| Wes Burns this season 12:42 - Mar 8 with 2384 views | itfcjoe |
In the team
28 games - 52 points - 1.86 PPG
Not in the team
8 games - 4 points - 0.5 PPG
9 league goals, 5 league assists
Playing RWB for half of those games and part of a defence that has kept all those clean sheets - 6 goals and 2 assists since moving positions
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| Wes Burns this season on 12:50 - Mar 8 with 2061 views | OsborneOneNil |
POTY |  | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 12:51 - Mar 8 with 2045 views | Chrisd |
He has proved one of those very good signings by PC and MA. |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 12:53 - Mar 8 with 2029 views | Fixed_It |
Doesn't it make a pleasant change to have so many to choose from?!
You could also make out a strong case for at least 5 others too. [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 12:53]
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| Wes Burns this season on 12:56 - Mar 8 with 1990 views | Illinoisblue |
| Wes Burns this season on 12:53 - Mar 8 by Fixed_It |
Doesn't it make a pleasant change to have so many to choose from?!
You could also make out a strong case for at least 5 others too. [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 12:53]
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JD, Walton, Fridge, Morsy. If only there was a striker contender in there too… |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 12:58 - Mar 8 with 1983 views | RobTheMonk |
He's an absolute workhorse going in both directions. I can remember seeing him utterly outpace Wolfie when he was with Fleetwood and thinking how I'd love to see him here.
I think we'll be looking at a LWB equivalent in the summer. |  | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:03 - Mar 8 with 1937 views | itfcjoe |
| Wes Burns this season on 12:58 - Mar 8 by RobTheMonk |
He's an absolute workhorse going in both directions. I can remember seeing him utterly outpace Wolfie when he was with Fleetwood and thinking how I'd love to see him here.
I think we'll be looking at a LWB equivalent in the summer. |
I wonder whether you could balance a team out with 2 flyers like that - because we effectively shift to a back 4 in the ball with Burns pushing on and Thompson dropping in | |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:08 - Mar 8 with 1894 views | Chrisd |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:03 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
I wonder whether you could balance a team out with 2 flyers like that - because we effectively shift to a back 4 in the ball with Burns pushing on and Thompson dropping in |
We need to find someone that can do the job equally as effectively on the left as WB on the right, otherwise we will become too predictable with our attacking threat. It would provide a nice balance to the side as well. [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 13:10]
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:11 - Mar 8 with 1851 views | BlueBadger |
Without a doubt.
And Donacien our most improved player. |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:12 - Mar 8 with 1848 views | itfcsuth |
| Wes Burns this season on 12:51 - Mar 8 by Chrisd |
He has proved one of those very good signings by PC and MA. |
I think for Cooks downfalls here, it looks clear now that he and MA assembled a exceptional squad at this level.
It just took a different manager to get the best out of the them, and shape them in to such a strong outfit. |  | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:13 - Mar 8 with 1833 views | itfcsuth |
Nobody could have any arguments if he did, along with Edmundson & Walton.
For me though, I can't look past Donacien - I think he's been terrific this season, and even more so since moving into a back 3. | | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:20 - Mar 8 with 1795 views | RobTheMonk |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:08 - Mar 8 by Chrisd |
We need to find someone that can do the job equally as effectively on the left as WB on the right, otherwise we will become too predictable with our attacking threat. It would provide a nice balance to the side as well. [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 13:10]
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Agreed. Penney would do it going forward, but was suspect going the other way. Thompson seems better at staying back and as Joe said, slotting into a back 4.
Whichever way you look at it, we're going to need a LWB next season, even if that means getting Thompson back as a loan/permanent deal. Potentially two depending on how McKenna feels about Penney. | | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:25 - Mar 8 with 1777 views | Chrisd |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:12 - Mar 8 by itfcsuth |
I think for Cooks downfalls here, it looks clear now that he and MA assembled a exceptional squad at this level.
It just took a different manager to get the best out of the them, and shape them in to such a strong outfit. |
Very true. You look at a lot of the signings that were made in the summer, there's quite a few of them now showing their full potential. | |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:29 - Mar 8 with 1751 views | itfcjoe |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:12 - Mar 8 by itfcsuth |
I think for Cooks downfalls here, it looks clear now that he and MA assembled a exceptional squad at this level.
It just took a different manager to get the best out of the them, and shape them in to such a strong outfit. |
We spent fortunes in the summer, any CEO and manager combo could have built a good squad at this level with what we were spending in a depressed market | |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:30 - Mar 8 with 1742 views | IPS_wich |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:13 - Mar 8 by itfcsuth |
Nobody could have any arguments if he did, along with Edmundson & Walton.
For me though, I can't look past Donacien - I think he's been terrific this season, and even more so since moving into a back 3. |
Wes
JD
Walton
That’s my top three at the moment.
Morsy had missed too many games - including the start of the season before he signed. Fridge has had some occasional shockers. Woolfie would be my player of the McKenna regime. | | | |
| I actually think we are too reliant on him... on 13:35 - Mar 8 with 1687 views | unstableblue |
Love those stats Joe.
