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Hitzlsperger has his say 10:09 - Dec 5 with 3991 viewsgtsb1966

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:32 - Dec 5 with 3132 viewsBucklebury_blue

If he believes what he says ('To be clear - if clarity is in fact needed - the rainbow armband's objective is not to promote homosexuality. It is supposed to help fight discrimination.') then there needs to be a reset. I don't know anyone who thinks the rainbow represents anyone but the LGBTQ+ people. If it did why isn't there an H in there for heterosexual or S for straight? Seems to me they want tolerance for everyone except people who don't agree with them.
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:35 - Dec 5 with 3074 viewsJeanManuelThetis

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:32 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

If he believes what he says ('To be clear - if clarity is in fact needed - the rainbow armband's objective is not to promote homosexuality. It is supposed to help fight discrimination.') then there needs to be a reset. I don't know anyone who thinks the rainbow represents anyone but the LGBTQ+ people. If it did why isn't there an H in there for heterosexual or S for straight? Seems to me they want tolerance for everyone except people who don't agree with them.


What do you mean by 'they' ?
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Beat me to it! (n/t) on 10:36 - Dec 5 with 3055 viewsBloots

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:35 - Dec 5 by JeanManuelThetis

What do you mean by 'they' ?



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Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:36 - Dec 5 with 3053 viewsFrimleyBlue

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:32 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

If he believes what he says ('To be clear - if clarity is in fact needed - the rainbow armband's objective is not to promote homosexuality. It is supposed to help fight discrimination.') then there needs to be a reset. I don't know anyone who thinks the rainbow represents anyone but the LGBTQ+ people. If it did why isn't there an H in there for heterosexual or S for straight? Seems to me they want tolerance for everyone except people who don't agree with them.


how have you got that so wrong?

It's not about promoting it, it's about the discrimination against those of the LGBTQ+ community ( BTW I hate using the word community as it puts them in a category so I apologise for this, but not quite sure of better wording to use here to make my point), not sure why you'd need an H or s in there when we're not the ones being discriminated against
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:22 - Dec 5 with 2851 viewsBucklebury_blue

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:36 - Dec 5 by FrimleyBlue

how have you got that so wrong?

It's not about promoting it, it's about the discrimination against those of the LGBTQ+ community ( BTW I hate using the word community as it puts them in a category so I apologise for this, but not quite sure of better wording to use here to make my point), not sure why you'd need an H or s in there when we're not the ones being discriminated against
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Every time a public institution employs/promotes someone because they are from a so-called minority to fill a quota or tick a box, 'we' (your word) are being discriminated against. It's even called positive discrimination.
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:30 - Dec 5 with 2782 viewsBarcaBlue

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:22 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

Every time a public institution employs/promotes someone because they are from a so-called minority to fill a quota or tick a box, 'we' (your word) are being discriminated against. It's even called positive discrimination.


So-called minority? If a minority wasn't a minority it would be called something else.
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 with 2777 viewsBucklebury_blue

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:35 - Dec 5 by JeanManuelThetis

What do you mean by 'they' ?


They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.
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Eh? on 11:47 - Dec 5 with 2670 viewsDyland

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:22 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

Every time a public institution employs/promotes someone because they are from a so-called minority to fill a quota or tick a box, 'we' (your word) are being discriminated against. It's even called positive discrimination.


Heterosexuals aren't discrimnated against though ya big wally.

Except maybe at the odd militant gay club night.* But most straight folk probably don't want to go anyway.

*I'm being facetious before anyonge gets offended.

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lolerama on 11:49 - Dec 5 with 2647 viewsDyland

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.


nftffs

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:49 - Dec 5 with 2636 viewsMattinLondon

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.


Can you please show your working out for your first sentence?
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:57 - Dec 5 with 2586 viewsJeanManuelThetis

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.


I have literally no idea what you're going on about.
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 12:01 - Dec 5 with 2557 viewsBlueBadger

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:22 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

Every time a public institution employs/promotes someone because they are from a so-called minority to fill a quota or tick a box, 'we' (your word) are being discriminated against. It's even called positive discrimination.


Give over you enormous fanny.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 12:02 - Dec 5 with 2556 viewsBlueBadger

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:30 - Dec 5 by BarcaBlue

So-called minority? If a minority wasn't a minority it would be called something else.


Will no-one think of the truly persecuted people here, straight white blokes.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 12:03 - Dec 5 with 2536 viewsBlueBadger

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.


