| Our local Primary School 09:35 - Jan 11 with 2263 views | homer_123 |
is currently 60% full.
Yep, 60%. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:37 - Jan 11 with 1994 views | StokieBlue |
This is the governments fault.
They need to specify exactly what a key worker is and they need to do it today.
The home schooling has improved dramatically though, it's actually very impressive now.
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| Our local Primary School on 09:37 - Jan 11 with 1990 views | hype313 |
I walked passed one last week at 3.30 and it looked like any normal day, last year they shut that particular school due to no attendees. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:38 - Jan 11 with 1974 views | Swansea_Blue |
There were some interesting stats shown on the BBC recently showing how much more full schools are now compared to the first wave lockdown. It was very stark. Quite a few over 50% whereas in the first wave virtually all schools had less than 10% attendance.
The spread here in early december seemed (anecdotally) to be driven by school transmissions. There' a lesson to be learnt there if anyone in Westminster can be bothered to look. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:40 - Jan 11 with 1962 views | homer_123 |
| Our local Primary School on 09:37 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
This is the governments fault.
They need to specify exactly what a key worker is and they need to do it today.
The home schooling has improved dramatically though, it's actually very impressive now.
SB |
Yep - have to say said Primary school in questions provision for my two has been great and we've been able to email and Zoom teachers when needed.
No complaints there. | |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:41 - Jan 11 with 1956 views | homer_123 |
| Our local Primary School on 09:38 - Jan 11 by Swansea_Blue |
There were some interesting stats shown on the BBC recently showing how much more full schools are now compared to the first wave lockdown. It was very stark. Quite a few over 50% whereas in the first wave virtually all schools had less than 10% attendance.
The spread here in early december seemed (anecdotally) to be driven by school transmissions. There' a lesson to be learnt there if anyone in Westminster can be bothered to look. |
'There' a lesson to be learnt there if anyone in Westminster can be bothered to look.'
Spot on but we both know that won't happen! | |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:43 - Jan 11 with 1937 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Our local Primary School on 09:38 - Jan 11 by Swansea_Blue |
There were some interesting stats shown on the BBC recently showing how much more full schools are now compared to the first wave lockdown. It was very stark. Quite a few over 50% whereas in the first wave virtually all schools had less than 10% attendance.
The spread here in early december seemed (anecdotally) to be driven by school transmissions. There' a lesson to be learnt there if anyone in Westminster can be bothered to look. |
Who do we blame now Cummings has gone! |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:44 - Jan 11 with 1938 views | bluelagos |
It that based on a full taken register or a look around the playground at drop off time?
(Not having a dig btw - I know it seems to be an ongoing problem) |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:47 - Jan 11 with 1925 views | homer_123 |
| Our local Primary School on 09:44 - Jan 11 by bluelagos |
It that based on a full taken register or a look around the playground at drop off time?
(Not having a dig btw - I know it seems to be an ongoing problem) |
We've got two kids there and therefore know parents and teachers - so we know who's got kids in and who hasn't for 2 of the years there and then a good idea through chatting and friends of friends who have kids go to that school on the rest.
Not taken as a dig BTW. | |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:52 - Jan 11 with 1897 views | Fixed_It |
| Our local Primary School on 09:47 - Jan 11 by homer_123 |
We've got two kids there and therefore know parents and teachers - so we know who's got kids in and who hasn't for 2 of the years there and then a good idea through chatting and friends of friends who have kids go to that school on the rest.
Not taken as a dig BTW. |
Not a very scientic way of coming up with a figure of 60% unless you have been informed by the staff. However, there is an issue with schools having to cater for more children than they really should if we are to stop the spread of the virus. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:52 - Jan 11 with 1895 views | hoppy |
That is crazy. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:55 - Jan 11 with 1883 views | bluelagos |
| Our local Primary School on 09:47 - Jan 11 by homer_123 |
We've got two kids there and therefore know parents and teachers - so we know who's got kids in and who hasn't for 2 of the years there and then a good idea through chatting and friends of friends who have kids go to that school on the rest.
Not taken as a dig BTW. |
Cheers.
I know the 4 teachers I checked with last week all had around 25% in so 60% does seem high.
Has it gone up or was that before?
