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So, Tim Paine then 08:31 - Nov 19 with 3609 views

Looks like CA covered up his dodgy texts and have only acted because it made the media.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/tim-paine-quits-as-australia-captain-after-se

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:34 - Nov 19 with 2475 views

JakeITFC

Hopefully this Ashes series we’ll be the last we see of him, odious man.

So, Tim Paine then on 08:38 - Nov 19 with 2458 views

IpswichKnight

What odds on Root joining him in the wilderness? Root best friend and former flat mate is the charming multicultural champion Gary Ballance.

So, Tim Paine then on 08:40 - Nov 19 with 2436 views

BiGDonnie

Cheating scumbag!

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:47 - Nov 19 with 2404 views

Chrisd

Cricket is certainly not in a good place at the moment. Regarding Paine's situation, wasn't this dealt with at the time? If so, why is it resurfacing now, 4 years down the line?

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:47 - Nov 19 with 2390 views

waspsforever1

Aussies and budgies I just dislike them

So, Tim Paine then on 08:51 - Nov 19 with 2367 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:47 - Nov 19 by Chrisd
Cricket is certainly not in a good place at the moment. Regarding Paine's situation, wasn't this dealt with at the time? If so, why is it resurfacing now, 4 years down the line? [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 8:49]

Because it's come into the public domain. CA knowing about this but still believing he was the man to bring a bit of dignity to the test side after sandpapergate is quite staggering in its incompetence.

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:56 - Nov 19 with 2332 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:47 - Nov 19 by waspsforever1
Aussies and budgies I just dislike them

You can add fkn daffodils to that list as well - F#(&*NG B@$?@%DS !!!

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:59 - Nov 19 with 2308 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:47 - Nov 19 by Chrisd
Cricket is certainly not in a good place at the moment. Regarding Paine's situation, wasn't this dealt with at the time? If so, why is it resurfacing now, 4 years down the line? [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 8:49]

Because it's now politically expedient for whoever has been privy to this information to bring it into the public domain, perhaps to add a bit of 'whataboutery' to the scrutiny that certain English cricket institutions are currently under.

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:00 - Nov 19 with 2307 views

WD19

Leaked by Steve Smiths mate then.

I say mate.....because the chances of there being more than one are slim.....

So, Tim Paine then on 09:03 - Nov 19 with 2267 views

Ftnfwest

So, Tim Paine then on 08:47 - Nov 19 by Chrisd
Cricket is certainly not in a good place at the moment. Regarding Paine's situation, wasn't this dealt with at the time? If so, why is it resurfacing now, 4 years down the line? [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 8:49]

If this gets more widely into football (scrutinizing of historic texts and tweets about anything) it'll be never ending.

So, Tim Paine then on 09:06 - Nov 19 with 2244 views

Guthrum

So, Tim Paine then on 09:00 - Nov 19 by WD19
Leaked by Steve Smiths mate then. I say mate.....because the chances of there being more than one are slim.....

I doubt Smith will get the captaincy back this soon. More likely to go to Cummins (tho it is unusual to have a bowler in charge).

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:10 - Nov 19 with 2211 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:38 - Nov 19 by IpswichKnight
What odds on Root joining him in the wilderness? Root best friend and former flat mate is the charming multicultural champion Gary Ballance.

I'm not so sure.
Azeem Rafiq seemed quite supportive of Joe Root in his testimony. He mentioned he was probably blind to what was going on, but didn't suggest anything untoward was said.
What we can be certain of though is that there will be editors across the country instructing journos to scour ancient social media posts looking for evidence of wrongdoing. I think there will be some frantic deleting going on across the cricket world right now.

Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness.

So, Tim Paine then on 09:12 - Nov 19 with 2185 views

Suffolktractor

So, Tim Paine then on 09:06 - Nov 19 by Guthrum
I doubt Smith will get the captaincy back this soon. More likely to go to Cummins (tho it is unusual to have a bowler in charge).

Bob Willis springs to mind, can’t think of any others

So, Tim Paine then on 09:16 - Nov 19 with 2164 views

StokieBlue

I see Hales also went a bit Norwood back in 2009.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59344022

I guess it's going to be a stream of these reports for the next few months.