I think there is a hidden stat that in the few games he has played when he been off form... we just didn't convince or threaten
We love Burns, and we need him to continue.. but we also need sources for assists and goals from multiple players... celina to jackson was so pleasing
Thompson needs to get up the pitch more.... and hit the byline.. Morsy needs to keep breaking the lines |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:36 - Mar 8 with 1680 views | LeoMuff |
| Wes Burns this season on 12:58 - Mar 8 by RobTheMonk |
He's an absolute workhorse going in both directions. I can remember seeing him utterly outpace Wolfie when he was with Fleetwood and thinking how I'd love to see him here.
I think we'll be looking at a LWB equivalent in the summer. |
I’m still hoping Edwards could fill that role, maybe I’m an optimist |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:38 - Mar 8 with 1665 views | itfcsuth |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:30 - Mar 8 by IPS_wich |
Wes
JD
Walton
That’s my top three at the moment.
Morsy had missed too many games - including the start of the season before he signed. Fridge has had some occasional shockers. Woolfie would be my player of the McKenna regime. |
Couldn't argue with any of the names you've mentioned.
Can make a credible case for all of them. | | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:39 - Mar 8 with 1660 views | NthQldITFC |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:03 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
I wonder whether you could balance a team out with 2 flyers like that - because we effectively shift to a back 4 in the ball with Burns pushing on and Thompson dropping in |
Perhaps not for all games, but certainly against half of this league next season (if we're in it), and if the awareness between the two wing backs and the sitting midfielder is right, then even against tougher teams you could play it. Would serve to keep Burns fresher through games and through the season as well. |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 13:45 - Mar 8 with 1603 views | itfcsuth |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:29 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
We spent fortunes in the summer, any CEO and manager combo could have built a good squad at this level with what we were spending in a depressed market |
Quite a simplistic approach. | | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:50 - Mar 8 with 1572 views | itfcjoe |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:45 - Mar 8 by itfcsuth |
Quite a simplistic approach. |
Sometimes things don't need to be overcomplicated - especially when a lot of signings were players that have previously done well at this level, in the very recent past that we could blow clubs away wages wise.
Even going back to Wes Burns, he was due to sign for Coventry, then Fleetwood triggered his contract option (that they couldn't afford to pay for the season) and because we were able to pay ~£150k transfer fee it meant that Coventry could no longer afford him.
The bottom half of the Championship had no money, Leagues 1 and 2 had no money so we were very much able to get the pick of a lot of players.
Someone like Sam Morsy was no doubt a tough deal to do, but being able to pay north of £10k a week made it achievable, without the loadsamoney we had there is no way that deal gets done | |
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| Wes Burns this season on 14:03 - Mar 8 with 1498 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:50 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
Sometimes things don't need to be overcomplicated - especially when a lot of signings were players that have previously done well at this level, in the very recent past that we could blow clubs away wages wise.
Even going back to Wes Burns, he was due to sign for Coventry, then Fleetwood triggered his contract option (that they couldn't afford to pay for the season) and because we were able to pay ~£150k transfer fee it meant that Coventry could no longer afford him.
The bottom half of the Championship had no money, Leagues 1 and 2 had no money so we were very much able to get the pick of a lot of players.
Someone like Sam Morsy was no doubt a tough deal to do, but being able to pay north of £10k a week made it achievable, without the loadsamoney we had there is no way that deal gets done |
And what a change for it to be us that has this situation to enjoy!!
Now, let's make it count. | | | |
| Wes Burns this season on 14:53 - Mar 8 with 1377 views | jayessess |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:20 - Mar 8 by RobTheMonk |
Agreed. Penney would do it going forward, but was suspect going the other way. Thompson seems better at staying back and as Joe said, slotting into a back 4.
Whichever way you look at it, we're going to need a LWB next season, even if that means getting Thompson back as a loan/permanent deal. Potentially two depending on how McKenna feels about Penney. |
I thought the same on Penney from the eye test, but from the stats Thompson actually creates chances twice as often. [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 14:57]
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| Wes Burns this season on 14:56 - Mar 8 with 1358 views | Fixed_It |
| Wes Burns this season on 13:36 - Mar 8 by LeoMuff |
I’m still hoping Edwards could fill that role, maybe I’m an optimist |
If it worked, that would be awesome! | |
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| Wes Burns this season on 14:58 - Mar 8 with 1344 views | Hullblue |
| Wes Burns this season on 14:53 - Mar 8 by jayessess |
I thought the same on Penney from the eye test, but from the stats Thompson actually creates chances twice as often. [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 14:57]
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Thompson is so comfortable on the ball in deep positions as well - think he helps us keep it really well. With Penney you were never sure if he was going to lose it. |  |
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| Wes Burns this season on 16:00 - Mar 8 with 1213 views | Kropotkin123 |
It's a good post, very factual. But for it to be POTY, I'd expect it to be saying something we don't have a general idea of. Maybe I'm in the minority on this one.
Edit for ITFCed: I'm not being serious, I was deliberately pretending POTY was POTY and not POTY... [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 16:18]
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