Go home and sober up, lad.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 12:51 - Dec 5 with 2384 viewshomer_123

Hitzlsperger has his say on 12:02 - Dec 5 by BlueBadger

Will no-one think of the truly persecuted people here, straight white blokes.


None left innit

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 13:00 - Dec 5 with 2317 viewsbsw72

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:22 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

Every time a public institution employs/promotes someone because they are from a so-called minority to fill a quota or tick a box, 'we' (your word) are being discriminated against. It's even called positive discrimination.


I'm going out on a limb here, but have you been watching GB News recently?
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 13:35 - Dec 5 with 2175 viewsSwansea_Blue

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:32 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

If he believes what he says ('To be clear - if clarity is in fact needed - the rainbow armband's objective is not to promote homosexuality. It is supposed to help fight discrimination.') then there needs to be a reset. I don't know anyone who thinks the rainbow represents anyone but the LGBTQ+ people. If it did why isn't there an H in there for heterosexual or S for straight? Seems to me they want tolerance for everyone except people who don't agree with them.


It looks like you do indeed need more clarity! He’s talking about campaigning for equality and freedom from discrimination for LGBTQ+ people. Homosexuality is obviously included in that (it can be in the G, B or Q bits I imagine).

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 13:46 - Dec 5 with 2137 viewsSwansea_Blue

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.


You haven’t read the article linked in the OP have you? Otherwise you’d know that’s nonsense that you’re being forced to do anything. Or indeed followed much of the discussion on here about this topic where there’s been quite a lot of considered and neutral discussion of the various elements.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 13:50 - Dec 5 with 2117 viewsSwansea_Blue

I really like Hitzlsperger‘s stance on this btw. A really positive way to look at the progress made. It’s a sensible stance to take regarding Sam and Guehi as well - there’s no point being over critical and you do have to believe they would be supportive of a gay footballer in their dressing room. We’ve seen Sam abstain from celebrating with alcohol despite supporting those colleagues who drink. I doubt this would be any different based on what everyone in the club says about his character.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 13:52 - Dec 5 with 2095 viewsblueasfook

Hitzlsperger has his say on 12:02 - Dec 5 by BlueBadger

Will no-one think of the truly persecuted people here, straight white blokes.


Says a straight (presumably) white bloke.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:15 - Dec 5 with 1947 viewscressi

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:32 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

If he believes what he says ('To be clear - if clarity is in fact needed - the rainbow armband's objective is not to promote homosexuality. It is supposed to help fight discrimination.') then there needs to be a reset. I don't know anyone who thinks the rainbow represents anyone but the LGBTQ+ people. If it did why isn't there an H in there for heterosexual or S for straight? Seems to me they want tolerance for everyone except people who don't agree with them.


Fed up with all of it can't say anything I love things like love thy neighbour etc people need to grow a backbone what I was told when I was young.
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Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:18 - Dec 5 with 1925 viewsMullet

Hitzlsperger has his say on 11:31 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

They = LGBTQ+ people who insist you are either for them by wearing rainbows or against them if you don't and there is no middle ground where people can be neutral. I don't wear rainbows but I want them* to be able to live their lives as they* want without fear and I expect the same respect from them*.
* 'them/they' definition: see first two words of this reply.


When have you been disrespected by the rainbow people?

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:21 - Dec 5 with 1895 viewsvapour_trail

Hitzlsperger has his say on 10:32 - Dec 5 by Bucklebury_blue

If he believes what he says ('To be clear - if clarity is in fact needed - the rainbow armband's objective is not to promote homosexuality. It is supposed to help fight discrimination.') then there needs to be a reset. I don't know anyone who thinks the rainbow represents anyone but the LGBTQ+ people. If it did why isn't there an H in there for heterosexual or S for straight? Seems to me they want tolerance for everyone except people who don't agree with them.


Won’t somebody think of the heterosexuals.

‘They’ and ‘them’ FFS

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:23 - Dec 5 with 1887 viewsJ2BLUE

Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:18 - Dec 5 by Mullet

When have you been disrespected by the rainbow people?


Almost choked on my cheese roll then.

Superb stuff.

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Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:38 - Dec 5 with 1813 viewsNedPlimpton

Hitzlsperger has his say on 14:15 - Dec 5 by cressi

Fed up with all of it can't say anything I love things like love thy neighbour etc people need to grow a backbone what I was told when I was young.


When were you young? Because gay marriage has only been legal since 2014 so we probably don't want things to go back to pre-2014 days
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