| Kurt Zouma and cats 14:11 - Feb 9 with 10341 views | homer_123 |
I'm posting this more out of interest as much as anything.
What he did was wrong and I've no idea why it was videoed etc. just bizarre.
That being said - I eat meat as do those pillorying him - we rear animals to slaughter, in fact we rear them on such a scale that is has devastating effects on the environment.
I find it interesting that, on the one hand, electrocuting and/or putting a bolt through an animals head and killing it doesn't seem to raise the same concern/outrage as the events of yesterday.
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:19 - Feb 9 with 3382 views | J2BLUE |
Been done already. |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:20 - Feb 9 with 3370 views | homer_123 |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:19 - Feb 9 by J2BLUE |
Been done already. |
Missed it - where J2? | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:21 - Feb 9 with 3363 views | monytowbray |
I appreciate the fact some get it, would be nice if you pipe up when the idiots are out in force though! ;)
J2 and MattinLDN represent.
Makes me laugh it got blocked for abuse by the poster accusing me of being a parody.
SnowflakeArcher. |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:22 - Feb 9 with 3344 views | monytowbray |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:20 - Feb 9 by homer_123 |
Missed it - where J2? |
In the locked thread. | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:22 - Feb 9 with 3366 views | Guthrum |
Generally speaking, the intention is to slaughter animals without unneccessary cruelty or suffering*. Drop-kicking a cat is, at the least, negligent as to whether pain or injury is caused.
* I know it doesn't necessarily turn out that way. |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:22 - Feb 9 with 3358 views | J2BLUE |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:20 - Feb 9 by homer_123 |
Missed it - where J2? |
Kicks off with FattyBoomBoom on page 1.
Just noticed he told me to watch Dominion. I have watched every second of it. | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:23 - Feb 9 with 3353 views | GavTWTD |
I had to lock the thread.
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:24 - Feb 9 with 3333 views | J2BLUE |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:23 - Feb 9 by GavTWTD |
I had to lock the thread.
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:25 - Feb 9 with 3327 views | Darth_Koont |
Takes a certain mental agility to not make the same connection but that’s what us humans are good at, myself included.
That agility and abstraction is the strength of the human mind and its weakness. |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:25 - Feb 9 with 3326 views | GavTWTD |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:21 - Feb 9 by monytowbray |
I appreciate the fact some get it, would be nice if you pipe up when the idiots are out in force though! ;)
J2 and MattinLDN represent.
Makes me laugh it got blocked for abuse by the poster accusing me of being a parody.
SnowflakeArcher. |
You're really helping by calling people snowflakes | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:26 - Feb 9 with 3309 views | monytowbray |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:22 - Feb 9 by Guthrum |
Generally speaking, the intention is to slaughter animals without unneccessary cruelty or suffering*. Drop-kicking a cat is, at the least, negligent as to whether pain or injury is caused.
* I know it doesn't necessarily turn out that way. |
The core difference seems to be “I ate it or sold it as food afterwards”.
Animals love being slaughtered of course though, the whole process causes them no pain or distress at all.
Sarcasm not aimed at you of course, just speaking in general. | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:28 - Feb 9 with 3285 views | monytowbray |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:25 - Feb 9 by GavTWTD |
You're really helping by calling people snowflakes |
Probably not, but logic and fact couldn’t cut through the emotive angle, so I had to tug at the heartstrings. | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:31 - Feb 9 with 3236 views | WeWereZombies |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:25 - Feb 9 by Darth_Koont |
Takes a certain mental agility to not make the same connection but that’s what us humans are good at, myself included.
That agility and abstraction is the strength of the human mind and its weakness. |
And, of course, cats have no agility...whatsoever. |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:34 - Feb 9 with 3218 views | J2BLUE |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:28 - Feb 9 by monytowbray |
Probably not, but logic and fact couldn’t cut through the emotive angle, so I had to tug at the heartstrings. |
I sometimes think of you when sitting in my car eating a Costa bacon roll and a seagull lands on the bonnet and watches me.