GW has stated pupils with no access to computers and/or suitable working areas can go in too, which was expected to lead to even more pupils going in. | |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:57 - Jan 11 with 1871 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Our local Primary School on 09:37 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
This is the governments fault.
They need to specify exactly what a key worker is and they need to do it today.
The home schooling has improved dramatically though, it's actually very impressive now.
SB |
They don’t use the phrase Key worker anymore in respect of education, they say critical workers and they do publish a list.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-educ |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:57 - Jan 11 with 1870 views | homer_123 |
| Our local Primary School on 09:55 - Jan 11 by bluelagos |
Cheers.
I know the 4 teachers I checked with last week all had around 25% in so 60% does seem high.
Has it gone up or was that before?
GW has stated pupils with no access to computers and/or suitable working areas can go in too, which was expected to lead to even more pupils going in. |
They had around 15% in last time.
It's a small PS with one 1 class per year but still......teachers are incredibly frustrated. | |
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| Our local Primary School on 09:59 - Jan 11 with 1860 views | Kieran_Knows |
Surely that's because it's not really a lockdown this time? Work from home if you can, but if you can't, then continue to go to work.
Driving down the A14 and A12 every day, they're just as busy as what they normally are.
As someone else has pointed out, they really need to outline who are 'key workers'. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 10:03 - Jan 11 with 1843 views | m14_blue |
My wife’s school had 10-15 across the whole school last time, 10-15 per class this time (around 45-50%).
Once again we’ve got the worst of both worlds, not strict enough to properly stop the virus but just enough to make it an absolute nightmare for teachers and many parents. |  | | |
| Our local Primary School on 10:22 - Jan 11 with 1779 views | stantheman |
The school where my grandchildren go have asked all parents to fill in a form as to when and where they work to try minimising any abuse. They have 30% attendance and it is still higher than the previous lockdown. My daughter is a nurse and will be working 7 days a week attending care homes whilst giving the vaccine. My son in law however is still working in manufacturing whereas he was furloughed before most of the time. Lockdown mk11 is nowhere near enough to stop this variant because the public are not as careful as they were before. The one I notice the most is in supermarkets where you see a lot more family groups shopping. Mum, Dad and teenage kids wandering around in shops near me whilst before the shop was trying to stop this. Also no staff at the door who were previously disinfecting trolleys leading to at least 50% of people just not bothering because they cannot be bothered to wait in a queue to do it. |  | | |
| Our local Primary School on 10:27 - Jan 11 with 1761 views | StokieBlue |
So looking at that why is the fancy children's clothes shop on Church Street still open? Or the dog groomers? What about the dog walker who was a key worker?
Businesses are doing what they like as I guess there is no enforcement but the list is still pretty flaky. It needs to be more precise.
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| Our local Primary School on 10:29 - Jan 11 with 1744 views | StokieBlue |
| Our local Primary School on 09:55 - Jan 11 by bluelagos |
Cheers.
I know the 4 teachers I checked with last week all had around 25% in so 60% does seem high.
Has it gone up or was that before?
GW has stated pupils with no access to computers and/or suitable working areas can go in too, which was expected to lead to even more pupils going in. |
The stats the other day were that in March only 17% of schools had greater than 10% admissions and currently that number was 70% of schools.
"I know the 4 teachers I checked with last week all had around 25% in so 60% does seem high"
25% is still too high though if they want to get R<1, it depends what the priorities are here for the government and the public.
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| Our local Primary School on 10:43 - Jan 11 with 1714 views | GunnsAirkick |
A lot of places are staying open as 'essential' when they really should be closing or allowing their staff to work from home.
The company my wife used to work for has a full (albeit socially distanced) office, they're a call centre and they really should be making their staff work from home (they've claimed they're 'essential', when they aren't at all).
All offices should be closed. In this day and age, you can do pretty much anything remotely (with a few exceptions, such as labs), so there's no excuse to not make this law until we're out of this mess.
I feel sorry for parents who are being taken advantage of by companies not following the advice (this is the problem though, it shouldn't be advice, it should be a law). [Post edited 11 Jan 2021 10:47]
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| Our local Primary School on 10:48 - Jan 11 with 1678 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Our local Primary School on 10:27 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
So looking at that why is the fancy children's clothes shop on Church Street still open? Or the dog groomers? What about the dog walker who was a key worker?
