| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? 11:25 - Sep 28 with 1550 views | blueasfook |
By that, I mean what mechanisms are in place that we could call a GE based on the current government being totally incompetent |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:27 - Sep 28 with 1520 views | homer_123 |
we've had an incompetent government for a while now..... |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:28 - Sep 28 with 1512 views | blueasfook |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:27 - Sep 28 by homer_123 |
we've had an incompetent government for a while now..... |
Don't disagree but the current "leadership" is plumbing whole new depths. We are a global laughing stock. | |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:36 - Sep 28 with 1469 views | pointofblue |
All Tory MPs being recalled by their constituents? |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:36 - Sep 28 with 1469 views | Swansea_Blue |
I don't think there are any formal mechanisms. Anarchy is probably the only option. People can't be arsed with that though coz they'll miss Love Island. |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:24 - Sep 28 with 1385 views | blueislander |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:36 - Sep 28 by Swansea_Blue |
I don't think there are any formal mechanisms. Anarchy is probably the only option. People can't be arsed with that though coz they'll miss Love Island. |
Vote of no confidence by Tory MPs . The majority of them wanted Sunak anyway. Not sure, but I don’t think Truss would have to resign, but it would really make her position untenable. Doubt whether enough Tory MPs would have the balls to do it though. If Labour called for a no confidence vote , for it to succeed a large number of Tories would have to vote for it. I can’t see that happening either. | | | |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:30 - Sep 28 with 1373 views | SomethingBlue |
Sadly there aren't really any ways to. People could protest en masse, as they should (and here is a way to begin https://wesayenough.co.uk/oct1/) but our population in general is too complacent, gullible and poorly educated to respond coherently to what is happening to them. Maybe I'll be proved wrong, I'd love to be. [Post edited 28 Sep 2022 12:33]
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:35 - Sep 28 with 1326 views | lowhouseblue |
i'm afraid it comes down to tory mps developing a sense of shame or a military coup. |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:49 - Sep 28 with 1274 views | WeWereZombies |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:24 - Sep 28 by blueislander |
Vote of no confidence by Tory MPs . The majority of them wanted Sunak anyway. Not sure, but I don’t think Truss would have to resign, but it would really make her position untenable. Doubt whether enough Tory MPs would have the balls to do it though. If Labour called for a no confidence vote , for it to succeed a large number of Tories would have to vote for it. I can’t see that happening either. |
If enough Conservative MPs could be persuaded to cross the floor (Starmer could entice some with the promise of positions in a new Government) or, far less likely, if those MPs could come to an arrangement with their constituency Association allowing them to sit as an independent:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02537/
https://www.wealdenconservatives.com/sites/www.wealdenconservatives.com/files/20
(This raised a smile when I glanced through the second link - 'Your Association is about to start one of the most important and exciting activities in its calendar - choosing the candidate who will fight for the Conservative cause in your constituency at the next General Election') |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:55 - Sep 28 with 1253 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:24 - Sep 28 by blueislander |
Vote of no confidence by Tory MPs . The majority of them wanted Sunak anyway. Not sure, but I don’t think Truss would have to resign, but it would really make her position untenable. Doubt whether enough Tory MPs would have the balls to do it though. If Labour called for a no confidence vote , for it to succeed a large number of Tories would have to vote for it. I can’t see that happening either. |
They have the option to oust the PM, but not force a GE either. At least that’s my understanding of it. Tories changed the law in 2019 denying Parliament the opportunity to call a GE. Or I may have got that wrong, maybe it’s either the PM or Parliament who can call a GE. The public can’t, although I suppose we can pressure our MPs (or revolt violently!).
There’s a lot of babble from political journalists on Twitter that Truss and Sunak may actually be close to being forced out. Not sure how true that it mind. | |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:57 - Sep 28 with 1243 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
We could ask Putin to invade. That would please both those who think he’s a a strong leader and those that think NATO have been mean to him? | | | |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:59 - Sep 28 with 1237 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Mass public disorder/disobedience/rent strikes/non payment of bills... |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:04 - Sep 28 with 1218 views | WeWereZombies |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:57 - Sep 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
We could ask Putin to invade. That would please both those who think he’s a a strong leader and those that think NATO have been mean to him? |
That would upset the Americans though.
We could ask Biden to invade us, bound to upset somebody though.
Who could we get to invade us and not cause a fuss ? The Channel Islands, no that would upset France. The Isle of Man ? Lundy ? | |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:18 - Sep 28 with 1190 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:04 - Sep 28 by WeWereZombies |
That would upset the Americans though.
We could ask Biden to invade us, bound to upset somebody though.
