| Wins v top 10 teams stat 19:16 - Oct 31 with 2206 views | 3_5_2 |
Karl Fuller has tweeted that since we have been in L1 we have played 41 games v teams who finished or are in the top 10.
We have won 6. Yes. 6
32 points out of a possible 123
That is just awful. |  |
| |  |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:19 - Oct 31 with 1705 views | itfcjoe |
And 3 of those were Matt Gill and Jimmy Walker basically in charge! |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:19 - Oct 31 with 1705 views | HarryB |
its a record and a mentality that we really need to turn around quickly if we are going to achieve anything this season? |  | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:22 - Oct 31 with 1699 views | Darth_Koont |
That is awful. But let’s not keep dragging down the present with the past.
No way our current side would have that record. That was literally a different club. |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:32 - Oct 31 with 1646 views | 3_5_2 |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:22 - Oct 31 by Darth_Koont |
That is awful. But let’s not keep dragging down the present with the past.
No way our current side would have that record. That was literally a different club. |
I agree but Christ that’s a terrible stat
I’m behind Cook and can see improvement it just seems to be a slower process that I expected | |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:36 - Oct 31 with 1642 views | Kropotkin123 |
Assume it would be worse against teams in the top 6 when we played them. Given that we did the double against Blackpool and the first game they were in dreadful form |  |
| Submit your 1-24 league prediction here -https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/514096/page:1 - for the opportunity to get a free Ipswich top. | | Poll: | Would you rather | | Blog: | Round Four: Eagle |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:37 - Oct 31 with 1626 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:22 - Oct 31 by Darth_Koont |
That is awful. But let’s not keep dragging down the present with the past.
No way our current side would have that record. That was literally a different club. |
Cooks record v top 10 is worse than Lambert's I would think. |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:40 - Oct 31 with 1608 views | EastTownBlue |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:36 - Oct 31 by Kropotkin123 |
Assume it would be worse against teams in the top 6 when we played them. Given that we did the double against Blackpool and the first game they were in dreadful form |
That’s the thing. Blackpool away didn’t count as a win against a leading team in the league until later in the season. Who knows where Plymouth will end up ? | | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:55 - Oct 31 with 1552 views | patrickswell |
We’d have 1 more victory to add to that had Alan Young not decided to rewrite the rules of football against Wycombe in 2019 and maybe a further win at Oxford had the referee decided to give a penalty for Norwood being pulled down rather than deciding that two wrongs made a right because he hadn’t pulled Norwood up for a foul 10 yards outside the box.
Still, coulda woulda shoulda - The Ipswich Town L1 Story. |  | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:56 - Oct 31 with 1525 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:19 - Oct 31 by itfcjoe |
And 3 of those were Matt Gill and Jimmy Walker basically in charge! |
The removal of manager bounce. We were hardly fluid football in those games simply a freedom uplift before returning to type. If we had appointed Gill and Walker full time I genuinely don’t think we would be storming the Championship right now with Chambo as skip. |  | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:00 - Oct 31 with 1508 views | Burns7 |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:22 - Oct 31 by Darth_Koont |
That is awful. But let’s not keep dragging down the present with the past.
No way our current side would have that record. That was literally a different club. |
Cooks responsible now, but our League One record is laughable for a club our size and we’ve not even had the excuse of having a decent Trophy run like Sunderland and Pompey have had to divert from the fact we are underperforming at this level and have done for close to three years under two managers. We can’t keep accepting failure and telling people to sit down and shut up for pointing out how bad it has been.
Cook has failed. He shouldn’t be given much longer to do more damage and if Gamechanger are happy with this, then how is it any different than Evans? Better PR but equally bad results…
Cook out. |  | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:09 - Oct 31 with 1485 views | TrumptonBlue |
I'm surprised it's that many. |  | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:17 - Oct 31 with 1461 views | Darth_Koont |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:00 - Oct 31 by Burns7 |
Cooks responsible now, but our League One record is laughable for a club our size and we’ve not even had the excuse of having a decent Trophy run like Sunderland and Pompey have had to divert from the fact we are underperforming at this level and have done for close to three years under two managers. We can’t keep accepting failure and telling people to sit down and shut up for pointing out how bad it has been.
Cook has failed. He shouldn’t be given much longer to do more damage and if Gamechanger are happy with this, then how is it any different than Evans? Better PR but equally bad results…
Cook out. |
Boring.
Saddling Cook with last season’s squad and then the effect of a complete change of personnel doesn’t help anyone. Of course he needs to do better. But the point is, he and the team are doing better now, even if the gains are slow and not yet enough to recover from a poor start.
This insistence with burdening the present with the past is futile. What’s next? Cook doesn’t improve us enough and gets sacked but then we start questioning Gamechanger’s record when the new manager comes in and doesn’t start tearing up trees?
It’s ludicrous when there’s been so much change on and off the pitch to deal with. Unless you think change wasn’t necessary?
You need to be looking for progress not complaining about stuff that’s already happened and is, in itself, the whole basis of what we’re trying to change from. Your knee-jerk reactions because change isn’t happening overnight are a literal waste of time and energy. | |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:20 - Oct 31 with 1454 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:22 - Oct 31 by Darth_Koont |
That is awful. But let’s not keep dragging down the present with the past.
