| I’ve turned the c^*+ off 19:16 - Oct 31 with 18540 views | vapour_trail |
If someone could let me know if he gets any scrutiny from the press as to why he ignored the advice, didn’t do this over half term for two weeks, and his culpability for the human and economic damage that ensues, I’d be most grateful. |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:29 - Oct 31 with 4473 views | DebsyAngel |
I never even tuned in. Feel depressed enough as it is and it will all over the news now 40 times over under different headlines. I am not really clear on my Dad bringing some stuff to our house and just leaving it on the doorstep though - is this still allowed?? |  | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:30 - Oct 31 with 4456 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:29 - Oct 31 by DebsyAngel |
I never even tuned in. Feel depressed enough as it is and it will all over the news now 40 times over under different headlines. I am not really clear on my Dad bringing some stuff to our house and just leaving it on the doorstep though - is this still allowed?? |
On the door step. |  | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:32 - Oct 31 with 4439 views | Lamp |
Every journalist was seemingly trying to find an even more inane way to ask the same question whilst our wonderful PM attempted to set a new record for using the word alas. |  | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:36 - Oct 31 with 4411 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
For once, Strictly Come Dancing seems appealing. |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:39 - Oct 31 with 4383 views | wkj |
The thing is, is this really lockdown? He seemed very confused and didnt say a whole lot that matched the severity of the data. I only see this slowing the curve and not driving it down |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:43 - Oct 31 with 4365 views | airliner |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:39 - Oct 31 by wkj |
The thing is, is this really lockdown? He seemed very confused and didnt say a whole lot that matched the severity of the data. I only see this slowing the curve and not driving it down |
This just puts the whole economy in peril, it’s a complete overreaction to flawed data |  | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:44 - Oct 31 with 4346 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:29 - Oct 31 by DebsyAngel |
I never even tuned in. Feel depressed enough as it is and it will all over the news now 40 times over under different headlines. I am not really clear on my Dad bringing some stuff to our house and just leaving it on the doorstep though - is this still allowed?? |
You need to be more 'Dominic' Debsy. |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:52 - Oct 31 with 4309 views | wkj |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:43 - Oct 31 by airliner |
This just puts the whole economy in peril, it’s a complete overreaction to flawed data |
That's alright then, whew. | |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:56 - Oct 31 with 4292 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
He said it is the balance between the economy and health and he regrets nothing.
Chris Witty said if the lockdown does not work now, the NHS will be in an impossible position in December. Doctors will be choosing who receives treatment and who dies without it (non-Covid as well as Covid). He was asked would an earlier lockdown have worked better. He said the science says the later it came inevitably the more deaths but it was a political decision.
The scientists said measures will need to be in place until the spring but it should get better in the spring. |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:59 - Oct 31 with 4274 views | jas0999 |
Although I agree, it could be worse ...
Corbyn. | | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:05 - Oct 31 with 4248 views | bournemouthblue |
There was no Q&A unless it continued on the news channel?
Saved by Strictly by the looks of it? |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:07 - Oct 31 with 4235 views | vapour_trail |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:56 - Oct 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
He said it is the balance between the economy and health and he regrets nothing.
Chris Witty said if the lockdown does not work now, the NHS will be in an impossible position in December. Doctors will be choosing who receives treatment and who dies without it (non-Covid as well as Covid). He was asked would an earlier lockdown have worked better. He said the science says the later it came inevitably the more deaths but it was a political decision.
The scientists said measures will need to be in place until the spring but it should get better in the spring. |
And he’s made the wrong call and negatively impacted both health and the economy, against the advice of his scientists. The c^*+. | |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:12 - Oct 31 with 4206 views | StokieBlue |
He's an absolute tool.
However I believe the latest SAGE assessments say that even a "firebreak" over half-term wouldn't have been enough. The UK, along with the rest of Europe are way above the "reasonable worst-case scenarios" which was what the firebreak was modelled on.
So absolutely right to criticise him for not doing it but worth noting it probably wouldn't have been enough anyway.
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:13 - Oct 31 with 4202 views | Johnny_Boy |
Lock down here in Germany starting Monday. So a fairly interesting time for Boris to run with an almost carbon copy.
In Germany, the whole of November sees pubs, bars, restaurants, cinemas, theatres and gyms closing. (takeaways allowed to remain open - delivery only)
Supermarkets, Retail shops & schools will remain open.
We’ve already had a ban on alcohol sales after 11pm - which also saw all the above businesses closing at 11pm. |  | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:20 - Oct 31 with 4146 views | bluelagos |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:05 - Oct 31 by bournemouthblue |
There was no Q&A unless it continued on the news channel?
Saved by Strictly by the looks of it? |
There was a Q&A. Listened to it on R5live.
Basically every journo asked him why ignored the Scientific advice weeks ago and whether that will cause additional deaths.
He replied "Spluff, blurr, brur, brur, brur". He then said there reasons to be optimistic. |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:35 - Oct 31 with 4073 views | Keaneish |
“Here’s a bunch of scary graphs with no context. Look, they’re really scary and if you don’t believe they’re scary, you should, they’re showing a big impact to mortality (we think). So, as a precaution, here’s some rules (which don’t make a lot of sense in the context of these very loose graphs) we’re going to impose on you and guilt trip you into abiding by”.
