Incredible how Poland... 08:19 - Mar 9 with 5325 views | BanksterDebtSlave | ....has taken in 1.2 million and into peoples houses too. Imagine how quickly they must have done the biometric processing to check they aren't Putin infiltrators. Our government is shameless. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 08:39 - Mar 9 with 2732 views | BarcaBlue | The families' stories on BBC breakfast this morning has made me so angry. The wait and barriers put up to get a Visa is heartbreaking. They were saying that leaving Ukraine was easier. These are women, children and the elderly ffs. A town near me here, a town of 5000 people, has already welcomed around 200 Ukrainians. No visa, no its and buts just a proper welcome |  | |  |
Incredible how Poland... on 08:44 - Mar 9 with 2716 views | noggin |
Incredible how Poland... on 08:39 - Mar 9 by BarcaBlue | The families' stories on BBC breakfast this morning has made me so angry. The wait and barriers put up to get a Visa is heartbreaking. They were saying that leaving Ukraine was easier. These are women, children and the elderly ffs. A town near me here, a town of 5000 people, has already welcomed around 200 Ukrainians. No visa, no its and buts just a proper welcome |
Yeah but Britain is leading the way and that... |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 08:49 - Mar 9 with 2705 views | bluelagos | As well as opening their homes to refugees, I saw a clip from a train carrying refugees across Poland. The reporter told how at every station people brought food/sandwiches which were simply passed through windows to those inside the carriages. Polish schools have already started taking Ukranian children as pupils. I think I heard Moldova has taken in the equivalent of 1 in 10. Meanwhile, we issued another 270 visas yesterday.... |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 08:52 - Mar 9 with 2694 views | bluelagos |
Incredible how Poland... on 08:39 - Mar 9 by BarcaBlue | The families' stories on BBC breakfast this morning has made me so angry. The wait and barriers put up to get a Visa is heartbreaking. They were saying that leaving Ukraine was easier. These are women, children and the elderly ffs. A town near me here, a town of 5000 people, has already welcomed around 200 Ukrainians. No visa, no its and buts just a proper welcome |
I am extremely confident most Brits would be just as welcoming. Shame many also happily lapped up the anti migrant rhetoric of the past decades. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:04 - Mar 9 with 2631 views | Churchman |
Incredible how Poland... on 08:49 - Mar 9 by bluelagos | As well as opening their homes to refugees, I saw a clip from a train carrying refugees across Poland. The reporter told how at every station people brought food/sandwiches which were simply passed through windows to those inside the carriages. Polish schools have already started taking Ukranian children as pupils. I think I heard Moldova has taken in the equivalent of 1 in 10. Meanwhile, we issued another 270 visas yesterday.... |
It’s shameful. We are meant to be friends of Poland and the actual approach to this is to say ‘your problem, we don’t want to know’. I accept that there is nothing to offer on the military front, but the refugee crisis is something we can help do something about. Instead, Johnson waves his little fists about claiming how we are ‘leading the way’, yet we lead the way in what exactly? Do little while claiming a lot. If he is going to do zippo, other than check his bank account, I just wish he and the pin headed hag at the Home Office would shut up. Clapping Zelensky in the HoC - great. Try actually doing something useful for the first time in your privileged life, Johnson. I’m not holding my breath. [Post edited 9 Mar 2022 9:23]
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:06 - Mar 9 with 2625 views | itfcjoe | Yep, utterly shameful |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:19 - Mar 9 with 2598 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Incredible how Poland... on 08:49 - Mar 9 by bluelagos | As well as opening their homes to refugees, I saw a clip from a train carrying refugees across Poland. The reporter told how at every station people brought food/sandwiches which were simply passed through windows to those inside the carriages. Polish schools have already started taking Ukranian children as pupils. I think I heard Moldova has taken in the equivalent of 1 in 10. Meanwhile, we issued another 270 visas yesterday.... |
Aha but Putin's infiltrator army of women, children and the over 60's marches on! As an aside surely Coca Cola and McDonalds should be encouraged to continue to undermine the health of the Russian population! |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:28 - Mar 9 with 2548 views | Whos_blue | I am by no means a tory apologist. In fact, far from it. However, I wrote to my local MP, who I would describe as a particulary blue tory, last week about this and was pleasantly surprised by his response. He explained that he and other colleagues had written to Johnson, going on to say "This is not another migration crisis; this is a crisis of war. This should not be business as usual - we need immediate support for the Ukranian people" Fair play. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:31 - Mar 9 with 2524 views | GlasgowBlue | I read this morning that one Ukrainian family were refused a visa because they couldn’t produce a utility bill. I struggle to do that when picking up something I’ve ordered online. How the fcuk is somebody fleeing mass carnage expected to remember a utility bill? Utterly shameful. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:31 - Mar 9 with 2538 views | chicoazul | I do think part of the reason why the Poles have acted so excellently is because they, like many people in Europe, have a very vivid blood memory of being conquered and displaced which we don’t have in Britain. This is not to excuse our useless shambles of a government who could and should be doing so much more. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:36 - Mar 9 with 2506 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:28 - Mar 9 by Whos_blue | I am by no means a tory apologist. In fact, far from it. However, I wrote to my local MP, who I would describe as a particulary blue tory, last week about this and was pleasantly surprised by his response. He explained that he and other colleagues had written to Johnson, going on to say "This is not another migration crisis; this is a crisis of war. This should not be business as usual - we need immediate support for the Ukranian people" Fair play. |