No way our current side would have that record. That was literally a different club. |
So far this season we are underperforming that dismal stat, played 5 of the current top 10 and got 2 pts. |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:37 - Oct 31 with 1415 views | itfcjoe |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:20 - Oct 31 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
So far this season we are underperforming that dismal stat, played 5 of the current top 10 and got 2 pts. |
3 of the 5 also in our improved run of form (i.e. looking at games since Bolton) and led to 1 point.
That record either improves very quickly, or a new man will be in | |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:44 - Oct 31 with 1386 views | Darth_Koont |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:20 - Oct 31 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
So far this season we are underperforming that dismal stat, played 5 of the current top 10 and got 2 pts. |
Which isn’t good enough. But we’re the captive of a past that’s gone and trapped in a future that hasn’t happened yet.
We can only focus on the present and how the performances and results have been slowly improving. If that stops or we go backwards then that’s the actual problem and why Cook would be sacked. | |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 20:52 - Oct 31 with 1352 views | Swansea_Blue |
If we were regularly beating the top teams we wouldn't be a mid table side. It's hardly the most surprising stat out there. |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:00 - Oct 31 with 1308 views | Keaneish |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:19 - Oct 31 by itfcjoe |
And 3 of those were Matt Gill and Jimmy Walker basically in charge! |
And? |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:01 - Oct 31 with 1303 views | Vic |
And therein lies the reasons at we’ve been where we have been.
Improve that stat and we’ll properly start to move upwards. Can we do it yet? Not sure, it were a lot closer than we were a year ago. I’m confident that we’ll be one of those teams to beat in a few months time. |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:05 - Oct 31 with 1284 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 19:56 - Oct 31 by _sanctimoanious_ |
The removal of manager bounce. We were hardly fluid football in those games simply a freedom uplift before returning to type. If we had appointed Gill and Walker full time I genuinely don’t think we would be storming the Championship right now with Chambo as skip. |
We will never know will we? However, Russell Martin certainly thinks Matt Gill has got something about him (at Championship level).
With regards to the "new manager bounce/removal of manager bounce", when exactly are we likely to see that kick in for Hurst/Lambert/Cook? |  |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:14 - Oct 31 with 1227 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:05 - Oct 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
We will never know will we? However, Russell Martin certainly thinks Matt Gill has got something about him (at Championship level).
With regards to the "new manager bounce/removal of manager bounce", when exactly are we likely to see that kick in for Hurst/Lambert/Cook? |
No we won’t but to keep alluding that Gill was some magical moment in time we ignored is simply ludicrous. His mate has taken him to the Championship with him, so what? Lambert took him to the champ to and had him as coach throughout - we hardly looked we drilled.
The insistence on trawling through a car wreck to find a new angle to beat the club with is just so damn boring. | | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:21 - Oct 31 with 1208 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:14 - Oct 31 by _sanctimoanious_ |
No we won’t but to keep alluding that Gill was some magical moment in time we ignored is simply ludicrous. His mate has taken him to the Championship with him, so what? Lambert took him to the champ to and had him as coach throughout - we hardly looked we drilled.
The insistence on trawling through a car wreck to find a new angle to beat the club with is just so damn boring. |
The point being made which you seem to have missed entirely was that half of the wins at this level being referred to were under them. If they are that poor what does that actually say about Lambert and Cook? What's more you haven't explained why they didn't get this magic bounce you explain those results away with.
I wasn't suggesting that they were the answer but clearly they were able to get something from last season's players that Cook was unable to. | |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:30 - Oct 31 with 1171 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:21 - Oct 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The point being made which you seem to have missed entirely was that half of the wins at this level being referred to were under them. If they are that poor what does that actually say about Lambert and Cook? What's more you haven't explained why they didn't get this magic bounce you explain those results away with.
I wasn't suggesting that they were the answer but clearly they were able to get something from last season's players that Cook was unable to. |
No, I’ve really not missed that point just making the point that a few others on here keep on raising them as if they turned things round and we should have stuck with them. it was three games and two of them were still dire. Maybe we should have stuck with them who knows? But the agenda is that it was a no brainer.
Maybe we should have kept Chris Hogg after Mick? Maybe Everton should have kept big Dunc? Who knows? | | | |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:43 - Oct 31 with 1062 views | itfcjoe |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:21 - Oct 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The point being made which you seem to have missed entirely was that half of the wins at this level being referred to were under them. If they are that poor what does that actually say about Lambert and Cook? What's more you haven't explained why they didn't get this magic bounce you explain those results away with.
I wasn't suggesting that they were the answer but clearly they were able to get something from last season's players that Cook was unable to. |
Funny just how a light hearted remark gets jumped upon by some | |
| |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:46 - Oct 31 with 1028 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Wins v top 10 teams stat on 21:43 - Oct 31 by itfcjoe |
Funny just how a light hearted remark gets jumped upon by some |
A continually forced narrative is not a light hearted remark. For some reason you won’t discuss it. | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