This is pretty much what happened. |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:38 - Oct 31 with 4063 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:35 - Oct 31 by Keaneish |
“Here’s a bunch of scary graphs with no context. Look, they’re really scary and if you don’t believe they’re scary, you should, they’re showing a big impact to mortality (we think). So, as a precaution, here’s some rules (which don’t make a lot of sense in the context of these very loose graphs) we’re going to impose on you and guilt trip you into abiding by”.
This is pretty much what happened. |
"no context"? Please explain. I get that they will be difficult to follow for those who are scientifically illiterate but for those who understand them they seemed pretty clear. | |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:40 - Oct 31 with 4043 views | Bluesquid |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:35 - Oct 31 by Keaneish |
“Here’s a bunch of scary graphs with no context. Look, they’re really scary and if you don’t believe they’re scary, you should, they’re showing a big impact to mortality (we think). So, as a precaution, here’s some rules (which don’t make a lot of sense in the context of these very loose graphs) we’re going to impose on you and guilt trip you into abiding by”.
This is pretty much what happened. |
6:45pm Lies
6:46pm More Lies
6:47pm Total Horse Sh*t
6:50pm A fake chart
6:55pm Unimaginable lies
7:00pm Lots of fake data and propaganda
7:05pm avoiding all questions | | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:48 - Oct 31 with 4017 views | Bluesquid |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:35 - Oct 31 by Keaneish |
“Here’s a bunch of scary graphs with no context. Look, they’re really scary and if you don’t believe they’re scary, you should, they’re showing a big impact to mortality (we think). So, as a precaution, here’s some rules (which don’t make a lot of sense in the context of these very loose graphs) we’re going to impose on you and guilt trip you into abiding by”.
This is pretty much what happened. |
Basically...
"COULD. IF. MIGHT. POTENTIALLY. PROJECTED CONSENSUS VIEW. MODELS. IF NOTHING IS DONE. PREDICTION FOR DEATHS. THOUGHT TO BE. WOULD BE. NOT A PRECISE ESTIMATE. SCENARIOS" | | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:50 - Oct 31 with 4023 views | giant_stow |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:40 - Oct 31 by Bluesquid |
6:45pm Lies
6:46pm More Lies
6:47pm Total Horse Sh*t
6:50pm A fake chart
6:55pm Unimaginable lies
7:00pm Lots of fake data and propaganda
7:05pm avoiding all questions |
Ok slyou're clearly not convinced (!) so what do you think the real state of play is with public health, the virus and any risks large or small? |  |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:51 - Oct 31 with 4014 views | DebsyAngel |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 19:44 - Oct 31 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You need to be more 'Dominic' Debsy. |
Makes me feel like it, but I won't! | | | |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:53 - Oct 31 with 3996 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:40 - Oct 31 by Bluesquid |
6:45pm Lies
6:46pm More Lies
6:47pm Total Horse Sh*t
6:50pm A fake chart
6:55pm Unimaginable lies
7:00pm Lots of fake data and propaganda
7:05pm avoiding all questions |
Speaking of the scientifically illiterate. | |
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:54 - Oct 31 with 3998 views | StokieBlue |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:35 - Oct 31 by Keaneish |
“Here’s a bunch of scary graphs with no context. Look, they’re really scary and if you don’t believe they’re scary, you should, they’re showing a big impact to mortality (we think). So, as a precaution, here’s some rules (which don’t make a lot of sense in the context of these very loose graphs) we’re going to impose on you and guilt trip you into abiding by”.
This is pretty much what happened. |
What a load of rubbish.
The trend is absolutely clear. Lets hope it doesn't affect you or anyone you love.
SB [Post edited 31 Oct 2020 20:56]
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:55 - Oct 31 with 3996 views | StokieBlue |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:40 - Oct 31 by Bluesquid |
6:45pm Lies
6:46pm More Lies
6:47pm Total Horse Sh*t
6:50pm A fake chart
6:55pm Unimaginable lies
7:00pm Lots of fake data and propaganda
7:05pm avoiding all questions |
You're a disgrace.
Why you're still tolerated on here I have no idea. All you do is attempt to undermine and sow doubt to further whatever weird agenda you have.
Why don't you give everyone a break and find somewhere else to post your rubbish before anyone on here takes you seriously.
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| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:59 - Oct 31 with 3959 views | Keaneish |
| I’ve turned the c^*+ off on 20:38 - Oct 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"no context"? Please explain. I get that they will be difficult to follow for those who are scientifically illiterate but for those who understand them they seemed pretty clear. |
Let me elaborate...
The data doesn’t show levels of testing between August compared to October so doesn’t show whether the disease is really rising or whether tests are just more abundant. There needs to be comparative data sets.
It doesn’t show whether the strain has weakened or not in that time as there’s no data on the severity of the cases - herd mentality was meant to achieve exactly this ie: increasing anti-bodies naturally among the mass to weaken the strain’s effectiveness.
There’s no data or projections for who may have had it and not diagnosed or reported it across the periods presented.
In short, we’re being presented data as fact without any ability to question it. Until then, it’s not science as you incorrectly state, it’s statistics and empirical at that. | |
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