Businesses are doing what they like as I guess there is no enforcement but the list is still pretty flaky. It needs to be more precise.
SB |
Everything is flaky with regards guidance. It encourages people to bend the rules. Unfortunately if more precise guidance was given it would highlight anomalies.
Same applies to other restrictions, as you say essential shopping and taking exercise.
I take a walk every day and purchase newspaper while out but is it essential shopping, probably not.
Time to be far stricter with rules. Ban the use of car journeys to take exercise for starters. The traffic levels yesterday were far too high. I used a pedestrian crossing yesterday and by the time I had crossed there were 5-6 cars, in each direction, stationary. In lockdown one you didn’t need to even use crossings , you could cross anywhere with no cars in sight.
Ipswich buses still operate every 10 minutes into Town. Took car for MOT/ service last week other side of Town. Bused from Pinewood to Tower ramparts walked up Woodbridge Road. May passenger on the bus both ways, and I used bus pass. Had to wait at bus stops three times as with no normal stopping to pick up/ drop off passengers the bus was early. | |
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| Our local Primary School on 11:39 - Jan 11 with 1600 views | vapour_trail |
Same at my boys primary.
What is happening is that around half the kids are getting a superior educational experience to the other half. |  |
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| Our local Primary School on 11:44 - Jan 11 with 1571 views | jonbull88 |
| Our local Primary School on 10:48 - Jan 11 by Pinewoodblue |
Everything is flaky with regards guidance. It encourages people to bend the rules. Unfortunately if more precise guidance was given it would highlight anomalies.
Same applies to other restrictions, as you say essential shopping and taking exercise.
I take a walk every day and purchase newspaper while out but is it essential shopping, probably not.
Time to be far stricter with rules. Ban the use of car journeys to take exercise for starters. The traffic levels yesterday were far too high. I used a pedestrian crossing yesterday and by the time I had crossed there were 5-6 cars, in each direction, stationary. In lockdown one you didn’t need to even use crossings , you could cross anywhere with no cars in sight.
Ipswich buses still operate every 10 minutes into Town. Took car for MOT/ service last week other side of Town. Bused from Pinewood to Tower ramparts walked up Woodbridge Road. May passenger on the bus both ways, and I used bus pass. Had to wait at bus stops three times as with no normal stopping to pick up/ drop off passengers the bus was early. |
Unfortunately it was inevitable after the first lockdown all subsequent ones wouldn’t be as effective. People are fed up. The stop start way to go isn’t working. If they wanted to make it properly work, they would lock us all (as many as humanly possible) down and pay everyone to stay at home and keep it that way. When you lift restrictions numbers will rise no matter what curbs are in place. Until the whole world is vaccinated COVID will always be an issue.
The problem is the government have given too much leeway to bosses, they can just say to people you’ve got to come in. I know a few people who’ve asked to work from home and been threatened with the sack if they don’t go in. | | | |
| Our local Primary School on 11:55 - Jan 11 with 1550 views | m14_blue |
| Our local Primary School on 11:39 - Jan 11 by vapour_trail |
Same at my boys primary.
What is happening is that around half the kids are getting a superior educational experience to the other half. |
And in many cases (by no means all) it’s the kids whose parents are bending the rules who are benefiting. | | | |
| Our local Primary School on 12:02 - Jan 11 with 1530 views | Sarge |
| Our local Primary School on 09:37 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
This is the governments fault.
They need to specify exactly what a key worker is and they need to do it today.
The home schooling has improved dramatically though, it's actually very impressive now.
SB |
They won’t though. What they’ll do instead is scrap support bubbles and tighten the exercise rules so they can blame the case numbers on people who live by themselves or people who have gone for a walk.
Clarifying and enforcing key worker classifications is too much like hard work when there’s lower hanging fruit to go for. | | | |
| Our local Primary School on 12:25 - Jan 11 with 1458 views | vapour_trail |
| Our local Primary School on 11:55 - Jan 11 by m14_blue |
And in many cases (by no means all) it’s the kids whose parents are bending the rules who are benefiting. |
I’m not sure it’s that, more that so many more people are going to work outside home than was the case last March. Nothing was open apart from the supermarkets in lockdown 1, it’s completely different this time around. | |
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