Pretty much the same as Syria really! |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:47 - Mar 9 with 2470 views | noggin |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:31 - Mar 9 by chicoazul | I do think part of the reason why the Poles have acted so excellently is because they, like many people in Europe, have a very vivid blood memory of being conquered and displaced which we don’t have in Britain. This is not to excuse our useless shambles of a government who could and should be doing so much more. |
British children were displaced and cared for by strangers. Seems you're looking to excuse the government, whilst attempting to cover up your own bias. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 09:51 - Mar 9 with 2455 views | giant_stow |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:47 - Mar 9 by noggin | British children were displaced and cared for by strangers. Seems you're looking to excuse the government, whilst attempting to cover up your own bias. |
Thats not how I read Chico's comment. He was just chewing the cud. hey ho. Edit: your point about kids being moved is a good counter! Not looking for a bustup! [Post edited 9 Mar 2022 9:57]
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:07 - Mar 9 with 2413 views | Lord_Lucan |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:31 - Mar 9 by chicoazul | I do think part of the reason why the Poles have acted so excellently is because they, like many people in Europe, have a very vivid blood memory of being conquered and displaced which we don’t have in Britain. This is not to excuse our useless shambles of a government who could and should be doing so much more. |
The reason why The Poles have taken so many is because they are next door, it is also clear that displaced Ukrainians have more in common in many ways with the likes of the Poles than the British. The same will apply to countries such as Hungary, Solvakia, Romania etc. Also they would want, I imagine, to be closer to their home should they be able to go back. If for example the people of Scotland or Wales were on the run then I would expect we would take the brunt and the likes of Poland would take a lot less. that's the grown up part of the argument anyway. Hooever - It is pretty shameful the way Pritti Patel has handled this and we should be here with open arms and a cup of tea to anyone who wants to come, no question! Where are all these refugees actually living once they have moved country? I mean, are they in makeshift camps with tents?? Wherefor example are Poland putting 1m people - and where would we? Is opening up the unused Covid Nightingale hospitals an idea? |  |
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I mean, come on..... on 10:19 - Mar 9 with 2388 views | Bloots |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:47 - Mar 9 by noggin | British children were displaced and cared for by strangers. Seems you're looking to excuse the government, whilst attempting to cover up your own bias. |
....he literally typed: "This is not to excuse our useless shambles of a government who could and should be doing so much more." Yet your response is: "Seem's you're looking to excuse the government" ....and you talk about bias? Get a grip. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:43 - Mar 9 with 2324 views | bluelagos |
Incredible how Poland... on 10:07 - Mar 9 by Lord_Lucan | The reason why The Poles have taken so many is because they are next door, it is also clear that displaced Ukrainians have more in common in many ways with the likes of the Poles than the British. The same will apply to countries such as Hungary, Solvakia, Romania etc. Also they would want, I imagine, to be closer to their home should they be able to go back. If for example the people of Scotland or Wales were on the run then I would expect we would take the brunt and the likes of Poland would take a lot less. that's the grown up part of the argument anyway. Hooever - It is pretty shameful the way Pritti Patel has handled this and we should be here with open arms and a cup of tea to anyone who wants to come, no question! Where are all these refugees actually living once they have moved country? I mean, are they in makeshift camps with tents?? Wherefor example are Poland putting 1m people - and where would we? Is opening up the unused Covid Nightingale hospitals an idea? |
All fair comments So in Poland basically over 1m people have been taken into ordinary Poles' homes. Not a tent in sight from the reports I've seen - just people standing at stations with signs offering refuge. Where would we house them? Quite simply in people's houses I'd imagine - long before we get to the situation of having to consider emergency measures like the hospitals. I accept the Poles have a recent memory of Russian aggression which we don't, but I also think the vast majority of Brits would be welcoming in ways including for many, housing refugees where they can. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:47 - Mar 9 with 2306 views | Swansea_Blue |
