| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... 21:47 - Apr 1 with 3409 views | Linners |
...that we didn't make more of a fight of things. Just wondering, maybe we *have* made a fight of it. Southampton - with much more PL experience - have shown it could very much have been worse. |  | | |  |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 with 3292 views | Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |  | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 22:40 - Apr 1 with 3052 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 by Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |
Wait, what? |  | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 22:44 - Apr 1 with 3020 views | pointofblue |
We haven't made a fight of it. Not since the hour mark of the Brighton home game. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 22:52 - Apr 1 with 2965 views | sjg |
Would that be the same Southampton side which we failed to beat twice? | | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 23:36 - Apr 1 with 2803 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 by Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |
You must have been livid when Sarmiento scored the Impossigoal.
I hope you told Conor Chaplin off for running on the pitch in his coat. | | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 00:24 - Apr 2 with 2687 views | SE1blue |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 22:44 - Apr 1 by pointofblue |
We haven't made a fight of it. Not since the hour mark of the Brighton home game. |
I think that’s a little unfair. Villa away, we matched them for so long and with only ten men we took the lead. And Palace away, we only fell a little short.
For me, the performances at home have been so disappointing for too long. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 05:06 - Apr 2 with 2473 views | Benters |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 by Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |
Why not ? |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 05:16 - Apr 2 with 2466 views | textbackup |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 by Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |
Yeah would be awful doing that, and potentially staying up, the thing we’ve come up to do. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 07:08 - Apr 2 with 2211 views | gainsboroughblue |
I actually think the collective efforts along with Leicester and Southampton have drawn even more attention to our season.
Weekly, we our seeing articles about 'worst bottom three ever' etc and we are getting quite a lot of air time as a result.
Had we been bottom with the points tally we have now and Leics and Soton been above us with 20 odd points, we'd have just been allowed to quietly slip away. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 07:13 - Apr 2 with 2172 views | WeirdFishes |
We haven’t made a fight of it, we’re just lucky there is another 2 teams just as embarrassingly bad. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 08:50 - Apr 2 with 1886 views | BloomBlue |
Depends what they mean with 'fight'?
I think the players have given their all, but too many haven't operated at PL level. I still think they have given it a 'fight' in terms of energy.
The problem has been confidence, it slowly drained from the players. Mgmt & players can talk freely about we will learn and everyone is still positive, but they are human. The lack of a home win early in the season, I feel, has been the killer. It became a weight around the players neck.
The Spurs home game summed it all up for me. First 10 mins we overran them, looked like we could easily we win it 2 or 3 nil. But Spurs scored, and suddenly that lack of confidence hit. Player looked like they were trying to run through quicksand, instead of floating, one touch passes replaced with players standing around with the ball unsure which direction to go.
Look at Wolves last night, happy to try a short pass or long pass, full of confidence.
I believe we will come back stronger, but we need a good end to the season, simply to give some confidence for the start of next season. |  | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 09:34 - Apr 2 with 1756 views | LankHenners |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 07:08 - Apr 2 by gainsboroughblue |
I actually think the collective efforts along with Leicester and Southampton have drawn even more attention to our season.
Weekly, we our seeing articles about 'worst bottom three ever' etc and we are getting quite a lot of air time as a result.
Had we been bottom with the points tally we have now and Leics and Soton been above us with 20 odd points, we'd have just been allowed to quietly slip away. |
Yeah I don't usually get too bothered by whatever mainstream outlets are saying about us but it's been a bit annoying that we keep getting lumped in with the other two as 'pathetic', 'worst bottom 3 ever' etc. The latter comment is statistically true but there's no attempt to explore any deeper context and we just get lazy cliches thrown at us.
I guess the alternative is them admitting that the glorious Premier League product is a total sham that's eaten itself and it's now nearly impossible for promoted clubs (especially those who have been out of the league for so long) to be competitive enough to scrape enough points for survival. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 10:38 - Apr 2 with 1613 views | CrayonKing |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 08:50 - Apr 2 by BloomBlue |
Depends what they mean with 'fight'?
I think the players have given their all, but too many haven't operated at PL level. I still think they have given it a 'fight' in terms of energy.
The problem has been confidence, it slowly drained from the players. Mgmt & players can talk freely about we will learn and everyone is still positive, but they are human. The lack of a home win early in the season, I feel, has been the killer. It became a weight around the players neck.
The Spurs home game summed it all up for me. First 10 mins we overran them, looked like we could easily we win it 2 or 3 nil. But Spurs scored, and suddenly that lack of confidence hit. Player looked like they were trying to run through quicksand, instead of floating, one touch passes replaced with players standing around with the ball unsure which direction to go.
Look at Wolves last night, happy to try a short pass or long pass, full of confidence.
I believe we will come back stronger, but we need a good end to the season, simply to give some confidence for the start of next season. |
The Spurs game summed it up for me too, but in a different way. We started well, had a bit of pressure, but were playing a system that left Ben Godfrey isolated 1 v 1 with Son every time we lost the ball high up the pitch. Spurs just had to hang in there knowing that at some point that match-up would pay dividends. |  | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 11:41 - Apr 2 with 1479 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
I think we've had a bit of a scrap and I don't see us down tooling at all. Ultimately, we haven't had the quality to stay up and fell on the wrong side of the fine margins. Lots we've done well performance wise in my opinion, lots we will have learnt from and lots we can improve on. It's a results business and we have fallen short.
Without Delap and his goals, I don't think our points tally would be what it is now, which indicates the attackers we have just haven't hit the ground running in the PL. That said, if they piece it together next season and regain confidence, then it's something to build on.
