Offer made for Scott Twine.... 14:29 - Jun 15 with 6507 views | Kieran_Knows | |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:29 - Jun 15 with 5014 views | J2BLUE | Hull would be a pretty uninspiring move for him really. I would imagine he could do better in the Championship than them. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:30 - Jun 15 with 4990 views | Weekender | Do they have new owners now? |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:31 - Jun 15 with 4979 views | Mullet |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:29 - Jun 15 by J2BLUE | Hull would be a pretty uninspiring move for him really. I would imagine he could do better in the Championship than them. |
Anyone in the Champ bar maybe the newly promoted teams will be a bigger move than us. Can't imagine he'd consider us after last season. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:31 - Jun 15 with 4971 views | portmanking | As said yesterday, ridiculous to even debate the prospect of Twine joining Town. Much like Crooks and Town last season. We're not shopping in that ballpark yet, largely due to league status rather than financial muscle. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:36 - Jun 15 with 4889 views | itfcsuth | New owners injecting cash and backing their manager - would imagine Hull have aspirations of being at top half of the Championship again. Anyone in that bracket will be a bigger attraction than a L1 side. Can't compete with that figure in this League - and rightfully so. Think it could be early stage of multiple bids coming in for him in Championship. [Post edited 15 Jun 2022 14:55]
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:55 - Jun 15 with 4660 views | itfcjoe |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:36 - Jun 15 by itfcsuth | New owners injecting cash and backing their manager - would imagine Hull have aspirations of being at top half of the Championship again. Anyone in that bracket will be a bigger attraction than a L1 side. Can't compete with that figure in this League - and rightfully so. Think it could be early stage of multiple bids coming in for him in Championship. [Post edited 15 Jun 2022 14:55]
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We can compete, as could prob match their wages with a big increase on promotion so a potentially better package - personally wouldn't want to but it an be done. I don't think that there will be that much Champ interest, jst don't see the top end clubs buying him and most outside top 8 don't have a pot to p155 in |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:59 - Jun 15 with 4575 views | OriginalMarkyP |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:55 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can compete, as could prob match their wages with a big increase on promotion so a potentially better package - personally wouldn't want to but it an be done. I don't think that there will be that much Champ interest, jst don't see the top end clubs buying him and most outside top 8 don't have a pot to p155 in |
You can type piss here. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:03 - Jun 15 with 4522 views | Steve_M |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:55 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can compete, as could prob match their wages with a big increase on promotion so a potentially better package - personally wouldn't want to but it an be done. I don't think that there will be that much Champ interest, jst don't see the top end clubs buying him and most outside top 8 don't have a pot to p155 in |
I'm still not convinced on his all-round game. Excellent striker of a dead ball but for a forward that might not always be enough. Unless Hull tempt anyone else out there's a good chance he'll go there I would think. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:11 - Jun 15 with 4389 views | itfcsuth |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:55 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can compete, as could prob match their wages with a big increase on promotion so a potentially better package - personally wouldn't want to but it an be done. I don't think that there will be that much Champ interest, jst don't see the top end clubs buying him and most outside top 8 don't have a pot to p155 in |
You can't compete with £3M on a transfer fee when you are League 1 club. Sides in the Championship will offer big increase in promotion clauses should they be promoted to the PL, so that's slightly irrelevant. A large bulk of Championship clubs throughout the league will of course be showing interest in a 22 year old who has just delivered 20 goals and 13 assists, it would be crazy to think otherwise. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:29 - Jun 15 with 4244 views | portmanking |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:03 - Jun 15 by Steve_M | I'm still not convinced on his all-round game. Excellent striker of a dead ball but for a forward that might not always be enough. Unless Hull tempt anyone else out there's a good chance he'll go there I would think. |
20 goals and 13 assists in a single season suggest his all-round game is probably good enough for Ipswich Town. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:30 - Jun 15 with 4242 views | BonneNIL |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:55 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can compete, as could prob match their wages with a big increase on promotion so a potentially better package - personally wouldn't want to but it an be done. I don't think that there will be that much Champ interest, jst don't see the top end clubs buying him and most outside top 8 don't have a pot to p155 in |
League One clubs have wage restrictions, you get two free hits after relegation, and once you blow that your spending is restricted by the rules, which was the case last season. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:32 - Jun 15 with 4222 views | STYG |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:30 - Jun 15 by BonneNIL | League One clubs have wage restrictions, you get two free hits after relegation, and once you blow that your spending is restricted by the rules, which was the case last season. |
But the owners get to pump money in to cover that though. It's not the same as the Championship FFP. We just have to show we actually have the money, so the owners can pump in what they want at this level as long as we can show we have the money and are not spending what we don't have. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:33 - Jun 15 with 4212 views | SomethingBlue | I would take Celina ahead of Twine, he's a significantly better all-round player. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:34 - Jun 15 with 4200 views | ElderGrizzly |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 14:31 - Jun 15 by Mullet | Anyone in the Champ bar maybe the newly promoted teams will be a bigger move than us. Can't imagine he'd consider us after last season. |
And certainly not after what happened with Fraser. Must be a big doubt for someone who played with him. But agree, he will be Top-12 Championship level next season. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:37 - Jun 15 with 4178 views | STYG |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:34 - Jun 15 by ElderGrizzly | And certainly not after what happened with Fraser. Must be a big doubt for someone who played with him. But agree, he will be Top-12 Championship level next season. |