Who could we get to invade us and not cause a fuss ? The Channel Islands, no that would upset France. The Isle of Man ? Lundy ? |
Or we could go the other way and perhaps stake a claim to the Faroe Islands.
Every time Argentina go cap in hand to the IMF they start agitating about the Falklands as a “look over there”. Definitely the kind of thing this govt would do. | | | |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:22 - Sep 28 with 1174 views | WeWereZombies |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:18 - Sep 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Or we could go the other way and perhaps stake a claim to the Faroe Islands.
Every time Argentina go cap in hand to the IMF they start agitating about the Falklands as a “look over there”. Definitely the kind of thing this govt would do. |
Norway have their Sovereign Debt Fund, if we could sneak the population of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland over there whilst they weren't looking then all of our problems would go away.
Mind you, we would then have a border with Russia... | |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:24 - Sep 28 with 1165 views | blueasfook |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:24 - Sep 28 by blueislander |
Vote of no confidence by Tory MPs . The majority of them wanted Sunak anyway. Not sure, but I don’t think Truss would have to resign, but it would really make her position untenable. Doubt whether enough Tory MPs would have the balls to do it though. If Labour called for a no confidence vote , for it to succeed a large number of Tories would have to vote for it. I can’t see that happening either. |
I think I read yesterday that votes of no confidence in her have been submitted already. Hopefully be gone by Christmas. But that's not the real solution. We need the Tories out, full stop. | |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:24 - Sep 28 with 1163 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
It would require Truss to develop self-awareness. It is not going to happen |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:48 - Sep 28 with 1114 views | catch74 |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:28 - Sep 28 by blueasfook |
Don't disagree but the current "leadership" is plumbing whole new depths. We are a global laughing stock. |
I don’t think they are, I think it’s been pretty consistent. Scarily. |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:53 - Sep 28 with 1090 views | giant_stow |
Sunak should be installed as caretaker PM, for the period it takes to conduct a GE. not what you asked - but this is the only way out, I reckon. They better not dare try another internal leadership election... |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 15:08 - Sep 28 with 955 views | Churchman |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:53 - Sep 28 by giant_stow |
Sunak should be installed as caretaker PM, for the period it takes to conduct a GE. not what you asked - but this is the only way out, I reckon. They better not dare try another internal leadership election... |
Agree with this. But these idiots will ignore, blame, deflect and carry on filling their boots while they can. |  | | |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 15:13 - Sep 28 with 939 views | BlueNomad |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 12:49 - Sep 28 by WeWereZombies |
If enough Conservative MPs could be persuaded to cross the floor (Starmer could entice some with the promise of positions in a new Government) or, far less likely, if those MPs could come to an arrangement with their constituency Association allowing them to sit as an independent:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02537/
https://www.wealdenconservatives.com/sites/www.wealdenconservatives.com/files/20
(This raised a smile when I glanced through the second link - 'Your Association is about to start one of the most important and exciting activities in its calendar - choosing the candidate who will fight for the Conservative cause in your constituency at the next General Election') |
Maybe Anderson will cross the floor.................again. He is a monster without conscience - even when measured against other Tories. |  | | |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 16:39 - Sep 28 with 860 views | factual_blue |
For £5m the tories will call an election, and give you a peerage. |  |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 17:11 - Sep 28 with 809 views | ElephantintheRoom |
None. Our electoral system guarantees a minority government every time. So the majority of voters always get the polar opposite of what they voted for. | |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 17:34 - Sep 28 with 779 views | eireblue |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 13:04 - Sep 28 by WeWereZombies |
That would upset the Americans though.
We could ask Biden to invade us, bound to upset somebody though.
Who could we get to invade us and not cause a fuss ? The Channel Islands, no that would upset France. The Isle of Man ? Lundy ? |
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| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 18:13 - Sep 28 with 744 views | ronnyd |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 11:36 - Sep 28 by Swansea_Blue |
I don't think there are any formal mechanisms. Anarchy is probably the only option. People can't be arsed with that though coz they'll miss Love Island. |
Or, if you listen to the BBC, the only gigs in town are Strictly or Eurovision. | | | |
| What would it take to call a GE based on public lack of faith in govt? on 20:21 - Sep 28 with 686 views | Churchman |
So their solution is to double down on their own catastrophic failure.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63056188
Cut public spending. Make the deserving poor pay. Make the unproductive useless public sector pay. Police, the services, NHS, firemen, DWP, environment (b’gger sewage washing up - only the deserving poor go to stinky beaches in U.K.), all of these useless mouths pay ….. to pay more money to mega rich people who don’t need it. Trickle drown economics. You’ll get a crumb if you are lucky but you’ll be happy about it.
Yep, makes perfect sense to me - assuming you are in a rubber room with a wrap around jacket. These cretins need driving out. | | | |
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