Incredible how Poland... on 10:43 - Mar 9 by bluelagos | All fair comments So in Poland basically over 1m people have been taken into ordinary Poles' homes. Not a tent in sight from the reports I've seen - just people standing at stations with signs offering refuge. Where would we house them? Quite simply in people's houses I'd imagine - long before we get to the situation of having to consider emergency measures like the hospitals. I accept the Poles have a recent memory of Russian aggression which we don't, but I also think the vast majority of Brits would be welcoming in ways including for many, housing refugees where they can. |
Yeah, I agree with your last sentence. Given the response by Brits so far, I suspect we'd be similarly generous and accommodating as the Polish people IF we could be. It'll remainan academic point though if barely any Ukrainians can get here. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:48 - Mar 9 with 2304 views | bluelagos |
Kin hell. They literally have no shame, hiding behind the question of Russian spys...as if they would have any trouble getting into the UK if they so wished - just wave some fcking money at his tory party and am sure they'll be bending over backwards to welcome them if previous conduct is anything to go by. [Post edited 9 Mar 2022 11:46]
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:51 - Mar 9 with 2287 views | CBBlue |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:28 - Mar 9 by Whos_blue | I am by no means a tory apologist. In fact, far from it. However, I wrote to my local MP, who I would describe as a particulary blue tory, last week about this and was pleasantly surprised by his response. He explained that he and other colleagues had written to Johnson, going on to say "This is not another migration crisis; this is a crisis of war. This should not be business as usual - we need immediate support for the Ukranian people" Fair play. |
Has always seemed slightly more approachable than some but usually with the same tory blinkers on so fair play indeed. I emailed my MP about it but have heard zilch from him, although to be fair it was the same weekend he was simpering on about 'falling in love' while wearing his milk tray man turtle neck so assume the 'Cock has differing priorities. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:52 - Mar 9 with 2282 views | giant_stow |
Incredible how Poland... on 10:48 - Mar 9 by bluelagos | Kin hell. They literally have no shame, hiding behind the question of Russian spys...as if they would have any trouble getting into the UK if they so wished - just wave some fcking money at his tory party and am sure they'll be bending over backwards to welcome them if previous conduct is anything to go by. [Post edited 9 Mar 2022 11:46]
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Incredible how Poland... on 10:53 - Mar 9 with 2278 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Incredible how Poland... on 09:28 - Mar 9 by Whos_blue | I am by no means a tory apologist. In fact, far from it. However, I wrote to my local MP, who I would describe as a particulary blue tory, last week about this and was pleasantly surprised by his response. He explained that he and other colleagues had written to Johnson, going on to say "This is not another migration crisis; this is a crisis of war. This should not be business as usual - we need immediate support for the Ukranian people" Fair play. |
With respect, it's only fair play if action results from it, or if your MP realises that he is a member of the nasty party and resigns from it, or at least starts voting with his conscience, not the Whip. If he continues to be lobby fodder for Patel's policies, whilst claiming to constituents that he cares, then he is just another self-serving, hypocritical Cunservative. |  | |  |
Incredible how Poland... on 11:13 - Mar 9 with 2233 views | Guthrum |
Incredible how Poland... on 10:07 - Mar 9 by Lord_Lucan | The reason why The Poles have taken so many is because they are next door, it is also clear that displaced Ukrainians have more in common in many ways with the likes of the Poles than the British. The same will apply to countries such as Hungary, Solvakia, Romania etc. Also they would want, I imagine, to be closer to their home should they be able to go back. If for example the people of Scotland or Wales were on the run then I would expect we would take the brunt and the likes of Poland would take a lot less. that's the grown up part of the argument anyway. Hooever - It is pretty shameful the way Pritti Patel has handled this and we should be here with open arms and a cup of tea to anyone who wants to come, no question! Where are all these refugees actually living once they have moved country? I mean, are they in makeshift camps with tents?? Wherefor example are Poland putting 1m people - and where would we? Is opening up the unused Covid Nightingale hospitals an idea? |
Tho it is not all friendly between the two. Historically, the Poles have fought and occupied what is now Ukrainian land. Ukrainians siding with the nazis massacred Poles during World War II and a large chunk of what is now western Ukraine was taken from Poland in 1945. So the Poles have acted partly in despite of fairly recent grievences. |  |
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Incredible how Poland... on 11:20 - Mar 9 with 2219 views | Lord_Lucan |
Incredible how Poland... on 11:13 - Mar 9 by Guthrum | Tho it is not all friendly between the two. Historically, the Poles have fought and occupied what is now Ukrainian land. Ukrainians siding with the nazis massacred Poles during World War II and a large chunk of what is now western Ukraine was taken from Poland in 1945. So the Poles have acted partly in despite of fairly recent grievences. |
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