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:20 - Nov 19 with 2112 views

giant_stow

Assuming it was a dick pic, I was just wondering if sending one of these has ever had the desired effect for any many ever? They're a completely alien concept to me, but then I predate mobiles.

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:24 - Nov 19 with 2092 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:03 - Nov 19 by Ftnfwest
If this gets more widely into football (scrutinizing of historic texts and tweets about anything) it'll be never ending.

I think it will go on for a long time, because these casual bigotries (race, culture, religion, sex, sexuality) are deeply rooted in the macho "banter" culture of sport in general - and, indeed, wider society. People feel it's almost necessary to play along (or fail to challenge*), in order to be part of the group.

Until society has grown out of that (and politicians/media outlets encouraging it for their own benefit), there is always going to be a residue of these things emerging.

* Was once in that position myself. I felt very uncomfortable but, to my eternal shame, did nothing about it. Edit: That was in a cricketing context, too.

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:32 - Nov 19 with 2033 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:03 - Nov 19 by Ftnfwest
If this gets more widely into football (scrutinizing of historic texts and tweets about anything) it'll be never ending.

In sports dominated by public schoolboys, yes. In trad working class sports like football and boxing I doubt it.

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:45 - Nov 19 with 1961 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:12 - Nov 19 by Suffolktractor
Bob Willis springs to mind, can’t think of any others

Imran Khan, Ray Illingworth, Kapil Dev.

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:46 - Nov 19 with 1968 views

Lord_Lucan

So, Tim Paine then on 09:03 - Nov 19 by Ftnfwest
If this gets more widely into football (scrutinizing of historic texts and tweets about anything) it'll be never ending.

Mother is very nervous.

At Jubilee year in 1977 she helped 11 year old Lucan black up for a "Fun Day Cricket match" in honour of my batting hero Clive Lloyd

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:50 - Nov 19 with 1942 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 09:46 - Nov 19 by Lord_Lucan
Mother is very nervous. At Jubilee year in 1977 she helped 11 year old Lucan black up for a "Fun Day Cricket match" in honour of my batting hero Clive Lloyd

You're cancelled.

So, Tim Paine then on 10:06 - Nov 19 with 1871 views

Ftnfwest

So, Tim Paine then on 09:46 - Nov 19 by Lord_Lucan
Mother is very nervous. At Jubilee year in 1977 she helped 11 year old Lucan black up for a "Fun Day Cricket match" in honour of my batting hero Clive Lloyd

then there's all the suzi quattro texts... (in later years of course)

So, Tim Paine then on 10:14 - Nov 19 with 1819 views

Suffolktractor

So, Tim Paine then on 09:45 - Nov 19 by Radlett_blue
Imran Khan, Ray Illingworth, Kapil Dev.

Fair point, but weren’t all 3 of them pretty tidy with a bat as well?

So, Tim Paine then on 10:16 - Nov 19 with 1817 views

usm

So, Tim Paine then on 09:24 - Nov 19 by Guthrum

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Spot on, Guthers, as usual.
If you look hard enough you'll find historical bigotry of some kind in most of us.
Its there, whether we like to admit it or not and indeed much of it will have been forgotten.
Bit like smoking indoors now or not wearing a seat belt. Almost unthinkable now, but common place back in the day.

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So, Tim Paine then on 11:08 - Nov 19 with 1707 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 08:51 - Nov 19 by jimsymBLUE
Because it's come into the public domain. CA knowing about this but still believing he was the man to bring a bit of dignity to the test side after sandpapergate is quite staggering in its incompetence.

I'd say that those that appointed him also need to stand down, if this is genuinely thought of to be a resignation matter.

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So, Tim Paine then on 12:02 - Nov 19 with 1610 views

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So, Tim Paine then on 10:14 - Nov 19 by Suffolktractor
Fair point, but weren’t all 3 of them pretty tidy with a bat as well?

Yes, they could all bat, but the argument generally used is that a front line bowler often doesn't make a great captain as he often over or under-bowls himself, while focusing on your bowling plus the captaincy is hard.

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