I think what concerns me more is the amount of money we've spent in comparison to Leicester and there isn't really anything to split the two of us in the league. [Post edited 2 Apr 11:42]
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 12:00 - Apr 2 with 1411 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 11:41 - Apr 2 by IPSWICHFANITFC |
I think we've had a bit of a scrap and I don't see us down tooling at all. Ultimately, we haven't had the quality to stay up and fell on the wrong side of the fine margins. Lots we've done well performance wise in my opinion, lots we will have learnt from and lots we can improve on. It's a results business and we have fallen short.
Without Delap and his goals, I don't think our points tally would be what it is now, which indicates the attackers we have just haven't hit the ground running in the PL. That said, if they piece it together next season and regain confidence, then it's something to build on.
I think what concerns me more is the amount of money we've spent in comparison to Leicester and there isn't really anything to split the two of us in the league. [Post edited 2 Apr 11:42]
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The margins are getting wider.
We will find out tonight, and at weekend, if the current squad bleeds blue. Playing for pride really, with only one far fetched set of circumstances that sees us staying up.
Requires us to finish above Leicester(not guaranteed) and Manchester City to be knocked with a very high points deduction. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 12:25 - Apr 2 with 1338 views | Radlett_blue |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 00:24 - Apr 2 by SE1blue |
I think that’s a little unfair. Villa away, we matched them for so long and with only ten men we took the lead. And Palace away, we only fell a little short.
For me, the performances at home have been so disappointing for too long. |
Disagree. We have rarely been hammered, but we've consistently been coming up a little short & that's because the squad isn't good enough, just like Southampton & Leicester. I hoped we'd maybe get the hang of it as time went on, but we've actually become less effective. A respectable if defensive performance at Arsenal, a win over Chelsea & an unlucky draw at Fulham had me thinking we could stay up, but we haven't looked remotely like winning a league game since & picked up a solitary draw. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 12:39 - Apr 2 with 1276 views | BlueOura |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 by Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |
You don't want us to sign better players and improve the squad if they are non British?
How very 1990's. |  | | |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 12:47 - Apr 2 with 1246 views | Herbivore |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 00:24 - Apr 2 by SE1blue |
I think that’s a little unfair. Villa away, we matched them for so long and with only ten men we took the lead. And Palace away, we only fell a little short.
For me, the performances at home have been so disappointing for too long. |
It's all been a bit groundhog day at home since the Chelsea game and a long awaited first win. Generally start games well enough, have some chances, but concede the first time our goal is meaningfully threatened. Try to get back in the game (with varying degrees of success) but invariably concede again despite not really coming under any sustained pressure. Rinse and repeat.
There's been a few sliding doors moments for sure that could have made a difference not just to our points total but to the confidence of the squad. Clarke away at Fulham is a very obvious one, that goes in and we've won back to back games we were expected to lose. Instead we end up drawing despite a very good away performance. That was gutting. I also think Brighton at home, Pedro not getting sent off for a "challenge" that'd be a straight red card in rugby, was another key moment. We'd matched them up to then, started the second half well, then Walton conceded a soft one moments later and they comfortably sh!t house their way through the final half an hour. Think we'd have had a good chance of winning that against ten men and it'd have given us a bit of momentum at a key time.
That said, we are where we are and we deserve to be bottom 3. The gap is so big that we needed this season to be perfect and it hasn't been, which includes us having had one of the worst injury records in the league and missing both our main right wing options for most of the season. It's a shame we've not stayed in the fight or done a bit better but the cards have been stacked against us and we've also not done enough to help ourselves at times. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 13:30 - Apr 2 with 1107 views | Steve_M |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 12:47 - Apr 2 by Herbivore |
It's all been a bit groundhog day at home since the Chelsea game and a long awaited first win. Generally start games well enough, have some chances, but concede the first time our goal is meaningfully threatened. Try to get back in the game (with varying degrees of success) but invariably concede again despite not really coming under any sustained pressure. Rinse and repeat.
There's been a few sliding doors moments for sure that could have made a difference not just to our points total but to the confidence of the squad. Clarke away at Fulham is a very obvious one, that goes in and we've won back to back games we were expected to lose. Instead we end up drawing despite a very good away performance. That was gutting. I also think Brighton at home, Pedro not getting sent off for a "challenge" that'd be a straight red card in rugby, was another key moment. We'd matched them up to then, started the second half well, then Walton conceded a soft one moments later and they comfortably sh!t house their way through the final half an hour. Think we'd have had a good chance of winning that against ten men and it'd have given us a bit of momentum at a key time.
That said, we are where we are and we deserve to be bottom 3. The gap is so big that we needed this season to be perfect and it hasn't been, which includes us having had one of the worst injury records in the league and missing both our main right wing options for most of the season. It's a shame we've not stayed in the fight or done a bit better but the cards have been stacked against us and we've also not done enough to help ourselves at times. |
Yes, we were a bit unfortunate in those two and then had two particularly difficult matches.
It's Southampton at home and the second half at Old Trafford where we let ourselves down by not being smart enough. Even in the former, had Broadhead not missed a simple chance to make it 2-1 at half-time, that would probably have been enough. |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 13:32 - Apr 2 with 1092 views | blueasfook |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 21:53 - Apr 1 by Ftnfwest |
Fair play to them they deserve to stay up and go on to achieve whatever they’re going to achieve but the Portugal, Spain and odd Brazilian all star approach isn’t something I’d want town to do. |
I'm guessing you got something against Latino types?
Bit too dark haired for you? |  |
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| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 18:05 - Apr 2 with 807 views | ITFCSG |
| Someone on the Wolves game thread said they were disappointed... on 13:32 - Apr 2 by blueasfook |
I'm guessing you got something against Latino types?
Bit too dark haired for you? |
He's just echoing McKenna's preferred type of player - British born and bred, raised in the domestic system and a native English speaker. Nothin' wrong. | | | |
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