The difference between Fraser and Twine for me is vast. Twine looks like a player that will go to the top. Fraser was a slow player with an eye for a pass that would look very good at this level in a team that played to his strengths, which we never did. I never looked at Fraser before we signed him and thought destined for the top of the Championship let alone the top. Twine to me gives me the same vibes Bowen did at Hull. Was obviously he'd end up in the Premier League but never thought he'd be in the England side a year or two later. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:39 - Jun 15 with 4126 views | itfcjoe |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:11 - Jun 15 by itfcsuth | You can't compete with £3M on a transfer fee when you are League 1 club. Sides in the Championship will offer big increase in promotion clauses should they be promoted to the PL, so that's slightly irrelevant. A large bulk of Championship clubs throughout the league will of course be showing interest in a 22 year old who has just delivered 20 goals and 13 assists, it would be crazy to think otherwise. |
We can, we've got the money. And a promotion pay rise in an Ipswich L1 contract to come in in the Championship is worth much more than a Hull one to come in in the PL. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:40 - Jun 15 with 4116 views | ElderGrizzly |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:37 - Jun 15 by STYG | The difference between Fraser and Twine for me is vast. Twine looks like a player that will go to the top. Fraser was a slow player with an eye for a pass that would look very good at this level in a team that played to his strengths, which we never did. I never looked at Fraser before we signed him and thought destined for the top of the Championship let alone the top. Twine to me gives me the same vibes Bowen did at Hull. Was obviously he'd end up in the Premier League but never thought he'd be in the England side a year or two later. |
Agree there is a quality gap, but Fraser's stats before he moved here were superb for L1. And obviously a 6 year age gap, so there is more potential there for Twine. The good thing in all this is a number of teams, who I assume will be our competition, are being weakened |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:40 - Jun 15 with 4103 views | wkj |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:39 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can, we've got the money. And a promotion pay rise in an Ipswich L1 contract to come in in the Championship is worth much more than a Hull one to come in in the PL. |
We can't discount the prospect of a deal coming with a 1 season loan back |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:41 - Jun 15 with 4100 views | ElderGrizzly |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:39 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can, we've got the money. And a promotion pay rise in an Ipswich L1 contract to come in in the Championship is worth much more than a Hull one to come in in the PL. |
We can, but would we want to with the potential rumblings it might cause with the more senior players in our ranks already? £3m and significant wages on one player doesn't seem a very Ipswich thing to do under Ashton. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:43 - Jun 15 with 4052 views | wkj |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:41 - Jun 15 by ElderGrizzly | We can, but would we want to with the potential rumblings it might cause with the more senior players in our ranks already? £3m and significant wages on one player doesn't seem a very Ipswich thing to do under Ashton. |
In theory, we could do a lot - depending on how much investment GC20 have in mind for playing staff. Transfer fees do not count as turnover in L1 and L2 and Ownerloans are also not included in the turnover calculation. Wages is the only real scrutiny it seems with a requirement for the wage budget to be under 60% of turnover. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:45 - Jun 15 with 4030 views | itfcsuth |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:39 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe | We can, we've got the money. And a promotion pay rise in an Ipswich L1 contract to come in in the Championship is worth much more than a Hull one to come in in the PL. |
When you don't generate the income that a Championship side does, then you can't spend as much on outgoings. You can't spend £3M+ on a player when you operating in League 1. It's fantasy football manager stuff. There has to be a level of realism, and when you are a League 1 side, you can't compete with sides higher up the pyramid spending £3M on players. |  | |  |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:45 - Jun 15 with 4025 views | itfcjoe |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:41 - Jun 15 by ElderGrizzly | We can, but would we want to with the potential rumblings it might cause with the more senior players in our ranks already? £3m and significant wages on one player doesn't seem a very Ipswich thing to do under Ashton. |
Re the last line - Ashton would love a big showcase signing |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:46 - Jun 15 with 4010 views | wkj |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:45 - Jun 15 by itfcsuth | When you don't generate the income that a Championship side does, then you can't spend as much on outgoings. You can't spend £3M+ on a player when you operating in League 1. It's fantasy football manager stuff. There has to be a level of realism, and when you are a League 1 side, you can't compete with sides higher up the pyramid spending £3M on players. |
Transfer fees are not included in L1/L2 FFFP calculations. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:47 - Jun 15 with 4000 views | Kieran_Knows |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:41 - Jun 15 by ElderGrizzly | We can, but would we want to with the potential rumblings it might cause with the more senior players in our ranks already? £3m and significant wages on one player doesn't seem a very Ipswich thing to do under Ashton. |
He signed Massengo for Bristol City from Monaco for £7m, so I suspect he'd be happy to splash the cash here if the deal/player was right. |  |
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Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:51 - Jun 15 with 3930 views | Ely_Blue |
Offer made for Scott Twine.... on 15:37 - Jun 15 by STYG | The difference between Fraser and Twine for me is vast. Twine looks like a player that will go to the top. Fraser was a slow player with an eye for a pass that would look very good at this level in a team that played to his strengths, which we never did. I never looked at Fraser before we signed him and thought destined for the top of the Championship let alone the top. Twine to me gives me the same vibes Bowen did at Hull. Was obviously he'd end up in the Premier League but never thought he'd be in the England side a year or two later. |
Bowen should be nowhere near the England team, the last 4 games proved that |  |
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