It knows. | |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:50 - Feb 9 with 3118 views | MattinLondon |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:21 - Feb 9 by monytowbray |
I appreciate the fact some get it, would be nice if you pipe up when the idiots are out in force though! ;)
J2 and MattinLDN represent.
Makes me laugh it got blocked for abuse by the poster accusing me of being a parody.
SnowflakeArcher. |
I don’t really understand why the thread was locked as I didn’t think it got especially toxic in tone - but that’s not my call to make. Thought it was an interesting debate that raised a few good points. |  | | |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:02 - Feb 9 with 3060 views | BiGDonnie |
The RSPCA have taken the cats off him... |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:22 - Feb 9 with 2980 views | chicoazul |
Some of you seem surprised footballers act out of control around pussy
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:32 - Feb 9 with 2925 views | Vaughan8 |
How brave of him to comply..... |  | | |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:34 - Feb 9 with 2903 views | clive_baker |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:22 - Feb 9 by J2BLUE |
Kicks off with FattyBoomBoom on page 1.
Just noticed he told me to watch Dominion. I have watched every second of it. |
That was an anti climax. Scrolled down there in anticipation for who you were calling fattyfattyboomboom.
Turns out that's his username. |  |
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:35 - Feb 9 with 2899 views | Vaughan8 |
AM I missing something? Please explain because I am lost. Surely these things are different.
That's like saying "well cats eat animals so they deserve it". Cats kill birds so we can kick the sh!t out of them.
Unfortunately, (for some with this agenda), most cats are pets in our country and many other countries. I've watched programmes where breeders breed too many cats/kittens and where burying them alive to "get rid of them".
Am I a hypocrite for thinking that is wrong because I ate a chicken burger 2 days ago? [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 15:38]
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:39 - Feb 9 with 2862 views | homer_123 |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:35 - Feb 9 by Vaughan8 |
AM I missing something? Please explain because I am lost. Surely these things are different.
That's like saying "well cats eat animals so they deserve it". Cats kill birds so we can kick the sh!t out of them.
Unfortunately, (for some with this agenda), most cats are pets in our country and many other countries. I've watched programmes where breeders breed too many cats/kittens and where burying them alive to "get rid of them".
Am I a hypocrite for thinking that is wrong because I ate a chicken burger 2 days ago? [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 15:38]
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I was pondering the question out loud as such.
As I said...clearly Zouma was wrong...no question.
And Guthers details the answer to the question below.
But I would say yes, we are somewhat hypocritical are we not? [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 15:42]
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| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:41 - Feb 9 with 2839 views | leitrimblue |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 14:21 - Feb 9 by monytowbray |
I appreciate the fact some get it, would be nice if you pipe up when the idiots are out in force though! ;)
J2 and MattinLDN represent.
Makes me laugh it got blocked for abuse by the poster accusing me of being a parody.
SnowflakeArcher. |
As one of the idiots, I thought it was quite a pleasant an interesting discussion. Not sure why it was locked. |  | | |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:42 - Feb 9 with 2833 views | monytowbray |
| Kurt Zouma and cats on 15:35 - Feb 9 by Vaughan8 |
AM I missing something? Please explain because I am lost. Surely these things are different.
That's like saying "well cats eat animals so they deserve it". Cats kill birds so we can kick the sh!t out of them.
Unfortunately, (for some with this agenda), most cats are pets in our country and many other countries. I've watched programmes where breeders breed too many cats/kittens and where burying them alive to "get rid of them".
Am I a hypocrite for thinking that is wrong because I ate a chicken burger 2 days ago? [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 15:38]
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Yes, is the honest answer. Selective animal treatment based on societal value of that animal as a companion/pet.
Animal agriculture isn't what the same as the greenwashed photos you see on the advertising.
What you do with that information however, that's on you to act. I believe in you :)
It's 2022 and veganism has never been easier. It will only get easier too. | |
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