons
Tottenham - Obvious reasons
Aston Villa - Big club and big potential
Newcastle - Big club and big potential
Brighton - They keep picking good managers and they are 5+ years ahead of us
Everton - wildcard, but depending on new ownership, with their new stadium they could have significant potential
Chelsea - obviously massive club, but unstable environment
West Ham - Big club and big potential

Other teams I think are either so stable they aren't likely to be hiring (Liverpool, Arsenal) or are close enough for it to be a sideways step. If McKenna stays a year or two, then I think Brighton, West Ham and maybe Everton (especially if they aren't well run) drop of the list. However no matter what Ashton cooks up, even with an updated 40k ground, we will hit a financial ceiling well below the biggest clubs in the League.
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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 10:10 - Nov 30 with 1244 viewsNthQldITFC

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 23:11 - Nov 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

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David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 10:52 - Nov 30 with 1181 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

David Ornstein's One To Watch - Liam Delap on 21:43 - Nov 29 by Olcol

Our owners are not finished. If we can stay up then every year in the EPL becomes easier with the funding. Our owners are wanting to invest to reach and maintain top 4 and European football. I can't see KMk leaving for any other club until we have got there. I hope and believe we can be as successful as the Sir Bobby years. The Culture at the club is set up for that. At least expect KMk to stay for the opening of the new training facilities. Even when he does leave us I see our Culture remaining and standards improving.


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